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The six Vanderbilt Cup Races held on Long Island from 1904 to 1910 were the greatest sporting events of their day, and the first international automobile road races held in the United States. The races had a far-reaching impact on the development of American automobiles and parkways. This site provides comprehensive information on the races, the Long Island Motor Parkway and current Long Island automotive events, car shows and news.
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A nice then and now, looks like the same house down the street.
From Update From the Pickering Collection: Images of the Vanderbilt Cup Races and Long Island
Art,
Possibly a coincidence, but doing a rough measurement of the size of the original Deepdale Estate grounds on Google Earth comes out to just about 3 1/2 miles. Also, the remnants that still exist today exactly match that Wayne Iron Works photo. If I was a gambler, I’d go with the advertisement photo as being Deepdale.
From Mystery Foto #16 Solved: The Lakeville Road Entrance to the Great Neck Lodge in 1914
Bethpage looking NNE at top.
LIMP is diagonal at bottom right corner and curvy along the right edge.
LIMP Central Ave RR bridge, Powell Ave bridge, Nibbes farmway bridge, Deadman’s Curve #2, 1908 Ground Breaking Ceremony site at bottom, east of Stewart Ave and north of the LIMP.
LIMP, LIRR, Central Ave, Stewart Ave, Broadway.
Early Grumman Airfield ramps, about 1942
Only the 1908 VCR used this section of LIMP
From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A 1940 aerial of the Bethpage, the Grumman Airport and the Motor Parkway
Found the first two pictures in a booklet promoting the Wayne Iron Works of Philadelphia. Can anyone confirm the 3 miles of fences referenced were used at Willie K.‘s Deepdale or perhaps another of his estates? A notation on the cover of the booklet says 1921, but picture could have been taken anytime. Last picture is from the blog.
From Mystery Foto #16 Solved: The Lakeville Road Entrance to the Great Neck Lodge in 1914
Thanks Howard!! Always enjoy, sorry for not responding, but I enjoy and send them on!
Ann
From 1958-1967 tours of the Long Island Motor Parkway #5: East Williston, Mineola, Bethpage & Old Bethpage
Yes, indeed. That is a superb poster - great colors and movement.
From Robert Carter's Artwork "La Bete Noire"
I agree the view on the RR bridge is looking east based upon the 1960 Historic Aerial showing that building south of the tracks and the siding going north.
https://www.historicaerials.com/viewer
From 1958-1967 tours of the Long Island Motor Parkway #5: East Williston, Mineola, Bethpage & Old Bethpage
The general aerial location: Bethpage, looking down at the Grumman plant and runways.
The location of the Motor Parkway: the LIMP appears at the extreme lower right corner snaking up to near the middle top. The three right of ways overlapping are the LIMP, Central Avenue, and the LIRR. This bridge of the LIMP spanned both a roadway and the railroad.
Motor Parkway structures: Additional bridges are Plainview Road and the Nibbe Farmway Bridge. A bit south out of frame is dead man’s curve.
Major roads: Broadway, Central Ave, South Oyster Bay Road (before the dogleg when the runway was extended)
Airfield: Grumman Field.
From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A 1940 aerial of the Bethpage, the Grumman Airport and the Motor Parkway
This is officially not a picture of Clinton Road bridge.
As per several web sites I investigated, the house directly in front of the bridge looking West was built in 1957 and the one directly to the south of that was built in 1950 so clearly one of them would be visible in this picture if the pic was taken any time between 1958 and 1967.
From 1958-1967 tours of the Long Island Motor Parkway #4: Garden City
We are over Bethpage with north at the top of the photo. The LIMP is near the upper right corner running north/south and the lower right corner running east/west. Structures include bridges over Powell Avenue, Central Avenue/LIRR, Jerusalem Road (Stewart Avenue), and possibly the Nibbe farmway bridge. Major roads include Central Ave. Powell Ave., Plainview Rd., Stewart Ave., Broadway, Massapequa-Hicksville Rd. and Wantagh Ave. The airfield is on the Grumman property. Small sections of the routes for the 1904, 1908, 1909 and 1910 V. C. Races can be seen in the photo. Since the Central Ave. bridge is clearly visible and it was demolished around 1950, I’ll guess the date to be 1948 - 1950.
From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A 1940 aerial of the Bethpage, the Grumman Airport and the Motor Parkway
This is neat, Howard! He’ll be pleasantly surprised, too!
From Robert Carter's Artwork "La Bete Noire"
This one had me stumped for a while, then I looked carefully at the Foto and noticed that one of the buildings is labeled “GRUMMAN.” We’re over Bethpage, with northeast at the top. LIMP is upper right. The LIRR runs across the center of the Foto. LIMP bridge over the RR and Central Avenue can be seen right center, then the second Dead Man’s Curve, then the Powell Avenue bridge. Other roads: Broadway, Stewart Avenue, Hicksville Road. The airfield is the Grumman airfield.
VCR link: The visible part of the LIMP was part of the ‘08 race.
Date: Mid ‘40’s (1946?), because of the absence of Levitt houses on the west side of Hicksville Road.
From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A 1940 aerial of the Bethpage, the Grumman Airport and the Motor Parkway
Greg O, wonderful! Great job!
From Weekend with Bernie
Why yes Al, he was there!
From Weekend with Bernie
Hey Greg, Very creative and funny. Didn’t I see Sanders at the raising of the Roslyn Grist Mill ceremonies ?
From Weekend with Bernie
He’s everywhere.
From Weekend with Bernie
*Location - Bethpage NY
*LIMP - Seen at the upper and lower right corners. 4 bridges total - Pkwy Type - Jerusalem Rd & Central Ave/LIRR. Nibbe Farmway & Powell Ave HWY Type.
*Roads - noted on the aerial below. Airfield is Grumman.
*Year - I’m guessing 1947. More development seen than 1938. 1950 aerials show the bridges removed. The bridges appear to be intact here.
From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A 1940 aerial of the Bethpage, the Grumman Airport and the Motor Parkway
Based on the development of the area( half of my street appears undeveloped) and the 135 not existing, I said around WWII
From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A 1940 aerial of the Bethpage, the Grumman Airport and the Motor Parkway
The Bethpage portion of the cup races is in the photo as well
From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A 1940 aerial of the Bethpage, the Grumman Airport and the Motor Parkway
The pic is of Bethpage circa WWII. Motor Parkway is in the top right quadrant. Stewart Ave Bridge/Groundbreaking location just out of frame to the right. Central Ave/Train bridge is in the middle of pic on the right. Powell, Nibbe, and widened section by deadmans curve #2 all visible. LIRR cuts horizontally through the middle of photo. S.Oysterbay Rd, 107, Powell, Central, and Stewart aves all in photo. So are both versions of Plainview Rd. although the Plainview Rd bridge is just out of frame. Grumman Airfield can be seen easily in center of photo.
From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A 1940 aerial of the Bethpage, the Grumman Airport and the Motor Parkway
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