Aug 17 2020

Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany’s Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow


Greg O. challenged you to identify this weekend's Mystery Foto.

Mystery Foto questions:

  • Identify the location, the name of the estate and its owner

Laurelton Hall in Laurel Hollow, the estate of designer Louis Comfort Tiffany. His father Charles Lewis Tiffany established Tiffany & Company. Laurelton Hall was located on a 580 acre estate.

  • Link the estate's owner's family with the Vanderbilt Cup Races

 Tiffany & Company designed the Vanderbilt Cup trophy for William K. Vanderbilt Jr, in March 1904.

  • Which part of the estate is still standing today?

As well documented below, the mansion was destroyed by a fire on March 6, 1957.  The smokestack for the estate's power plant, a portion of the glass-enclosed bridge and likely some outbuildings are standing. Surviving artifacts from Laurelton Hall are exhibited at the Charles Hosmer Morse Museum of Modern Art in Winter Park, Florida.

Views of the Laurelton Hall remnants can be seen at the 8:20 mark of this film.

Comments (15)

Congrats to Jon Murray, Greg O., Steve Lucas, Robert Fowler, Art Kleiner, Mark Schier, Sam Berliner III, Scott J. Alexander, Richard Weir and Al Velocci (my favorite co-author) for correctly identifying Louis C. Comfort's Laurelton Hall in Laurel Hollow.

Kudos to Greg O, Art Kleiner and Sam Berliner III for documenting their Comments with jpegs.

Enjoy,

Howard Kroplick



Comments

Aug 14 2020 Jon Murray 12:54 PM

It’s Laurelton Hall, Tiffany’s house and workshop/farm in Laurel Hollow. Only the powerhouse smoke stack remains.

Aug 14 2020 Greg O. 9:02 PM

#1- The former smokestack to the power house of ‘Laurelton Hall’ about 2011.
#2&3- mansion ruins now, date unknown

All of the remnants on private property.

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Aug 14 2020 Greg O. 9:03 PM

One more somewhat current view of the smoke stack.

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Aug 15 2020 Steve Lucas 4:28 PM

That’s Laurelton Hall in Laurel Hollow, the estate of Louis Comfort Tiffany. The silver Vanderbilt Cup was designed by Tiffany and Company. Not sure but I think the only two remnants of the estate still standing are the minaret tower (smokestack) from the power house and a small wall section from the glass enclosed bridge or court.

Aug 16 2020 Robert Fowler 7:52 AM

Laurel ton Hall the home of Louis Comfort Tiffany in Laurel Hollow town of Oyster Bay,NY.
The only thing standing is the smoke stack by the shore.He designed the Vanderbilt Cup
Races Silver Cup Trophy.

Aug 16 2020 Thomas McGlinchey 12:04 PM

Willie Vanderbilt, The Commodore’s estate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanderbilt_Museum

Aug 16 2020 Art Kleiner 12:45 PM

Laurel Hollow, Laurelton Hall, Louis C. Tiffany.  Estate had at one time 1,500 acres. 
Tiffany created the Vanderbilt Cup Race trophy.
The minaret (actually the smokestack for the estate’s power plant) still remains today.
First photo from Feb., 2018, second Aug. 15, 2020 (with Tiffany’s water sports equipment) and article from Newsday, March 7, 1958. 

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Aug 16 2020 mark schaier 12:47 PM

Louis Comfort Tiffany estates in Laurel Hollow? The tower near the water. The connection with owner’s family with the Vanderbilt Cup Races, unknown to me?

Aug 16 2020 S. Berliner, III 5:48 PM

Oh, c’mon!  Louis Comfort Tiffany’s Laurelton Hall out the end of Laurel Hollow Road in Laurel Hollow.  Burned down in 1958.  Salvaged portions at the Morse Museum in Winter Park FL, and at the MMA.  Some of the glass covered bridge (orig. attached) supposedly remains at Ridge Road.  Tiffany & Co. made the V. Cup.  Sam, III

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Aug 16 2020 Scott J. Alexander 8:54 PM

The picture is the estate called Laurelton Hall” and was built for Louis C. Tiffany Estate in Laurel Hollow, New York. The original 65-room mansion, and 600 acre estate was completed in 1905. Designed by Louis C. Tiffany himself. The estate burned in 1957 and some parts were saved. The majority of windows and other surviving architectural pieces were salvaged by Hugh McKean and Jeannette Genius McKean of the Charles Hosmer Morse Museum of American Art and shipped to Winter Park, Florida, after the fire. A major retrospective of Laurelton Hall opened at New York’s Metropolitan Museum of Art in November, 2006. Additionally, Louis Comfort Tiffany created the Vanderbilt Cup Trophy!

Aug 16 2020 richard weir 9:14 PM

It’s ‘Laurelton Hall’ of Louis Comfort Tiffany that was sadly destroyed by horrific fire in the mid 1960’s. Certainly Willie K and Louis lived famously at the same time and in the same locale on the waters of Li’s North Shore (Laurelton Hall in Oyster Bay/Laurel Hollow). All that remains of the Vast estate is the water tower and some of the more distant stable buildings (individual residences, now) in the area. This place could have been the East’s version of Hearst’s San Simeon!

Aug 17 2020 John 5:11 PM

Taking a wild guess here, but what is now the Vanderbilt Museum and Planetarium? It was owned by Vanderbilt and was known as the Eagle’s Nest, and now it functions as a museum for the public.

Aug 17 2020 John 5:41 PM

Followup to my previous comment, I believe this is correct because of the location shown in the photos…it’s near the shore, however there is land on the otherside nearby. That land is probably Bluff Point.

Aug 17 2020 al velocci 7:27 PM

Greg,  We are looking at “Laurelton Hall”, the Louis C. Tiffany estate at Cold Spring Harbor. His firm created the Vanderbilt Cup. The complex had at least two unusual features. The square tower had a spiral staircase that went to the top and besides spectacular views of Long Island Sound, one could also see the Atlantic Ocean. The other unique feature was that he built a tunnel from the main road to the mansion for tradesmen and workers. He didn’t want anyone but family and guests to use the drives and roads he built thru out the 500 plus acre estate. Tiffany, the supreme egotist, did not hire an architect, he designed it all, built ca 1903-1905.

Aug 17 2020 Greg O. 8:10 PM

Thanks for the extra bit of info Al! I had heard about tunnels, but thought they just connected buildings.

Aug 19 2020 Brian D McCarthy 12:00 AM

The chapel is quite beautiful and significant, not surprised that some kneel down in prayer when encountered. That’s the best looking smokestack I ever seen, designed like a landmark or beacon. Thinking Laurel Hollow Rd was the main road that was near the estate tunnel?

Aug 19 2020 Greg O. 12:04 AM

A few more of where the current remnants locations are in the private backyards.

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Aug 19 2020 Greg O. 12:16 AM

1938 Aerial
mansion crudely in yellow, lake in blue, smokestack minaret in red

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Aug 19 2020 al velocci 11:22 AM

Greg, I’m assuming the main road to the estate was Laurel Hollow Rd. since the it was relatively close to the mansion.  There was another entrance of consequence to the estate, it was off of the north end of Oyster Bay Cove Rd. The 1906 and 1914 atlases identify the estate as “Elmwood”  When Tiffany acquired the property, (from several parties), it included the Laurelton Hotel which was near the north end of Laurel Hollow Rd . on it’s east side. I guess thats where “Laurelton Hall” comes from.

Aug 19 2020 al velocci 6:05 PM

O.K. ITS NIT-PICKING TIME !!!!!  The Tiffany mansion was not built in Laurel Hollow because there was no Laurel Hollow in 1902. At the time the area was part of Cold Spring Harbor. The area didn’t incorporate as a village until 1926 and even then,the name chosen, was not…. Laurel Hollow. The residents of the area settled on “Laurelton”.... you know,... like Laurelton in Queens ? Well that led to some confusion, (duh),  so in 1935 the name was changed to… (hold your breath,)  Laurel Hollow, Tiffany didn’t know this because he died in 1933. So, send in your corrections and apologies,  NOW!

Aug 19 2020 S. Berliner, III 6:42 PM

Just *MAGNIFICENT*, Al!  :·)  Sam, III

Aug 19 2020 S. Berliner, III 6:44 PM

Shoulda added - you can rest on your Laurels!  Sam, III

Aug 19 2020 Dave Russo 11:41 PM

So sorry I didn’t see this. You know I would have gotten this one!

Pics—-then and now: the smoke stack.

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Aug 19 2020 Dave Russo 11:45 PM

Pics then and now: the glass bridge—yes, it’s still there.

Love this stuff.

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Aug 21 2020 al velocci 11:56 AM

Sam, “Rest on my laurels” ?  Na, will leave that to Hardy.

Aug 21 2020 S. Berliner, III 1:02 PM

Har, de har, har!  To stick to Tiffany, this thread’s a real jewel, truly sterling!  [HK’s gonna kill us!  Hey, if the DNC can have a comedian, so can we.]  To atone, here’s a great aerial view.  Sam, III

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Aug 21 2020 al velocci 3:52 PM

Sam, Your right. Back to Tiffany/Vanderbilt. The families were actually connected, in a round about fashion. ... sort of… Willie’s mother, Alva, had a sister Mary, (Jennie) who married a William George Tiffany, don’t think he was related to Louis Tiffany. Any way ...  he was a cousin of O.H.P. Belmont, Alva’s second husband.

Not only that, I think Willie and Louie knew each other.  Louis C. Tiffany had a “summer cottage” at Newport, plus his wife Louise, was involved with several charities that Willie’s wife participated in.

Aug 21 2020 Art Kleiner 5:24 PM

Great pic, Sam!

Aug 22 2020 al velocci 12:42 PM

All,  aaaaah…. Louis C. Tiffany had nothing to do with the Vanderbilt Cup.            As Howard correctly pointed out, the Cup was produced by Tiffany & Co. By 1904 Louis was no longer involved with Tiffany & Co on a day by day basis.. While he remained a VP of the firm, in the mid 1890’s he had established Tiffany Studios, a separate entity, owned by him, concentrating of glass, pottery and other works of art. Its probably a good thing he was not involved with the Vanderbilt Cup, he would have insisted it be made of pottery. Oh well…. we all certainly know more about “Laurelton Hall” than we did before.

Aug 22 2020 S. Berliner, III 1:48 PM

I, for one, at least, never said Louis was involved in the Cup itself.  “& Co,”  Pottery?  That’s a crock!  Sam, III

Aug 24 2020 Tom 8:53 AM

If that smokestack could talk ~

Jan 19 2023 JT 12:19 AM

The stables to the estate are on Tiffany Rd in Oyster Bay Cove and have been a private residence for a long time. They were restored by an architect,  then sold. Here’s the listing.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/39-Tiffany-Rd-Oyster-Bay-Cove-NY-11771/31160315_zpid/

Sep 03 2023 Caryl 10:34 AM

I have a friend who lived on the Tiffany Estate from 1947-1953. Her father and his partner bought 50 acres which included the mansion, stables, chapel and art gallery. They lived in the art gallery and sold the mansion and stables. She said the chapel was locked up and it’s unclear to me what the deal was with that- I know it’s in a museum now.

We can’t find any documentation of this sale, but I’m guessing they bought it from the Tiffany Foundation? I’ve been researching this time period and have found precious little. I contacted the Foundation but haven’t heard back.

If anyone has any information or can advise me on who to contact, I’d appreciate it! I found it all very fascinating.

Thanks!

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