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Mar 30 2020 David Stephan 5:18 PM

To Al Prete’s comment-
The North Hempstead Tpke that is NY25A is unrelated to the NHT of this story.  “Northern Blvd” has had many names, but by 1900, the Queens stretch was mostly known as Broadway, with the name changing to NHT at the Nassau border. That one part you referenced kept this old name.

The NHT in this post extended from the Strongs Causeway area to Queens Road (Hollis Ct. Blvd.) This NHT extended a road, known variously as Ireland/Ireland Mill/Mill Road, that had ended at/near Fresh Meadow Lane to Queens Road (Hollis Ct. Blvd). This NHT was intended to bypass the late 19th century congestion in Flushing on roads that form the modern Northern Blvd. Ironically, that was Horace Harding’s intent, too, in proposing Nassau Blvd., which made this NHT obsolete for long-distance travellers.

The Fresh Meadows development destroyed much of the eastern portion of NHT, but some roadbed, including its eastern terminus still exists. That roadbed is in the woods west of the Clearview Expwy, so, Al there’s still a trace left!

Both roads shared the name NHT, which referred to the long-distance destination the Town of North Hempstead, as I suspect Howard or Al V. have explained elsewhere.

The isolated segment of Hollis Ct. Blvd, between Clearview/73rd and the GCP, was renamed Hollis Hills Terrace to avoid confusion for visitors looking for addresses along this stretch of road in the pre-Google Maps era.  (Some people would travel down Hollis Ct. Blvd from the north, only to see it “end” at LIE before encountering the addresses they sought.)

From Motor Parkway Survey Bookmap C: The Western Terminus in Fresh Meadows, Queens

Mar 30 2020 S. Berliner, III 4:28 PM

Don’t forget, folks, that the Wheeler Road and Ronk. exits led south to WKV (Sr.)‘s Idle Hour and Frederick Bourne’s Indian Neck Hall, among many other South Shore mansions.  There’s still a Vanderbilt Wharf Marina in Oakdale, just east of the Grand Canal.  Al V. - what happened to the land purchased SOUTH and EAST of Ronk. (again - please)?  Sam, III

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Maps (Part III)

Mar 30 2020 S. Berliner, III 3:58 PM

JF and Art, don’t overlook aviation pioneer George C. Dade, founder off the Cradle of Aviation Museum - see my <http://sbiii.com/aviation.html#dade>.  George Dade’s father and uncle, and later George and his brother, owned the northwest corner of Clinton Street and Old Country Road, diagonally across from Curtiss/Roosevelt Field; the Motor Parkway formed the western boundary of their property.  Coincidentally, I worked in the basement of the Dade office building there on OCR (long gone now) ca. 1957 - see 16 Jul 2018 Update #3: Mystery Foto #28.  JF - please contact me at sbiii at sbiii dot com.  Sam, III

From Kleiner's Korner: The Motor Parkway in Advertising Part II

Mar 30 2020 Brian D McCarthy 3:38 PM

*ID seaplane & owner:  Sikorsky S - 43 / NC - 16925 ( NC is Navy Curtiss ). Owned by William K Vanderbilt II.

*Location of Foto:  Maybe Sands Point Seaplane Base NY

*Kudo ?:  Don’t know the full name/type. That’s Howard Hughes in both photos, maybe prior to 1946 ( his near fatal crash ). William Beutenmuller appears around 30 yrs old.

From Mystery Foto #13 Solved: Willie K's Seaplane at Port Washington Marine Base in 1938 & Howard Hughes

Mar 30 2020 Thomas H. Kenny 11:41 AM

Thought you’d like this matchbook cover for your collection. My best friend, Tony Carey, and I walked on the Parkway from Mineola to Searingtown when we were kids. (1952ish). Love your column.

From Kleiner's Korner: The Motor Parkway in Advertising Part II

Mar 30 2020 Al Velocci 11:21 AM

Al, Yes, it was North Hempstead Turnpike previously and it’s eastern terminus was at Hollis Court Blvd. prior to the development of Cunningham Park and the coming of the “Cross Island Boulevard”. Ir was around this time the name was changes to Booth Memorial Avenue.

From Motor Parkway Survey Bookmap C: The Western Terminus in Fresh Meadows, Queens

Mar 30 2020 Al Velocci 9:59 AM

Should have been the “northeast corner of the course”.

From Motor Parkway Survey Bookmap C: The Western Terminus in Fresh Meadows, Queens

Mar 30 2020 Art Kleiner 7:01 AM

Thank you for your comments, JF.  I’m glad you find the material informative.  Yes, lots of aviation history on LI - so glad volunteers like yourself are helping to preserve it.

From Kleiner's Korner: The Motor Parkway in Advertising Part II

Mar 30 2020 Art Kleiner 5:53 AM

Attached is a hand drawn map previously featured in August, 2013 from a Sept. 1907 issue of Automobile Topics.  Interesting caricatures depicting how politics and economic issues impacted the route of the Motor Parkway.  And a rare view of the never to be built route between Lake Ronkonkoma and Riverhead.

http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/anatomy_of_a_1907_cartoon_how_the_motor_parkway_becam_kinky

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Maps (Part III)

Mar 29 2020 Steve Lucas 11:48 PM

Could that be Willie K.‘s Douglas Dolphin “Amphibion” at the Sands Point Seaplane Base on Manhasset Bay? This was the location where the first Trans-Atlantic commercial passenger flight took off on June 28, 1939. It then became Pan-Am’s headquarters during 1939-1940 for regular flights to Europe with the Boeing 314 “Clipper”. It had been Pan-Am’s Executive Airport from 1934 to 1937. Regarding the kudos photo: is that Amelia Earhart standing next to a Sikorsky S-39?

From Mystery Foto #13 Solved: Willie K's Seaplane at Port Washington Marine Base in 1938 & Howard Hughes

Mar 29 2020 Dick Gorman 5:19 PM

Mystery Foto#13… The seaplane is William K. Vanderbilt’s Sikorsky S43, registration # NC16925.
The other photo with the tall guy in the white shirt and hat shows Howard Hughes with his Sikorsky S-39C plane.
Can’t determine the location of the first pic.
Could it be at LaGuardia marine air terminal
or at the Port Washington Marine air terminal???

From Mystery Foto #13 Solved: Willie K's Seaplane at Port Washington Marine Base in 1938 & Howard Hughes

Mar 29 2020 JF Purcell 4:12 PM

Now that I am approaching 70 in June, I have great appreciation for history, especially for automobiles and old automobile advertising; as well as for airplanes and aviation history.  Which is fortunate, because I work as a volunteer for the Nassau County Photo Archives at Old Bethpage Village. 

Over the last year and a half, I have been archiving photos and documents, which display the history of aviation on Long Island.  I note with interest your collection of aviation by way of advertising cards.  Some of the info conveyed in your current newsletter, add the names of those early aviators who were active in Mineola and the Hempstead Plains.  Thanks for publishing this information, along with the LI Motor Parkway.
JF Purcell
Oceanside, NY
Volunteer, Nassau County Photo Archives

From Kleiner's Korner: The Motor Parkway in Advertising Part II

Mar 29 2020 mark schaier 3:49 PM

The Frank Femenias call outs of the aerial photo of June 24 1938 did not expand after the click on like the other’s photo were able to do? why?
_______________________________

Howard Kroplick

Mark, give it another try.

From Motor Parkway Survey Bookmap C: The Western Terminus in Fresh Meadows, Queens

Mar 29 2020 Al Prete 2:17 PM

Booth Memorial Avenue was formerly known as North Hempstead Turnpike? Interesting. Parts of NY 25A are now known as North Hempstead Turnpike. Today there is no trace of the old North Hempstead Turnpike south and east of Horace Harding Blvd./the LIE.

From Motor Parkway Survey Bookmap C: The Western Terminus in Fresh Meadows, Queens

Mar 29 2020 S. Berliner, III 1:26 PM

Another give-away.  Too big to be Willie’s Douglas Dolphin.  Unmistakeably Howard Hughes special Sikorsky S-43, now restored and at Kermit Weeks’ Fantasy of Flight Museum in Florida (NASM has a JRS-1).  Also unmistakeable is Hughes himself, walking away from an older Sikorsky S-39.  Location ISN’T Eagle’s Nest in Centerport - too flat.  Hangar doesn’t look like Port Wash./Manorhaven/Tom’s Point seaplane base.  North Field (LaGuardia) Marine Air Terminal (Term. A)  didn’t open until 1939.  Pearl Harbor?  Hmm?  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #13 Solved: Willie K's Seaplane at Port Washington Marine Base in 1938 & Howard Hughes

Mar 29 2020 S. Berliner, III 12:51 PM

“Auto Polo”?  OMG!  I’d forgotten all about that.  I saw auto polo played at Cedarhurst Stadium or the Freeport track with late ‘30s cars (junkers) and a huge (6’?) ball, ca. 1948.  How I love these posts!  Keep ‘em comin’, folks.  Sam, III

From Kleiner's Korner: The Motor Parkway in Advertising Part II

Mar 29 2020 S. Berliner, III 12:43 PM

Broken record!  I’ve never found those missing photos showing the RoW extending west to 193rd or so but I clearly remember them showing cars on an extra lane on the south side of Nassau/HH Blvd. between Peck and 193rd/194th.  ???  Sam, III

From Motor Parkway Survey Bookmap C: The Western Terminus in Fresh Meadows, Queens

Mar 29 2020 Al Velocci 12:39 PM

Howard, I’m sure anyone with even just a passing interest in the Motor Parkway appreciates the posting of these maps. Particularly interesting on this one is the terminus planned in 1912.  At the time Black Stump Rd. in this part of Queens,  was the best connection for eastbound automobile traffic. When the decision was made to extend the Parkway westward from Rocky Hill Rd., things had changed.  The plan now was to have the western terminus of the Parkway at the new Nassau Blvd. The problem with taking the Parkway north from the original Black Stump Rd. terminus was the Fresh Meadow Golf Club on the north side of Black Stump Rd. Vanderbilt had Kienzle write the club to inquire about the possibility of taking the Parkway north thru the golf course to reach the proposed Nassau Blvd.  You can guess what the club’s response was. It was at this time the decision was made to take the Parkway northward east of today’s 199th St. The Parkway was fortunate in that there were only two parties to deal with in acquiring the ROW to reach Nassau Blvd. The plan at first was to take the ROW straight north. Then the Parkway discovered it would have to build a bridge over the old but still existing Central Railroad ROW before they could get to Nassau Blvd. To avoid this very expensive situation the Parkway approached the Fresh Meadow Club about the possibility of acquiring a small piece in the northwest corner of the course. This would allow the Parkway to angle the ROW and the North Hempstead Tpke. bridge north westward to Nassau Blvd. without crossing over the Central Railroad ROW. Fresh Meadows agreed to do so but it cost the Parkway dearly, but still much cheaper than building another bridge. The Parkway acquired an acre paying $10,000 for the parcel. The cost to purchase the other properties for the new ROW was $3500 an acre. The Parkway also had to rebuild a green for the golf club which cost the Parkway another $1000 and paint the south side of the North Hempstead Tpke. bridge white and on a regular basis. Again, thank for posting the maps.

From Motor Parkway Survey Bookmap C: The Western Terminus in Fresh Meadows, Queens

Mar 29 2020 Roy Warner 12:15 PM

The hat, the age, the slouch, the plane. It was either Howard Hughs, or a good impersonator. By the way, the plane looks like the forerunner of the PBY used during the War.

From Mystery Foto #13 Solved: Willie K's Seaplane at Port Washington Marine Base in 1938 & Howard Hughes

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