Apr 16 2024

Mystery Friday Foto #15 Solved; Fred Rieder at the Jericho Turnpike Highway Bridge in 1954/1955


Did you identify the Jericho Turnpike Motor Parkway bridge?

Identify;

  • The Motor Parkway structure

The Jericho Turnpike highway bridge

  • Location and orientation of the photographer

South of Jericho Turnpike looking North

  • Approximate date. Provide a rationale

1954/1955 as identified by Fred Rieder who is the boy with the bike in the Foto (see his Comment below!)

  • Any other possible Motor Parkway structures near the photo location

The photographer was standing next to the east side of the Mineola Toll Lodge which had been converted to a private residence by that time. The Mineola Lodge replaced the earlier Jericho Turnpike Kiosk structure in 1921.

Comments (21)- A great response!

Congrats to Joseph Oesterle, John Erb, Steve Lucas, Frank Femenias, Eric C Shaffer, Christopher Zarzycki, Roy Warner, Mark Lanese, George Philippides, David Miller, Art Kleiner, Dave K, Alan Wunner, Fred Rieder (who identified himself as the boy in the Foto) and Christopher Lindsley for correctly identifying the Jericho Turnpike Highway Bridge.

Greg O. and Howard Kroplick

Hard to believe but we have identified Fred Rieder and his bike in this Foto.


Other views of the Jericho Tpke Bridge, Jericho Kiosk and Mineola Lodge

1910 construction

May 1910 opening with Kiosk

Kiosk construction 1909

New residential Toll Lodge built in 1921 seen here in 1929

Similar view today. The lodge, now converted into a private home can be seen at the left. The familiar 'A' of the original lodge still seen on the front of the house.

1950 aerial

Lodge circled in red with porte-cochere extending over entrance ramp

A close-up of the Mineola Lodge as seen in 1945 after it had been converted into a private home owned by its last toll-takers, Barbara and James Scheuer.


Then & Now

1954/1955

Current view- Note the utility tower and commercial building.



Comments

Apr 11 2024 Joseph Oesterle 11:51 PM

The LIMP bridge over Jericho Tpke in Mineola.  Looking north, the building we see on the left and the power line are still there today.  From these old pictures it looks like they just buried the bridge.  This picture appears to be about 1955-1960 to me.  The toll house just to the left of the picture is still there.

Apr 12 2024 John Erb 2:00 PM

This is the Jericho Turnpike highway bridge, looking north as Jericho Tpke crosses over the remnants of the LIMP.

Due to the condition of the road, I would say it has ling been abandoned (long after the 1939 closing) and the bicycles and clothes look 1950’s to me.

The toll lodge, or part of it, is thought to now be part of a home a few blocks away.

Apr 13 2024 Steve Lucas 5:09 PM

We are looking north at the Jericho Turnpike highway bridge over the LIMP in Mineola. Since this area was filled in during the widening of Jericho Turnpike in the early 1960’s, this photo was probably taken around 1960. Other nearby LIMP structures that would have existed in 1960 are: the Mineola Lodge (converted to a residence); the LIRR bridge about a half mile south; and possibly the golfway bridge at the Wheatley Hills Golf Club about a half mile north.

Apr 14 2024 frank femenias 1:03 AM

Amazing capture of the old Motor Parkway roadway underpass below Jericho Tpke in Mineola; photo is looking north in the ‘60s. The original Mineola Lodge still exists nearby today, though expanded but still recognizable

Apr 14 2024 eric C shaffer 10:44 AM

Looking South towards the bridge over Jericho Turnpike in Mineola. Right after the parkway closed circa 1940. Tool lodge would be on the left-hand side of photo. This is completely filled in today. Wonder if the bridge was removed or filled in and driven over.

Apr 14 2024 Bob Albertson 11:21 AM

Powell Ave Bridge in Central Park (Bethpage) NY

Apr 14 2024 Christopher Zarzycki 11:25 AM

You finally have one that I recognize.  Going under Jericho Tpk. in Mineola.  The power towers give it away.  And Beardslee - bought a lot of parts there…
The Motor Parkway structure Underpass Jericho Turnpike (or bridge - depending how you look at it.)
Location and orientation of the photographer Looking north through the bridge
Approximate date. Provide a rationale From the cars and the bikes, I am going to say late 50’s - maybe 1958
Any other possible Motor Parkway structures near the photo location Guessing the Mineola Lodge.

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Apr 14 2024 Roy Warner 11:28 AM

1. Jericho Tpke overpass over the Parkway
2. Looking North (parkway was northbound at that point)
3. Appx 1954, give or take a year or two. The Schwin bikes and the kid’s clothing (pants and jacket). That’s the kind of clothing I had at the time.
4.  Oddly, enough, yes. The building the northside of Jericho. Before moving to Boca in ‘04, I spent my career trying cases in Supreme/Nassau and Suffolk, the City, Westchester, and occasionally in other states; VA, CA, CT, NJ, and FL (admitted in ‘81). I had a products liability case where one of the defendants was a company that leased space in the building.  The other feature that I can identify is the high-tension Long Island Lighting tower north of Jericho; LILCO got an easement or bought the right of way years before; maybe in ‘38,

Apr 14 2024 Mark Lanese 11:34 AM

LIMP bridge carrying Jericho Tpke. in Mineola over LIMP. Picture was taken looking north before the widening of Jericho Tpke probably late 1950’s, the widening took place in the 1960’s Out of view to the left would be the Mineola Lodge which has been converted into a home.

Apr 14 2024 George Philippides 2:52 PM

This is the Jericho Turnpike Motor Parkway bridge,  looking north.
Time is sometime after 1951, I would say mid 50s to mid 60s. The building is the Beardslee Equipment Transmission company building is seen in the picture. That company started in Long Island City in 1951 then opened other branches on Long Island after. Other structures that were near there at one time was a kiosk and then the Mineola Motor Lodge.

Apr 14 2024 David Miller 3:33 PM

This is 1960 facing north at the Jericho turnpike “highway bridge” in Mineola.  On the left would have been a ticket kiosk later replaced in 1929 with a toll lodge that was built when Jericho turnpike was widened.

Apr 14 2024 Art Kleiner 4:16 PM

Motor Parkway running under the Jericho Turnpike Bridge.
Photographer is on the parkway looking north. Electrical tower is on the north side of Jericho Turnpike. 
1950s, Parkway not used and filled with debris.
Mineola Lodge located nearby.

Apr 14 2024 Dave K 4:33 PM

This is the Jericho Tpke tunnel with the photographer facing south.  On the other side of the bridge, you would see the old Jericho Lodge, which was probably a converted residence by then.  You can also tell by the power lines to the photographer’s right.  This was probably early 60’s

Apr 14 2024 Alan Wunner 6:49 PM

I think that is the Jericho Turnpike underpass facing towards the north. The building in the picture is still standing

Apr 15 2024 Fred Rieder 3:33 PM

The structure is the underpass for Jericho Turnpike in Mineola.
The photographer is on the Motor Parkway facing North.  Jericho Turnpike above runs East and West.
The approximate date is 1954-1955 ?  That’s my bicycle in the photo, as I was the only one in the area with a mud flap.  I’m almost certain that the kid in the photo is me.  I lived one long block away on Cromwell Road in Carle Place and was there almost everyday.

We used the underpass to get to the other side of Jericho as there was no legal safe way to cross it.

Apr 15 2024 Christopher Lindsley 5:38 PM

this scene is of the motor parkway going under Jericho Turnpike. The photographer is shooting south. I would guess early 60’s

Apr 16 2024 Joseph Oesterle 8:25 PM

Just a couple of observations.

First.  The depth of the bridge in 1910 is obviously quite narrower than the 1950 ariel view.  Do we know then the bridge may have been modified?  The southside western retaining wall from 1910 seems to match the 1960 photo to perfection.  It makes me believe the modification was extending the tunnel under on the north side. 

Second.  Is it me?  Or does out Toll Gate in the 1910 picture seem off.  The East view makes the building appear to be a six-sided structure.  Whereas the West view makes the building appear to have 4 sides.  Is this just an optical illusion in the photos?  Are there other pictures?  The wood fence from both angles appears to be the same fence. 

Third, there appears there could be a barrier across the parkway in the 1950 overhead photo.  Just south of the bridge.  I am not sure what else it might be.  Of course, as a kid, I remember finding stone walls build across the right of way a couple of times.  And that seems like a logical solution. 

-joe

Apr 16 2024 Brian McCarthy 10:30 PM

Fred Rieder - How neat you recognize you and your bike in the mystery foto. Not sure, but I think the Gentleman & Lady up on Jericho Tpke, left of the bridge, is the couple that toured the LIMP ( there’s a few blogs here of their explorations.

The screenshots show this location in 1926, 1950 and Today. Been known that the Toll Lodge was moved 100 ft south, due to the widening of Jericho Tpke. 1926 shows the original. 1950 shows it’s re location at todays Rudolf Rd. The overhang was included with the relocation. used as a carport likely. Also, before Rudolf Rd was developed, the home had a long driveway towards Jericho.

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Apr 16 2024 frank femenias 10:48 PM

“East view of Toll Gate”, from photographer. Photo is actually east view of Toll Gate, looking west.

Apr 16 2024 Brian McCarthy 11:28 PM

I see what you’re seeing, Joseph. The view of the kiosk from Jericho is 2 sides meeting each other, the roof too. Then the view from the field side is 3 sides, roof too. Both in the 1909 and 1910 images. Odd construction, but I think it’s the same building. Recall a blog here about Old Country Rd was being widened while the LIMP was in operation. Like they extended each side of the Highway bridge then constructing those thick walls on each side. Looks like the same construction was done with the Highway bridge at Jericho. You’re right about the barriers, some exist still - East of New Hyde Park Rd, West of Roslyn Rd, East of Old Swamp Rd.

Apr 16 2024 Brian McCarthy 11:35 PM

Not Old Swamp Rd, Round Swamp Rd lol : )

Apr 17 2024 Mark Lanese 12:30 AM

Joseph. I agree that the kiosk looks like a 4 sided structure in the 1909 picture.

Apr 17 2024 al velocci 11:43 AM

Those are two different kiosks. The six-sided kiosk is not identified with a location, Also, I believe the directional view description of the 1909 dated photo is wrong. I’m assuming that the roadway in front of the kiosk is Jericho Turnpike therefore the view is to the southeast’

Apr 17 2024 Dave Russo 9:50 PM

What’s up everyone!
I miss the Motor Parkway.
Here’s some pics of this location looking at it from the other side, the north side of Jericho Tpk

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Apr 17 2024 frank femenias 10:16 PM

Brian McCarthy - Quite possible the same couple exploring/documenting the LIMP have reached the Jericho Tpke bridge in Mineola. If so there’s a third person photographing. 
I’ve seen multiple kiosks and toll lodges at the Mineola site, courtesy VanderbiltCupRaces.com.

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Apr 18 2024 frank femenias 1:59 PM

Joseph Oesterle - likely a heightened concrete barrier added later to prevent pedestrians from falling over?

Fred Rieder -  an enhanced close-up of you and the bike, and a Sept 18, 1950 aerial of the lodge, pre Cromwell Rd. Courtesy Cradle of Aviation Archives

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Apr 18 2024 Brian McCarthy 9:27 PM

Really think the couple up on Jericho Tpke are the same couple that officially toured the LIMP 1958 - 1967. Could also be Fred’s parents. Maybe his parents did the tours? Believe this couple is still unknown.

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Apr 21 2024 Walt Gosden 4:33 PM

the current commercial building that says Beardslee transmission Company was owned by Eugene (Gene) Beardslee who lived on long island and was a collector of classic cars-pre war era. He was a great enthusiast and had some spectacular vehicles and the L.I. Region of CCCA when it was first active ( more so then current status) used to go to a picnic at Gene’s house to see his cars and visit. Gene was a very cordial host and wonderful person.

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