Vanderbilt Cup Races

I believe this is along Salisbury Park Drive in Westbury, with the pathway in Eisenhower Park looking south (the Red course?), just before the curve in the road veering east towards Newbridge Road. 

The 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races were held along here.

Accident was during the 1910 Cup Race involving driver Harold Stone (survived) and Mechanician Matthew Bacon who tragically lost his life.  Car veered off the Meadowbrook Bridge.

From Mystery Foto #36 Solved: On the Long Island Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Meadow

Thanks Sam, I am always interested to know what is what, and to have it explained so we can all understand it is great. Just from a coachwork standpoint of which I take special interest in, since this is a custom body made specific for an owner anything past the firewall was fair game for change even if the cowl, windshield etc was supplied by the factory, it all could have been altered to suit.

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Walt, I happen to be a bit of a specialist on the 1927-1934 series of S and SS model Mercedes-Benz cars so the little finesses matter to me, as noted at <http://sbiii.com/mercedes.html>, et seq.  The huge predecessor so-gennant “K” cars were drastically lowered in 1927 to create the radical low-slung S model with a monster 6-cylinder 6.8 litre supercharged engine.  The following year, 1928, M-B upped the stroke to get the SS’s 7,020 (“7.1”) litre engine but that exceeded the height of the bonnet so it was raised about 50mm.  The dead give-away is the height of the side hinge line above the top of the outside pipes; the hinge almost sits on the S pipes but clearly is well above them on the SS, as shown at <http://sbiii.com/mercedes.html#didja> or scroll down to DID YOU KNOW DEPARTMENT for the differences between S and SS models.  The S model was not continued into 1928, let alone 1929.  I did note two customizing features up forward on the McCaw car that I’d missed previously, though; the windscreen upper panel is divided and the whole screen is vee’ed and the bonnet top panels are louvred - both non-standard for early stock Sindelfingen bodies.  Later SS sports cars did offer the the upper bonnet panel louvres, as seen on the Trossi car.  [Hey, you asked!]  The ID panel with the body, chassis, and engine serial numbers would tell us for sure; those numbers can be run past the Daimler Museum’s Classic Archiv for verification.  Sam, III

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I think we’re looking east in Eisenhower Park along the park’s border with Salisbury Park Drive. The 1908, 1909, and 1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races all ran through this area. At that time there was a LIMP bridge over Bellmore Road / Newbridge Avenue at this location that driver Harold Stone, in his Columbia racer, failed to negotiate on October 1, 1910, resulting in an accident that killed his mechanician, Matthew Bacon.

From Mystery Foto #36 Solved: On the Long Island Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Meadow

Jim Barnes:

The mystery photo is a part of the motor parkway adjacent to the American legion hall where the greater by car club meets. At this min I am not sure of the town, but t will send it later today.

From Mystery Foto #36 Solved: On the Long Island Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Meadow

The Jaguar and MG show today was fabulous!  Sorry you were not there.  We had a great time with great people and cars.  Thanks again for the invite to your shop 2 weeks ago.  Mitch Hackett.
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Howard Kroplick

Sorry that I missed it…I had a family commitment.

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The toll house looks like the one at Rosevale Avenue

From Great Turnout to the Presentation on Ronkonkoma and the Motor Parkway in Holbrook

Sam, educate us all, tell us the differences in the chassis/cowl etc between the 1927 and 1929 Mercedes. Why is it a strictly 1927? What should be be looking for or at to see the differences?
thanks, Walt

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Motor Parkway Inn
Poe and it was used as a place for the Triianon workers and later as an Inn and then as an old age home
The steps were the nine “court house” steps from the Trianon to the sea cliff
The Parkway Inn was located on Lake Drive between Washington Ave and Rosevale Ave.
The building was the Trianon in 1958 after the fire
The property was bought for the construction of a race track
The other photos I can’t recall

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Eisenhower Park.  I have a story about it in the movie.

From Mystery Foto #36 Solved: On the Long Island Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Meadow

my 2 cents….LIMP row in Eisenhower Park, specifically what is the golf course today. Facing east near Stewart Ave /Salisbury Park Drive.
I believe both Willie K and George V both used this strip.
Accident? maybe the 1910?

From Mystery Foto #36 Solved: On the Long Island Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Meadow

Wheatley Hill GC, East Williston, NY   facing South East.
The fourth tee heading to the fourth green. It’s a par five with a dog leg to the right; uphill to boot.

From Mystery Foto #36 Solved: On the Long Island Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Meadow

Say what you will, that S-Modell’s no 1929 car!  The minimal special bodywork back aft may well be but the cowl, bonnet, grille, and chassis are strictly 1927!  The engine and chassis serial numbers should clarify that beyond question.  Send them along to the Daimler-Benz Museum Classic Archiv for verification.  Sam, III

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I now what you mean,you can only think about it,right?,only if I could

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This looks so familiar,now to figure out where it is,then I’ll know the rest of it,wish me luck.

From Mystery Foto #36 Solved: On the Long Island Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Meadow

-Identify this location and the orientation
Looking East in Eisenhower Park towards present Salisbury Park Drive at the location of the Newbridge Ave parkway bridge.

-Which Vanderbilt Cup Races were held in this location?
1908,1909, 1910 races

-Which major race accident occurred in this location?
USA’s Harold Stone, driving the #12 Columbia in the 1910 VCR, ran off the bridge killing his mechanician William Bacon during the first lap.

From Mystery Foto #36 Solved: On the Long Island Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Meadow

Golf cart path in Eisenhower Park - looking towards east toward Salisbury Park Drive. Is it confirmed that this is the LIMP ROW? I tend to think this is it, or very close. Wayne’s map doesn’t show it aligning with the cart path but when on site it does seem to correspond with where the LIMP would be based on the toll lodge remnants at nearby NYCB building.

I sent Howard an interesting pic of a “road” that leads into this location, not sure if it’s significant but it’s worth looking at!

From Mystery Foto #36 Solved: On the Long Island Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Meadow

Eisenhower Park, looking East.  Golf path.  The house we see on the left, through the trees and chain link fence is on Salisbury Park Drive, it is the third house north of the corner of Ladenburg Drive.  1908 Race only.

From Mystery Foto #36 Solved: On the Long Island Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Meadow

Wow,what cars they are. You probably wish you had them.
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Howard Kroplick

Ted, simple answer: Yes!!!!

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When I was young my father would take us to this museum from Plainview NY.. I loved looking at these great looking cars. My favorite ones were the Squad as & the old fire engine which we use to climb in the back & ride around the museum grounds..

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