Feb 21 2022

Mystery Friday Foto #8 Solved: Weighing a race car prior to the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race in Garden City


Did you solve this weekend's Mystery Foto?

Answers to the Mystery Foto questions:

  • What is happening in the Mystery Foto?

A Vanderbilt Cup Race participant is being weighed  prior to the 1904 race to the weight requirements. The weight limit on cars was 1,000 kilograms or 2,204 pounds.

  • Where was the photo taken?

A scale at the Garden City Coal & Wood Yard located near the Garden City Hotel.

  • What is the approximate date of the Mystery Foto?

Most likely, the Foto was taken in October 1904. The weigh-in took place all day, Friday, October 7, 1904, one day prior to the race. AAA officials Al Riker and Ezra T. Birdsall managed the process and found two cars over the limit, the Simplex of Frank Croker and the Renault of Maurice Bernin. The Renault was easily remedied, but Croker’s crew started drilling holes in the car to shave off weight.

Comments (2):

Congrats and Kudos  to Steve Lucas for solving the Mystery Foto. The 1906  date is a possible answer.

Enjoy,

Howard Kroplick



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Feb 19 2022 Steve Lucas 7:24 PM

Although the only part that’s visible is the steering wheel, a Vanderbilt Cup Racer is being officially weighed prior to the running of the race. For the 1906 race, cars could not weigh more than 2,204 pounds. The photo was taken on the scale at the Garden City Coal & Wood yard. The date is probably October 5, 1906 - the day before race day. After passing the weigh-in, a car had its wheel stamped by an official. (see attached photo)

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Feb 20 2022 frank femenias 8:44 PM

If memory serves, photo was taken in Mineola by the RR tracks? School patrons inspecting a racer? 1906? I’m stumped, ya got me this time!

Feb 22 2022 Art Kleiner 6:16 AM

Nice going, Steve.  Here’s some background info. on the weighing in procedure and several ways the cars were slimmed down.  From “Automobile Topics”, “The New York Sun” and “The Evening World” of October, 1906.

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Feb 22 2022 Art Kleiner 6:20 AM

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Feb 22 2022 frank femenias 6:23 PM

WOW! Amazing articles Art. They answer many questions on preparations before the race date. An early Sept 21 seems more reasonable to allow time for crews to reduce their weight.

Feb 24 2022 Greg O. 8:41 PM

Interesting article Art. When I was researching for the detachable rim post a while back I never came across a mention of a weight detriment from them. It seemed the main concern was the possibly unfair tire change speed during the race, but it appears they were heavy enough to make a considerable difference.

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