Vanderbilt Cup Races

-Identify this section of the Motor Parkway
The current Battle Row campgrounds are on the very left edge of the photo, to just slightly East of present day Route 110

-Identify the Motor Parkway bridge(s) that still can be seen in this aerial.
Only the Old Bethpage and Clody bridges (now within the sand pits) are in the photo, and still presently there.

-Identify the location of Motor Parkway bridge(s) in this aerial that had been taken down.
Of the 4 bridges within the borders of this photo; East to West- Claremont St PW Bridge/Old Bethpage PW Bridge/Clody Farm PW Bridge/Broad Hollow Rd Bridge- The Claremont and Broad Hollow bridges were gone by 1950.

-Which Vanderbilt Cup Races were held on this section of the Motor Parkway?
None! The 1908 came closest. The Bethpage lodge was just beyond the left border where the 1908 course turned North.

From Updated: Mystery Foto #35 Solved: A 1950 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Old Bethpage & Melville

Greetings all,

I really enjoyed the article on the Cantrell Brothers. I became aware of them when a friend showed me the header board from his 1924 Dodge Canape truck with their logo on it. Does anyone know where I could get a clear image of the logo to reproduce as a decal for his truck? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Jim Hughes
Coventry, Conn

From From the Hugh Nutting Collection: Insight into the Woodies of Huntington's J.T. Cantrell and Company

This is Bethpage. The LIMP is going through the restoration and the bridge there is visible, moving east through what is now the sand pit, proceeding east to 110.

From Updated: Mystery Foto #35 Solved: A 1950 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Old Bethpage & Melville

Twelve years after the parkway closing, this is the Nassau/Suffolk border between Old Bethpage and Melville. All bridges in this aerial were built in 1910.

Left to right:
Claremont Rd parkway bridge appears intact – now extinct
Old Bethpage parkway bridge (Town of Oyster Bay/Huntington border) – still there today
Clody farmway bridge (Melville sandpits) – still there today
Broad Hollow Rd parkway bridge (Rt 110) appears removed.

No races ran through here. Edith K. had a farm nearby off of Broad Hollow Rd.

From Updated: Mystery Foto #35 Solved: A 1950 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Old Bethpage & Melville

The section between Round Swamp Road and Route 110
The 110 bridge had been removed but the Clody bridge in the sandpit is near top right
As well as the Old Bethpage bridge on the left side with a path leading up to it
at far left was the Claremont Road bridge
None of the Cup races were held here, or anywhere east of Round Swamp Road

From Updated: Mystery Foto #35 Solved: A 1950 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Old Bethpage & Melville

Motor Parkway east of Round Swamp Road. We see the Round Swamp Road bridge, the Claremont Road Bridge and the Bethpage State Park Farmway Bridge, as well as the Melville Sandpit Bridge - the only 2 left are the one in BSP and the sandpit. I dont think any cup races were held there, but maybe some endurance runs.

From Updated: Mystery Foto #35 Solved: A 1950 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Old Bethpage & Melville

Lee C:
I remember seeing that History series in 2012.  Had I only known it was you driving!

From History Channel: The Alco Black Beast in "Cars That Built America: Part I"

Gary M:
I saw that show, that was you and your car. How cool!

From History Channel: The Alco Black Beast in "Cars That Built America: Part I"

Albertson? Between Searingtown rd and Willis Ave?

From Updated: Mystery Foto #35 Solved: A 1950 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Old Bethpage & Melville

Nassau Suffolk Border, starting just east of the Bethpage Lodge on the right to Route 110 on the left.  Bridge in the back of Old Bethpage Village and (in part) inside the sand pits still stand.  The bridges over Clarmont Ave and over Broad Hollow Rd are gone today. 

From Updated: Mystery Foto #35 Solved: A 1950 Aerial of the Motor Parkway in Old Bethpage & Melville

The photo of the crowd near Round Swamp Rd appears to show 2 of the Long Island Auto Club’s signs placed in 1901. These seem to be slightly different though as they show direction to 3 locations rather than the 2 locations seen on other signs.

Last weekend’s mystery photo was supposed to be the only known photo to show the signs in their original locations. Could this be a second photo, or am I incorrect?
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Howard Kroplick

Greg, great catch! See above.

From Motor Parkway and Vanderbilt Cup Races Featured in New Book on Plainview-Old Bethpage

Frank K:

Thanks for the memories. You are a special guardian for such a fine automobile collection. Having the Tucker decedents in attendance certainly enhanced my experience seeing the 1948 Tucker and understanding it’s historical significance. To commentate this day, I propose the Town of Roslyn be known as Tucker Town today!

From Updated: VanderbiltCupRaces.com's Open House at Waterfront at Roslyn Draws a Great Crowd

Great job with the photos, Frank. Good to see Roy K. in 1 of the images ( he stands out in the crowd ). I bet he’s a gentle giant.

From Updated: VanderbiltCupRaces.com's Open House at Waterfront at Roslyn Draws a Great Crowd

Interesting map find Brian. It appears on the Birch Hill/Buckram intersection you can make out the Inn, front porch, side yard, three wood poles in front where the mystery road sign is attached, and the house directly behind the Inn.

I checked a 1906 Belcher-Hyde and all main roads between Bayville and Jericho remain the same today. The shortest distances from Birch Hill Rd/Buckram Rd were 7.3 and 4.0, and from Bayville Rd/Buckram Rd were 7.6 and 3.3.  LIAC were rounding their signs to the nearest mile.

From Updated: Mystery Foto #34 Solved: A Historic Photo of a Road Sign in Front of Max Levi's Hotel

Howard, Jane and I really enjoyed your Open House last week.  Seeing your cars was great, but your personal narratives were the icing on the cake.  The venue and the weather combined to make it a perfect day - well worth the trip from NJ. Thanks for the invitation and give our best to Roz.

From Updated: VanderbiltCupRaces.com's Open House at Waterfront at Roslyn Draws a Great Crowd

Roger M:

Thank you for inviting me to your open house Sunday. I had a great time viewing you automobiles and garage. I enjoyed mostly your stories of each auto. It was also a pleasure meeting your wife Roz. It was a great day!

From Updated: VanderbiltCupRaces.com's Open House at Waterfront at Roslyn Draws a Great Crowd

Dennis Q:

I truly enjoyed my visit at your open house yesterday, Of all the car shows that I promoted over the years, I saw something at your open house that I never though to do. I like the idea of having the owner stand next to his car and talk about it. Thanks again for the invite.

From Updated: VanderbiltCupRaces.com's Open House at Waterfront at Roslyn Draws a Great Crowd

Jim R:
Howard, thank you for Sunday at your Waterfront Garage, I had a great time, Jim

From Updated: VanderbiltCupRaces.com's Open House at Waterfront at Roslyn Draws a Great Crowd

Frank Femenias:

Beautiful cars and turnout at the garage today Howard. Cool to see some of the cars from my youth once again, and those vintage NY plates were amazing, some I’ve never seen before. I believe the Beast stole the show once again. Happy 110th birthday!

Congrats and thanks for a great time on this beautiful day!

From Updated: VanderbiltCupRaces.com's Open House at Waterfront at Roslyn Draws a Great Crowd

Scott S:

Can’t thank you enough for today.  I wanted to say hi. It you were a bit busy.  Amazing collection but the stories are the best.  Would love to meet and learn more.

From Updated: VanderbiltCupRaces.com's Open House at Waterfront at Roslyn Draws a Great Crowd