Vanderbilt Cup Races

Howard, thank you! Planning to take my kids to see the exhibit.
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Howard Kroplick

Peter, well worth the trip to historic Newport. This is the closest most people will ever get to see Old 16!

From Old 16 Locomobile on Display at the Audrain Automobile Museum in Newport, Rhode Island

Note that there are 3 photos in each post.  Hard to separate since there’s not a lot of space when they get posted. Perhaps a fix for this can be made.

From Update: Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #11 Bethpage #2

Excellent photo reportage on “Old 16”

From Old 16 Locomobile on Display at the Audrain Automobile Museum in Newport, Rhode Island

Thank you and congratulations on your well deserved retirement.
Hopefully you will continue your Sunday morning blog , really anticipate your Motor Parkway articles.  Respectability, Phil

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Three more in my series of aerials.

From Update: Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #11 Bethpage #2

Guess I’ll chime in to Dave’s inquiry.  Attached are a series of 6 aerials from historicaerials.com (overlaying 1953 and current) going from south to north beginning from where the LIMP crosses Central Ave. to where we can all agree it meanders east into Bethpage State Park. I’ve used arrows to point to the LIMP and have circled where the aerials show it crossing the future SOB (south of Revere Avenue), appearing to be on its east side for just a bit.  After that point it appears to head back west slightly and actually shows up as being in the middle of the SOB south and north roadways (there is a median between the two at this point). 

Just relaying what I’m seeing so others can make their own judgement.  In any case, hope it helps the discussion. 

And to add to the discussion, I’ve added 3 yellow question marks in the first picture where the LIMP crosses Central Avenue which appears to show a roadway leading into Thorne Avenue.  If I didn’t know better, this looks like the LIMP but obviously can’t.  Comments?

From Update: Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #11 Bethpage #2

Congratulations, Howard.  As a local historian myself, I was instantly motivated by your energy when I first met you a few years back.  However, I also understand the importance of balancing history-chasing with family life, and I applaud you for making this tough decision while you are still at the top of your game.  Good luck!

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Hi Howard
Thanks for the info on No.16. As always your very precise.
How long is the exhibit on for?
Thanks.
Raymond

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Howard Kroplick

This exhibit and an amazing display of GM concept cars will run through October,

From Old 16 Locomobile on Display at the Audrain Automobile Museum in Newport, Rhode Island

Happened to have past this location last Friday and noticed the home being l lifted.  Was also featured in a blog back in 2010.

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: Then & Now: A Roslyn Curve on the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

More Pics:

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: Then & Now: A Roslyn Curve on the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

Identify the location and orientation of the photographer:
Corner of Mineola Avenue and Old Northern Blvd, Roslyn (Heights).  Photo is looking east/south. 

What is the current address of the building in the background?
1 Mineola Avenue, building was built in 1888 and was owned in 1906 and at least through 1914 by the Doxsey family. 

What year was this curve a section of the Vanderbilt Cup Race course?:
1906

Reason for the house being raised probably has to do with the damage shown to the lower portion of the building in one of the following pictures. 

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: Then & Now: A Roslyn Curve on the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

Nice sharp photos and everyone in there best attire,,,

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Willie K's "Red Devil" at the 1901 Newport Automobile Races

Mineola Ave & Wallbridge Lane.

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: Then & Now: A Roslyn Curve on the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

I went down that area some 2-3 years earlier, I had notice some of debris, seems more then than it shown now?, has more fencing now? appears to come from the back of the homes up on top, its possible those asphalt chunks came from the digging of the LIMP at 135 during construction? Also I had spotted a body of a blue 1957 Buick Roadmaster convertible minus the front end in that area. Dave, Sam, still there??

From Update: Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #11 Bethpage #2

-Identify the location and orientation of the photographer
House at the corner of Mineola Avenue and Old Northern Boulevard, Roslyn Heights- Looking East at the South East corner

-What is the current address of the building in the background?
1 Mineola Ave, Roslyn

-What year was this curve a section of the Vanderbilt Cup Race course?
1906

Another view included below;

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: Then & Now: A Roslyn Curve on the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

The right of way is in the 1950 aerial right next to the parkway.

From Update: Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #11 Bethpage #2

I live on the west side of Norcross and was under the impression that the LIPA right of way where the pic is taken is slightly west of the actual parkway.  I always thought the LIMP in that section is covered completely by the 135.  Am I wrong?

From Update: Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #11 Bethpage #2

Nancy - here’s a 1915 map ( Historic Map Works ) showing Merritt Ave ( underlined red ) . From what’s seen, I don’t think your grandfather’s lumber yard bordered the Baruch property ( which isn’t seen, but north of here ). Too far south as you questioned.

The RR spur seen looping north towards Main actually continued further north. The spur was utilized by The Wyandanch Brick and Terra Cotta Corp ( their property is shown on the 1941 Hagstrom above, bordering the LIMP on the west ). They were established in the late 1800’s. Been wondering about the relation of the LIMP and the RR spur? Was the spur cut back for the construction of the LIMP? I haven’t seen any records of a LIMP bridge over RR tracks here.

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Dolores B.

Congratulations on your retirement! I’m sure your family will be so happy to have your presence.  However, you’ll be missed by the Town; I don’t know if they can find someone with your energy.

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Deb Correnti

Howard, you will never know the hugely spectacular impact that you have made on so many, many people over your years. I send you a long overdue THANK YOU!

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