Mystery Foto #41 Solved: The East Norwich Turn of the Vanderbilt Race Courses As Seen in 1955
The Helck Family Collection challenged you to identify this weekend's Mystery Foto.
Answers to the Mystery Foto questions:
- Identify the location and orientation of the photographer. Hint: The building was standing on the Vanderbilt Cup Race Courses from 1904 to 1910.
The East Norwich Turn located at the intersection of Jericho-Oyster Bay Road and North Hempstead Turnpike (25A). The photographer is looking south-east.
- In which Vanderbilt Cup Race(s) was this part of the course(s)?
1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Races
- What year was the photo taken? Provide a rationale.
1955. The makes of the automobiles and owner of the store at the location: J.D. Meyerdiercks
- Kudos question: Identify the automobiles in the Mystery Foto.
From Tim Ivers and Al Prete: The car next to the building looks like a 50 Chevrolet. The car in the middle facing us looks like a 48 Dodge. The panel truck on the left looks like a 48 Chevrolet.
Comments (6)
Congrats to Art Kleiner, Tim Ivers, Sam Berliner III and Matt Meng for identifying the East Norwich Turn.
Kudos to Tim Ivers and Al Prete for identifying the automobiles in the Mystery Foto.
Enjoy,
Howard Kroplick
Close-Ups
East Norwich Turn of the Vanderbilt Race Courses
1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race
1906 Vanderbilt Race
1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race
Joe Tracy and Al Poole practicing for the American Elimination Trial in the #5 Locomobile while several spectators look on at McQueen's Store.
Bert Dingley driving the #3 Pope-Toledo just before making the turn at McQueen's Store.
1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race
A flagman waving the all-clear signal to Felice Nazzaro's #8 Fiat.
McQueen's Store
The 1905 and 1906 races went through the heart of East Norwich. After passing McQueen's Store (south-west corner) and W.F. Johnson's Store (south-east corner), the cars headed west with the East Norwich Hotel at the north-west corner.
Circa 1910s
Circa 1950s
Now
Comments
Identify the location and orientation of the photographer.
Corner of No. Hempstead Turnpike (25A) and Jericho Oyster Bay Road (Rt. 106)
View is looking west towards the store.
In which Vanderbilt Cup Race(s) was this part of the course(s)?
1905,1906
What year was the photo taken? Provide a rationale. Mid-1930s
Kudos question: Identify the automobiles in the Mystery Foto.
One firetruck.
A few more docs. Guess J.D. Meyerdierks liked Fords! Check out the license plate #.
No clue about the corner. The cars are a ‘46-‘48 Dodge (coming towards the camera) and a ‘50 Chevrolet (with its rear to the camera).
Looking south in East Norwich at North Hempstead Turnpike (25A) and Route 106.
This was one of the hairpin turns in the 1905-1906 races.
The building (southwest corner) was the McQueen store.
The car next to the building looks like a 50 Chevrolet.
The car in the middle facing us looks like a 48 Dodge.
The panel truck on the left looks like a 48 Chevrolet.
Photo from 1950.
Attached is another photo of McQueen’s store
No clue (what’s new?) but the Chrysler product facing us at left is a 1946-48 Dodge, so that dates the pic to no earlier than very-late 1945. Wild guess based on vague recollection of Meyerdierk’s - East Norwich at No. Hempstead Tpke. (No. Blvd./25A) and Jericho-Oyster Bay Road (106), probably at south-east corner? Sam, III
CORNER OF ROUTE 106 AND 25A
Oops. South-WEST corner. Current view attached. Sam, III
In the second photo the white car looks like a 1960 Pontiac.
Tom, no 1960 anything and no 1950 Pontiac (no stripes on trunk lid). As to Howard’s “Circa 1950s” pic, those are ‘57-‘58 Chrysler Corp. tail fins. Sam, III