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Feb 10 2020 Steven Lynch 3:08 PM

Terrific. I do wish the maps were larger to read details.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Part 2- Mapping the Motor Parkway, Mitchel Field & Mitchel Gardens

Feb 10 2020 Tim Ivers 2:59 PM

Looking northeast at South Oyster Bay Road and Jericho Turnpike about 1908.
On the left is Powell’s Jericho Hotel.
The 1908 race used this route.
The Beau Sejour, a landmark restaurant, was on Central Avenue, Bethpage, just a stone’s throw from
the Massapequa toll lodge on Rte 107 (Hicksville Road). Many patrons of the LIMP dined there..

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: The Jericho Turn in Jericho on a Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

Feb 10 2020 Art Kleiner 7:28 AM

Forgot to add my bonus Mystery Question: who is the person in the lower left hand corner of the photo?  Some more pics of the Beau Sejour.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: The Jericho Turn in Jericho on a Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

Feb 10 2020 Art Kleiner 7:25 AM

Identify the road and location of the Mystery Foto. What was the orientation of the photographer?  Jericho Turnpike (Jericho) intersecting Rte. 106 (Oyster Bay Road) - “The Curve of Death”.  Looking Northeast?
 
Identify the building on the left and the automobile.  Powell’s Hotel.  Will leave the auto to the experts.

For which Vanderbilt Cup Race(s) was this section part of the course? 1904, 1905, 1906, 1908.

Where was the Hotel Beau Sejour located? Link this hotel to the Long Island Motor Parkway.  Central Park (Stewart Ave. and Central Ave.)  Close to the Motor Parkway so travelers often stopped at the Hotel to eat and a rest. 

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: The Jericho Turn in Jericho on a Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

Feb 09 2020 Brian D McCarthy 10:35 PM

Yes Al, I see what you mean after looking at a few maps here on the site. Still think the Motor Parkway Spur indicated above is pertaining to a section of the unbuilt Hemp Spur. The 3 maps below show where the spur was to be.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Part 2- Mapping the Motor Parkway, Mitchel Field & Mitchel Gardens

Feb 09 2020 Mark Lanese 10:00 PM

Well that was a fun 2 hours reminiscing past archives of the bridges. Great work, as it always is.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documentation of the First 15 Long Island Motor Parkway Bridges in Nassau County

Feb 09 2020 Joseph Oesterle 8:39 PM

Jericho Tpke and Route 106.  The car is heading west.  Past the Jericho hotel.  Behind it the roads used to combine for about 300 yards, before 106 headed north and Jericho Tpke continued east.  This is the best photo I think i have ever seen of this intersection.  Of course, today, you would never believe it is the same place.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: The Jericho Turn in Jericho on a Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

Feb 09 2020 Mike Appice 7:11 PM

If you look by the firehouse fence there are remnants of the posts

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Carman Avenue Motor Parkway Bridge Removal

Feb 09 2020 Steve Lucas 4:40 PM

I think we’re looking east on Jericho Turnpike at the intersection with the road to Oyster Bay (today’s route 106). Powell’s Jericho Hotel is on the left. Behind the hotel appears to be D. F. Maltby’s Automobile Garage, headquarters for the Locomobile during the Vanderbilt Cup Races. The 1905, 1906, and 1908 races used this section as part of the course. As the sign indicates, the Hotel Beau Sejour was located 6 miles south in Central Park (Bethpage) on the N/W corner of Central Avenue and Stewart Avenue. Since it was one of the better hotels around and quite close to the LIMP, it was a popular gathering spot before and after the races. As for the vintage automobile, I’ll leave that for the “Brass Era” experts.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: The Jericho Turn in Jericho on a Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

Feb 09 2020 S. Berliner, III 3:26 PM

Whooie; what a trip down memory lane!  Even found I’d missed myself (#17).  Now, as to #19, I.U. Willets Road Motor Parkway Bridge in Searingtown, I thought I knew that area pretty well but go to the triangle between Old Searingtown Road and “new” Searingtown Road, opposite the VFW and library, and look NW at Old Homestead Road.  I don’t remember any such (it may well not have been there back then) but it sure looks to be the LIMP RoW (see attached).  Anyone know more about this location?  Sam, III

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documentation of the First 15 Long Island Motor Parkway Bridges in Nassau County

Feb 09 2020 CliffG 2:16 PM

Howard: Congratulations on retirement from your second assigned career.  Best or luck in your new task to complete the restoration of the Roslyn Grist Mill yet another project of pride for you, and the people of Roslyn to have pride in.

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Feb 09 2020 Jim Kaplan 11:03 AM

Thank you for this series on the LIMP bridges. Please note that the caption for bridge #16 should indicate the location as Manhasset Hills/North Hills rather than as Searingtown.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documentation of the First 15 Long Island Motor Parkway Bridges in Nassau County

Feb 09 2020 Lee Chambers 1:07 AM

Frank,

The long gone roadway running across the former Camp Mills which ran from West to East roughly between 7th and 8th Streets, cutting through the future Hospital, proceeding across what would become the Parade Grounds, going directly through the future Commanding Officer’s Quarters at the center of Rice Circle and terminating at East Road evaporated with the Base Reconfiguration of 1927-1932. 

Looks like these documents are from after that time frame.  Art?

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Part 2- Mapping the Motor Parkway, Mitchel Field & Mitchel Gardens

Feb 08 2020 S. Berliner, III 9:31 PM

I’m with Brian; the abutments are “structure” and would have been removed under the contract.  The south side of the triangle does not appear to have been actually realigned so much as the triangle was simply removed from the parcel.  I well remember “liberating” a post from the CR67 widening operation just west of Harned Road, ‘way back; whoo - was that ever heavy!  I was still strong then but could only lift one end at a time.  Sam, III

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Carman Avenue Motor Parkway Bridge Removal

Feb 08 2020 mark schaier 7:46 PM

The Carmen Ave. bridge is where the photographer stood on the bridge took the photo of the 1907/08 Buick on the Motor Parkway with view looking west of the vast Hempstead Plains beyond, taken in Sept. 1908, appears on the cover of the Arcadia Pub. The Long Island Motor Parkway, co written by Howard and Al Volocci.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Carman Avenue Motor Parkway Bridge Removal

Feb 08 2020 S. Berliner, III 5:09 PM

Hicksville?  For the Beau Sejour location, see my LIMP Maps page 1 <http://sbiii.com/limpmap1.html#BethCent>, “(formerly) at the NW corner of Stewart and Central Avenues, long reputed to be, or contain part of, a LIMP Toll Lodge [highly unlikely - the Beau Sejour mansion was built in 1847 and sold to Harry G. Wilson in 1918 when it became a restaurant hosting the carriage trade from the LIMP - it was sold and demolished in 1973 - per Central Park Historical Society].”  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: The Jericho Turn in Jericho on a Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

Feb 08 2020 S, Berliner, III 4:52 PM

Thanks, Art; that’s exactly where I assumed Dave meant but I was in there many times over the past 70 years and, unlike the Mitchel patch, there’s NOTHING original about it.  It was barren, ‘way back.  Prairie grasses and such may have re-established themselves, along with shrubs, but “original”?  No way, Hose A!  Back to the LIMP, anyone?  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Feb 08 2020 S. Berliner, III 4:49 PM

[Somehow this got lost in the shuffle - it wasn’t posted:]  “Affluent”?  Sorry to rain on your parade, Tom.  The 1908 Buick 10 Runabout was priced at $900 specifically to compete with the Ford Model T Runabout at $825.  You got a lot more for your additional $75.  Found a contemporary Buick 10 pic with all three people aboard, attached.  - - -  // - - -  Added now: - I’d love to see a similar side view of the S&W Buick, itself.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A Never Before Published Photo from the Newbridge Road Motor Parkway Bridge

Feb 07 2020 Al Prete 5:21 PM

The road is Jericho Turnpike, just west of Woodbury Road. The photographer is looking east (rationale: the sign pointing to the right). The building is W. B. Powell’s Jericho Hotel. This was part of the VCR course in 1908.

The sign says “Central Park” which was the old name for Bethpage, so Bethpage is where the Beau Sejour Hotel was. I found that it was at the NW corner of Central Avenue and Stewart Avenue. Built in 1847, torn down in 1973. (Google Maps calculates 6.6 miles via one route, not too far off from the sign in the Foto.) The connection to the LIMP is it hosted the carriage trade that utilized the parkway. It was known for its fine dining.

Cars of that era all look like carriages with a motor where the horse used to be. I have no clue about the car. The logo on the radiator might be a clue for someone.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: The Jericho Turn in Jericho on a Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

Feb 07 2020 Al Velocci 2:48 PM

For more on the bridge to nowhere see book-Hidden History of Long Island by Richard Panchyk

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Part 2- Mapping the Motor Parkway, Mitchel Field & Mitchel Gardens

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