Mystery Foto #51 Solved: The Garden City Lodge on the move on March 11, 1989
Al Velocci challenged you to identify this weekend's Mystery Foto.
Mystery Foto questions
- Identify the Motor Parkway Lodge
Garden City Lodge
- What was the date of the Mystery Foto?
Previous posts indicate the Mystery Foto was taken on March 13, 1989 or March 19,989. However, the below March 12, 1898 Newsday article indicates that Moving Day was March 11, 1989.
- Where was the lodge headed?
Heading to its current location on 230 7th Street in Garden City.
- Identify the exact location of the photo and orientation of the photographer.
On Old Country Road in front of the Eagle Rock Fairhaven Apartments in Mineola. The photographer was looking west.
- What is ironic about this location?
The Mystery Foto was taken on the exact location where the Old Country Road Motor Parkway bridge was located.
Comments (18)
Congrats to Mike Appice, Joe Oesterle, Greg O., Al Prete, Ron Ridolph, Chris Lindsley, George Philippides, Lee Chambers, Art Kleiner, Sam Berliner III, John Ulrich, Steve Lucas, March Schaier, John Cunningham and Frank Femenias for identifying the Garden City Lodge.
Kudos to Mike Appice, Greg O. Ron Ridolph, Roy Warner, George Philippides, Lee Chambers, Art Kleiner,Sam Berliner III, John Ulrich, Steve Lucas and Frank Femenias for recognizing the Mystery Foto location was on the Motor Parkway righ-of-way.
Enjoy,
Howard
Close-Ups
The Motor Parkway as seen going under the Old Country Road Motor Parkway Bridge.
Newsday, March 12, 1989
Moving Day (Photos courtesy of John Ellis Kordes)
In front of its current location at 230 Seventh Street, Garden City.
Garden City Lodge
The original 1911 design of the Garden City Lodge by John Russell Pope did not include the porte-cochere. Following objections by the general manager Alfred Kienzle, the outside cover was added to the design.
View looking south.
View looking east
Christian Ernst and his daughter Emma (circa 1929)
Circa 1931. Courtesy of Gordon Bainbridge, the grandson of Motor Parkway lodge keepers Christian and Elizabeth Ernst.
Circa 1970
Circa 1981. Courtesy of Ron Ridolph.
in 1987, new owners of the property planned to tear down the toll lodge for the construction of a new home.
The Garden City Chamber of Commerce sprung into action in 1987 and began a campaign to save the toll lodge and move it to a new location in Garden City. They issued this brochure to solicit funds for the project. With the donation of the lodge by the Taylor Warner Real Estate and community support, the toll lodge was saved by the Chamber of Commerce and the Village of Garden City.
Current View
The restored Garden City Lodge as it looks today. The Garden City Chamber of Commerce maintains a small museum of parkway images and related memorabilia in the building's basement.
Alco Black Beast paying the toll in 2010.
Comments
I think it’s the Garden City lodge located on Clinton Rd.It was moved 3/19/1989 to its new location on 7th street in Garden City. The lodge is headed west pass the Fairhaven Apartments on Old County Rd. It ironically crosses path of the Motor Parkway and Old County Rd in Mineola now called Vanderbilt Drive N.
Garden City Lodge. If I remember, it was about March 1989.
-Identify the Motor Parkway Lodge
Garden City Lodge
-What was the date of the Mystery Foto?
March 19, 1989
-Where was the lodge headed?
It’s new home as the Garden City Chamber of Commerce at 230 7th St.
-Identify the exact location of the photo and orientation of the photographer.
Standing on the corner of Old Country Road and Laurel Street across from the Eagle Rock apartments looking west down OCR.
-What is ironic about this location?
A LIMP lodge traveling down Old Country Road which was labeled as the route to the grandstands for the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race map, and just about the exact spot where the Old Country Road LIMP bridge are both pretty ironic!
Garden City Lodge. Mar. 13, 1989. The lodge was being relocated from its original location off Clinton Road to its new location at 230 Seventh Street, where it is the headquarters of the Garden City Chamber of Commerce.
Looks like Franklin Avenue, because it’s a busy, multilane, undivided highway. If the lodge took the shortest route, the photographer is facing south.
Irony of the location? No clue.
LIMP Garden City lodge being moved and relocated to new site at 230 7th Street in
Garden City and will be office and headquarters of the Chamber of Commerce. Photo
is westerly on Old Country Road at the location of the original parkway site and
heading to South on Franklin Avenue to complete the move.
LIMP Garden City Lodge being moved in 1989 to new site at 230 7th Street and will
be office and headquarters of the Chamber of Commerce. Photo is westerly on Old
Country Road where the LIMP crossed and on to Franklin Avenue to the new location
to complete the move.
This is the Garden City Toll Lodge, being moved in 1977 from its original location on Huntington Road in GC (on the LIMP ROW) to its current location on Seventh Street, GC. The photos are from the north heading south
I don’t know what lodge it is. However, it was being transported westbound on Old Country Rd. to 7th St. in Garden City just east of Franklin Ave where, I think, it was intended to be used as an exhibit. From what I remember, the move occurred in the mid-‘80s. What I think is ironic about the location of the photo is that it is where the Motor Parkway’s north/south roadway passed either over or under what was then a narrow Old Country Rd.
Garden City Motor Parkway lodge being moved from Clinton road /Vanderbilt court location on March 13 1989.
Headed to 230 7th street Garden City( GC Chamber of commerce).
Location is intersection of Old Country road and Vanderbilt Drive N in Mineola-( or in between Pell Terrace and Russell road inGarden City )facing west .
Irony is this photo was snapped as lodge crossed site of old motor parkway as it crossed under old country road….( OCR bridge)
You can still find a few old concrete fence posts off Vanderbilt drive. I grew up 2 blocks from there.
Garden City lodge being moved from its Clinton Road location to Seventh Street on 03/19/89. It is being moved along Old Country Road very close to where the LIMP passed underneath it.
Garden City Lodge
March 19, 1989
New home on Seventh Street in Garden City
Looking west on Old Country Road in front of the Fairhaven/Eagle Rock Apartments
The photo was taken where the Motor Parkway crossed Old Country Road (shown on the attached as Vanderbilt Dr. N. (north of Old Country Road and Motor Parkway south of OCR).
Give-away! 19 Mar 1989 move of the Garden City lodge from Vanderbilt Court off Clinton Road to the southeast corner of 7th Street. We’re looking west on Old Country Road as the lodge crosses the LIMP RoW at the Eagle Rock apts. (right). Details on Blog for 05 Jun 2010, “The Day the Garden City Lodge Moved- March 19, 1989”. Not noted is the wild detour up Clinton to OCR and then west and down Franklin to 7th; this was for clearances. Sam, III
Sometimes it pays to have your Arcadia Press 2008 photo history book.
It’s 1989 on Old Country Rd looking west. The Garden City Lodge structure is adjacent to The Fairview Apt Complex past The Country Glen Shopping Center.
The coincidence is just where the LIMP crossed under OCR at the GC /Mineola border. The lodge would then turn South on Franklin Ave down its new home on Seventh Street in front of the municipal parking lot. Not sure of the navigation near the resting place ,but 7th St may have been wide enough to maneuver down to its new home. Building was lowered, renovated and remains in place today. I assume some parking spaces were given up from its new home. A gift from the Village of Garden City
The lodge was first moved North on Clinton/Glen cove Rd and made the turn left heading West prior to the photo. It should be noted that the OCR /Clinton Rd intersection is the busiest intersection crossroad in all Of Nassau County. Extra Turn lanes were added post 1989 to ease & facilitate traffic flow adjacent to the Roosevelt Field Mall. Who knew that 2020 and The COVID VIRUSwould reduce the need for mall or any other shopping so much.
Must have been a Sunday morning to allow such a road /intersection closing.
Trivia Question : What bank had a Free standing building on the NW corner of OCR/Clinton Rd prior to the construction of the original Country Glen Center?
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Hello Al,
Thanks for the “softball” question this week. According to Howard’s “favorite co-author” in his Toll Lodge book, that’s the Garden City lodge heading westbound on Old Country Road on the Mineola - Carle Place border. The photo was taken on the “fine, crisp Saturday morning” of March 11, 1989 as the lodge was headed to its new location on 7th. Street in Garden City. Ironically, this location in front of the Eagle Rock Apartments was where the LIMP once passed under Old Country Road.
Congratulations on your well deserved award. I love this website.!!
Looked up on Search, a Blog, in June 5 2010, The Day the Garden City Lodge Moved
-March 19, 1989, with some photo’s but with more photo’s on this Mystery Fri. Foto #51. Not sure of location or orientations of new photo’s.
Garden City Lodge. March 13, 1989. Headed to 7th street where it currently is located as the Garden City Chamber of Commerce. Photo is Franklin Ave looking south.
March 19, 1989
Motor Parkway’s Garden City Lodge on the way towards its new location at the Garden City Chamber of Commerce on 7th Street. It’s already traveled 1 mile of its 3 mile journey. Ironic, photo’s location is intersection of Old Country Rd and Laurel Dr. looking WNW, just 325 feet west of the former Motor Parkway/Old Country Road underpass, the lodge’s last encounter with its host parkway, both that will never be seen together again.
LILCO electricians can be seen removing wires ahead of the move.
Squeezing the lodge out of narrow Vanderbilt Court must have been a major feat all its own. It’s unknown why this 3 mile route from Vanderbilt Ct. to 7th Street was preferred over the shorter 1.3 mile route by simply utilizing Stewart Ave. to 7th Street.
Grateful the lodge was spared and preserved for future generations to benefit from.
Fantastic work Garden City, 1989!
I remember that day.
I thought it was sad they were moving it.
But now everyone can enjoy it, where it is .
While it’s a little west of where the LIMP ROW was, it’s close enough. I specifically mentioned Laurel St since the windows of the apartment building matched only the windows on the very last western apartment building.
Ditto, Greg. Wishing a Happy Holidays to all! I’m looking forward to 2021….
These pictures were from same spot.
First is a picture looking in to Garden city, between Russel road and Pell Terrace, where Motor parkway ran
Second is a picture of a sign that had been at that same place, probably across the street on Mineola side
Hey John Ulrich, be sure to share the answer to your trivia question.
Heres one, what bank stood at the south west corner of OCR and Clinton in the 1960s?
George, the mystery photo also shows an Eagle Rock Fair Haven Apartment building on the north side (right side of photo) of Old Country Road (photos below). This building on Laurel Drive is the ONLY building that matches the mystery photo within the Eagle Rock Fair Haven Apartments complex on Laurel Dr.
The photo with the boy scout and sign was taken just 325 feet east of the mystery photo. Very close to the mystery photo!!
I don’t know the bank that occupied the SW corner of OCR and Clinton in the ‘60s. I was born in 1962, and much history occurred in this tiny corner of early Long Island.
George - more info about the marker you put up from my website:
https://www.freewebs.com/limparkway/historical-markers
The next marker does not exist anymore. It was placed at the intersection of the Motor Parkway and Old Country Road June 6, 1959, a few blocks west of Roosevelt Field. The marker wad dedicated by Town of Oyster Bay Supervisor, John Burns, and 11 members of the Boy Scouts of America Explorer Post 429 who included it as part of their hike of the Motor Parkway in Nassau County. The hike was taken in connection with the post’s ambition to earn the Historic Trails Award, a major scouting award which until that time had never been won in Nassau County. Unfortunately the marker was taken down during the widening of Old Country Road sometime later. Where the marker is now is anyone’s guess.
A clarification of the name Eagle Rock Fair Haven Apartment, It was known as Fairhaven Garden Apartment back in the ‘70s (I had lived in the Jericho Turnpike complex then) but was change at some point (new ownership?) to just Eagle Rock Apartments now.
Any Boy Scouts out there? Here is the press release relating to the above marker at the intersection of the Motor Parkway and Old Country Road. At one point I researched the scouts that were mentioned but didn’t come with anything. With additional on-line resources at hand, I might try again.
No end to the detail we turn up, eh? Re Mark’s comment, the “other” Eagle Rock Apts., at Carle Place, are the old Fairhaven complex there, just south of the Jericho Pike on Fairhaven Road, directly across Rudolph Drive (the LIMP RoW) from 284 Rudolf Road, the extant Jericho Toll Lodge (the spellings are deliberate). I’ve always been bemused by the two Fairhavens sitting alongside the RoW. Sam, III