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Thanks to all with regard to Levi’s Way Inn. I was initially attracted to the photo because of the porcelain signage.  I had never seen a picture of one of those signs in it’s original location. I first turned to the Locust Valley Historical Society to determine the exact location of Levi’s Hotel but after two e-mails and no response, I asked Howard to put it up as a mystery photo. My own opinion of the location is the northeast corner of Forest Ave./Buckram Rd. and Birch Hill Rd.  I believe the view is to the north. Up until a few years ago that corner was occupied for many years by Caminari’s Restaurant. Prior to that it was Weeks Hotel. Will try the L.V. H. S. one more time. Al

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Hi guys. I know this Mystery has been solved, but there’s something about the location of this former Inn that’s stopping me from going to sleep.

The location is believed to be at the intersection of Birch Hill Rd/Buckram Rd. After viewing all 4 corners w/streetview, only the N/W corner makes sense to me. The front of the Inn would have to be facing Birch Hill Rd. The road sign would direct one North towards Bayville,and Jericho towards the South ( even though the arrow for Jericho looks to be SW ). One can travel south down Piping Rock, Wolver Hollow Rd, and then cross Northern Blvd. Then Wheatley Rd leads to Cedar Swamp Rd. Or, head down Brookville Rd, which leads to East Norwich Rd. Either way will lead to Jericho.

If the Inn was at the intersection of present day Bayville Rd/Buckram Rd, then the front of the Inn would be facing Bayville Rd. The road would still direct one North towards Bayville, and then the SW arrow directing to Jericho would still lead towards Piping Rock Rd, etc.

What also led to these thoughts is Art’s photo of the Inn. There’s a wood pole line that presumably runs West and East ( Forest Ave/Buckram Rd ) . You can see the poles to the photo’s left. These poles currently run East and West at the 2 locations I described. Maybe my assumptions don’t jog right with the mileages.  just had to get this out of my head, then go to bed.

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Every time I watch this I keep hoping you will win.  😊
-joe
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Howard Kroplick

Me too!!!

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It looks like 7mi.W to Jericho and 4mi.N to Bayville. This is unlikely because if location is in Oyster Bay, Rt. 106 to Jericho runs south, not west. And that stretch is only 5mi.

My best guess we’re in the heart of Locust Valley near the train station, on Buckram Rd/Forest Av facing west and Birch Hill Rd. Hoping there’s a caption with the photo.

Update: Found it.

https://books.google.com/books?id=rS3GP0GAtXQC&pg=PA54&lpg=PA54&dq=max+levi+way+inn&source=bl&ots=euJ606h-kq&sig=22KgwBUnqeLOMMUenJyVd3-uYjM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjBvcbFr_rVAhViwYMKHSHnBooQ6AEIOjAD#v=onepage&q=max levi way inn&f=false

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Revision to my original response:  The building that occupies Barney’s Restaurant at 315 Buckram Road is not the Way Inn as they both existed around the same time.  And one of the roads where the Way Inn may have been Bayville Road.  Taken from documentation sent to Howard.

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Identify the inn. Max Levi’s Way Inn, originally named Dobbers in Locust Valley (originally named Buckram).

Where is the exact location of the sign? Intersection of Buckram, Oyster Bay and Bayville Roads.  Nassau County tax records show two buildings at that location (315 Buckram Road and 7A Oyster Bay Road) having been built in the 1880s and 1850s, respectively, that may be related to the Way Inn).  Need more evidence to be sure.  More recently Barney’s Restaurant and an antiques shop occupy the buildings.

Which organization placed the sign at the location and when? Long Island Automobile Club to guide racers in the August 9/10 1910 Brooklyn Reliability Run.

Why is this photo historically significant?  Prior mentioned Reliability Run which was a 450 endurance test from the Auto Club’s headquarters in Brooklyn to Montuak Point, Orient Point and everything in between. 

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Formerly called Dobber’s, that’s Max Levi’s Way Inn which was in Locust Valley. I think it was located on the corner of Forest Avenue and Birch Hill Road (Piping Rock Road). The sign was placed there around October, 1900 or early 1901 by the Long Island Automobile Club which was a forerunner of AAA. Among the first porcelain signs, it was part of the first series of road signs to aid travelers.

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Great footage.  Hadn’t seen is Enjoyed the story of this historic game-changer.  Must’ve been a blast to shoot these scenes.

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-Identify the inn.
Max Levi’s Way Inn formerly known as Dobbers

-Where is the exact location of the sign?
Locust Valley (A guess at exact location would be Buckram and Bayville Rds.)

-Which organization placed the sign at the location and when?
Long Island Automobile Club. LIAC placed these signs in 1901.

-Why is this photo historically significant?
Unsure and still looking…can’t wait for the answer!

From Updated: Mystery Foto #34 Solved: A Historic Photo of a Road Sign in Front of Max Levi's Hotel

Sorry, but there ain’t no such beast as a 1929 6.8 litre (26/120/180) S-Modell and that car is definitely an S (low hood line down against the outside pipes).  I don’t know where Bruce McCaw got his date.  Die doppel zweifach Sterne an die Kühlerhaube are from BEFORE the Daimler and Benz merger in 1926.  Only a few very-early 7.1 litre (27/170/225) SS models, produced from 1928 on, were made with the two stars stamped in the radiator shell; but they had a higher hood hinge line, about 50mm above the pipes, to accommodate the bigger engine.  The later M-B combined laurel-leaf-and-star badge centered on the crease of the radiator shell adorned nearly all 1928-on SS but no 1927 S models.  Since all S (and SS) chassis were snapped right up, I rather doubt that the body took two years to complete if started when the car was new; other than the somewhat-unique cut of the driver’s door. the torpedo tubes, and the boat-tail, the body is a stock Sindelfingen Carrosserie product.  Incidentally, while I’m at it, in magnificent Master Nitpicker fashion, no “cut-down ‘half-doors’”; in fact, no half-doors at all.  The full-height passenger side door is stock Sindelfingen and the driver’s door is just notched slightly on a shallow diagonal.  Sindelfingen did produce both full doors and cut-down three-quarter doors as stock.  Some S and SS (especially SSK) sports bodies had half-height cut-outs but they were LeMans-style (jump over and in) with no door at all.  All this notwithstanding, great coverage as usual; thanks.  Sam, III

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Yes, I watched the new series and immediately recognized the footage from the prior series.  Great to see it all again!

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A pleasure to view!

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Awesome Howard, I hope the new spare is holding up! The Black Beast, The Alco.

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Watched all 3 episodes of this series. All very good. I had no idea Mr. Lee Iacocca was the President of The Ford Motor Company. My first ( quite used ) car was a Mustang 2 ( cousin to the Ford Pinto, their 1st “economy car” ). Mr. Henry Ford 2 should have never fired Lee, even though they clashed often. Mr. Iacocca saved Chrysler, he’s a very talented/intelligent man ( 93 yrs old now ). My grandmother had a Dodge Aries K-car, she loved it.

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Omg,I remember this,but can’t place where it is and the signs are leading you to Jericho & Bayviille.The street sign ends with Park.I think this was a meeting place during a race or before one.Is it Max-Levit Way Inn?

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The Way Inn, a saloon owned by Max Levi in Locust Valley, about 1910

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Fuhgeddaboudit!  There’s no jog at Bedford; when working at pixel limits, the eye plays tricks and the red line deviated from the nearly-arrow-straight LIMP RoW, not the other way around.  Sorry.  Sam, III

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Long Island Automobile Club put the sign there, somewhere between Bayville and Jericho I’ll take a wild guess this is East Norwich at Rt 106 where the bend of the 1905 race made the big turn west. Given all the empty barrels on the side of Max Levi’s Way Inn, it looked like a fun place to stop.

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No one responded to my query - what is that wild little jog in the LIMP RoW at Bedford Avenue in Hauppauge (detail “n” on the {soils} map on my site at <http://sbiii.com/limppix/soilmapn.jpg>) all about?  PLEASE.  Sam, III

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Finally got to see this.  What a fascinating, historic piece.  Just great!

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