Vanderbilt Cup Races

Wow, you guys are incredible w your knowledge / research.

Brian, you’ve been hanging out w frank too much. Your map skills are getting really good.

I love seeing these old Long Island pics. What’s cooler then seeing the space you grew up with before it was developed. There’s history and there’s personal history and seeing these LI locations that I’m familiar with is awesome. I get people that love history of all types but to me this beats the ancient Egyptians or Romans any day of the week!

If you drive on old country road east passing merrick ave and then look to the right (south) they have a section of the park that is preserved and really does look like this.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Hi Howard and All:          Re: Grist Mill Project // Water Source
    Please enlighten me as to the route of the water that feeds the wheel that drives
the mill.  I cannot locate a creek or source that feeds it and it would give me the
total picture of its history etc.  A wonderful project and best of luck with it !!!
                    With Best Regards Always,  Ron.
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Hi Ron,
I added several January 10, 2020 drone aerials. The source of the water flow is Silver Lake located south of the Roslyn Grist Mill.

From The Restoration of the Roslyn Grist Mill (Updated: February 27, 2020)

Oops - forgot to reference Mystery Foto #34 of 2 Aug 2015, <http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/mystery_friday_foto_33_can_you_identify_tis_section_of_the_long_island_moto>, which documents the Ladenburg property; ditto, to a lesser extent, Bridge Series #35 of 07 Aug 2013, <http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/long_island_motor_parkway_bridge_series_35_the_meadowbrook_bridge_in_east_m>; and several others.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Mayhap, Al, because it isn’t there (or no one can see it)!  I have to assume you refer to the tiny blur in line between the lone man in a white shirt (over his left shoulder) and the mill tower - covered by the “W” in “Whaleneck” in Brian’s markup.  HK, ***PLEASE***, give us bigger (*MUCH* bigger) enlargements - pretty please, pretty please with Aspartame on it.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Love that last pic, that Buick is sharp.  What a fun purchase for the affluent buyer!

From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A Never Before Published Photo from the Newbridge Road Motor Parkway Bridge

Great “similar views”. Admiring the 22ft roadway being carved out through Eisenhower Park’s Red golf course (Aug 1908)! Art, informative view in the Oasis aerial! It’s always hidden in the forest of trees and can never tell what’s happening inside. Also never knew the racetrack was part of the estate. Always learning something new here. Great website.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Hey, no one mentioned the ever present photographers car.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Sam, Al - makes absolute sense in terms of its location.

From Mystery Foto #2 Solved: The New Hyde Park Road Motor Parkway Bridge Abutment

Salisbury Plains ( now Eisenhower Park), looking northeast across Merrick Ave at the
Ladenburg estate ,farm and windmill.
Vanderbilt cup races 1908,1909, and 1910

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

This was my grandparents house property. Park lake rest home. There is now 4 houses on the property.

From Then & Now: The Annex to the Petit Trianon

Yee-hah; tol’ you so!  Was I closer on my last aerial, Art?  Shovel brigade?  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #2 Solved: The New Hyde Park Road Motor Parkway Bridge Abutment

Frank - doubt it; that work train wouldn’t have had anything to do with LIMP or posts.  The ties were all replaced for the test and you can see old and new ties in the two piles by the track.  It’s single track - no siding; that last car is over-width because of the work platform.  Also spotted two more details.  1. - Where’s the ubiquitous water supply pipe?  2. - the back of the Buick is NOT carrying barrels; that’s a “mother-in-law” (jump or dickey ) seat (see 1908 Buick 10 Runabout pic attached - need better pic of S&W car)!  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A Never Before Published Photo from the Newbridge Road Motor Parkway Bridge

*Location & Orientation:  East Meadow, NY, viewing northeast. Ladenburg Estate in the distance. The LIMP is visible just west of the future Meadowbrook Pkwy Bridge

*Visible road with photographers Buick:  Merrick Ave aka Whaleneck Rd.

*VC races here:  1908, 1909 & 1910.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Sam - Could be two separated piles of RR ties and posts. Note the different color wood on the two stacks.

From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A Never Before Published Photo from the Newbridge Road Motor Parkway Bridge

Can you see any of these in Google street view? I tried to look up “The Hollis Hills Terrace Bridge in Queens,” but it’s obviously not the right place (*image att).

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documentation of the 12 Long Island Motor Parkway Bridges in Queens

These photos are amazing.  Glad they have been shared.  Bob

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documentation of the 12 Long Island Motor Parkway Bridges in Queens

The tree-filled oasis of the Ladenburg property with windmill in Salisbury, once home to young Eleanor Roosevelt gave this mystery away. Ladenburg Drive, winding through the oasis still exists today. Motor Parkway road crew had just begun clearing the way for construction of the Meadow Brook lodge (1908-1954) in East Garden City/Salisbury. Merrick Av (Whaleneck Rd/Post Rd) with electric poles can be seen passing across the center of photo. A bridge will soon be built for the parkway to pass over it. The open field on opposite side of Merrick Av is location of today’s Eisenhower Park’s (Salisbury Links) golf course. This location was also the starting point of the wider 22 ft LIMP that stretched to the Bethpage lodge (8.7 mi). The remaining parkway was built 16 ft wide, and later expanded as well. Photographer was looking east sometime in 1908. VCR races that started/passed through here were 1908-10. This 112 year old photo is in excellent condition of superb quality. Thank you GC Archives for sharing these gems.

Map link below  

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1396j0_672hYkvbcNFJInbc1mXNJspD9f&ll=40.7388159479613,-73.57961075938374&z=16

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

I have so many pix of some of these posted (and so many missing - sorry) that I wouldn’t know where to start but <http://sbiii.com/limp-qn1.html>, et seq., would be good.  Wheeler #1 is at <http://sbiii.com/limp-qn3.html#wheeler> in May 2008 in great detail.  Note in Art’s posted aerial above that the Wheeler #1 underpass was active up to the end but #2 seems to have no trace of use by 1924.  Another fab. post, Art; thanks.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documentation of the 12 Long Island Motor Parkway Bridges in Queens

Thanks Al, I went back on Thursday and found what u and Sam and Robert are referring to.
See attached. Very accessible.  In fact this morning I found some pics on the blog I had put up in 2015 showing it.  Don’t remember having found it before but I had.

From Mystery Foto #2 Solved: The New Hyde Park Road Motor Parkway Bridge Abutment

The house and mill tower in the distance are dead give-aways to the “van Somebody”‘s farm-cum-estate in Roslyn - further deponent sayeth not (not without cheating), although a wild guess would put it at Guinea Woods Road looking west.  This should prove verrrrry interesting.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908