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Edith Klarmann:

Thanks…

There… now you have it.  Both St Rose and my farmhouse correctly identified.  And, having lived there for the time when we did, every time I look at the foto I can almost see a bit more than is actually revealed; that is, everything from what we referred to as the “Big Barn”, to differentiate from the older barn, the “Yellow Barn”, then, “Chicken Coop” at the end of the path leading off the one to the “Big House”, which it was, and until WW2 the bell on top thereof would chime out for the noon and evening prayers which could be heard quite clearly.  And, for a last look at the map, to recall that until the mid fifties, except for the Noheil farm at the corner of Ruland and New Highway (Republic Rd), our closest neighbor was the Hairstons (house still visible near start on Colonial Springs Rd).

But enough of this memory lane… before my memory starts to fill in the missing bits and pieces.  Thanks again… Edith

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What a great turnout of people….

From Highlights from the Alco Black Beast at the 2018 Garden City Easter Sunday Vintage Car Parade

This is Lakeville Road & Marcus Avenue in Lake Success. The House is the Deepdale Vanderbilt Estate in Lake Success.One of the bridges is the Limp farm bridge over the Northern State Parkway. Great stuff. Thanks,Gene Perry

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There is a long section of pavement north of the last location shown just above a LIPA substation on the east side of bagatelle road in Butterfly Park. The LIMP then crosses over bagatelle road near threepence drive and a paved curve of the roadway still exists with posts between several houses on the right side of bagatelle as it makes its way north . Near the entrance of chestnut hill elementary school is a large pile of roadway put there when constructing the school. This is just south of the L.I.E.

This area is one of the best places to discover the old roadway still intact and undocumented. I have never seen any photos , past or present, of this area on this site or any other site. It should be explored and posted more. Its worth the trip for any motorparkway fan.

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Love this. Awesome stuff Sam and Dave!! I can’t forget to mention Rob Miller, Sam III, Ron Ridolf, Howard, and others I failed to mention to make this all happen. You guys rock!

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-Identify the location and orientation
Looking Easterly at Northern State Parkway construction in New Hyde Park

-Identify the parkways, roads and bridges
The upper bridge is the New Hyde Park road bridge over the new NSP. The lower bridge is the Moses constructed Motor Parkway bridge

-What date was the Mystery Foto taken? Provide a rationale.
The bridges were constructed in 1931- so that would be a safe guess on the photo’s date.

-Who was the owner of the estate located in the right corner of the aerial?
“Northcourt” in North Hills, built in 1918 for Lawrence Hobart Shearman Esq., Vice President at W.R. Grace by architect James O’Connor.

-What is the current use of the building?
Since 1955, it has been Buckley Country Day School

-Which 2003 hit movie was filmed in this building?
School of Rock starring Jack Black

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Dave- Edith’s childhood farmhouse was south of Ruland Rd and just north of the Huntington town line (first house in Huntington). The earlier aerial sent was for the two locations of the Huntington lodge (1930, 1947) just to the north of Edith. After the lodge was moved from its original location to the south in 1947, it became Maureen’s childhood home in the lodge.

Edith- I’m sending another aerial copy of the farmhouse with proper labels using a red circle. After you verify the correction, I’ll create an overlay of your home to view where it stood in today’s Costco parking lot. I believe it actually stood in the still vacant lot just south of Costcos. The farmhouse foundation may still be there. Also sending more 1947 aerials of Ruland Rd heading east towards Colonial Springs Rd (a trip down memory lane).

Stay tuned Dave for more possible exploration sites!

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Dave,  you’ve probably seen these on my site and/or been there already:
http://www.freewebs.com/limparkway/mineolawestburyave1.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/limparkway/mineolawestburyavenue.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/limparkway/mineolawestburyave2015.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/limparkway/mineolawestburyave2016.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/limparkway/mineolawestburyaveso.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/limparkway/oldcountryroad.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/limparkway/stewartavenuegardencity.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/limparkway/levittownsalisburypkdr.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/limparkway/wyandanch.htm

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NSP.  Looking east over the LIMP bridge built by Robert Moses, and New Hyde Park Rd further behind it.

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Edith and Dave, etc. - re Dave’s continuance, you folks might have a look at my Half Hollow Hills coverage from 2002 at <http://sbiii.com/limpsuff.html#halfholl> (scroll ‘way down, past the missing images).  Sam, III

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Edith, the location you speak of approaching Colonial Springs Rd is coming up next in our HIKE. Stay tuned!

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Edith Klarmann:

Thank you…

You are absolutely correct - there is now nothing to see.  The property was sold in 1987 and now has the same characteristics as that of the sand pit off Route 110.  For my part, I was responding to the 1947 (or
thereabouts) aerial view and correcting the locations identified.  What I did say was that if there was anything left to see, based upon personal knowledge I thought that would most likely be the area behind the former Haiorston’s property at the beginning of Colonial Springs Rd… even back then in the late forties there was a foot path leading to and from the rear of the house—nothing more, just a small journey from yesteryear, and for which I am appreciative.

What I can also tell you of that time is how isolated we were. Even though we were on Broad Hollow Rd / Route 110; for example, the LILCO poles were all numbered, with the one directly across from the house was No.50 or 51, and for calling for Police, it was the State Troopers or Huntington Town, though the preference was for the Troopers as they were all well turned out, but then this is about the LIMP which I continue to follow in the expectation that information might appear which will be of interest to me.

Edith

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Frank—-so you think Edith’s house was SOUTH of Ruland Road? This is not in line with the previous sketch you made which was just south of the LIMP, north of Ruland Road.

If you are now correct, there is definitely nothing to see here at this time. This exact location SOUTH of Ruland Road is now is a humongous COSTCO parking lot and store. Certainly no remnants.

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Howard, you are a master of making people smile and be happy with your cars! Think of how the memories that were made that day will last forever with the people that experienced the Black Beast. I wish I was recovered enough to have attended.

From Highlights from the Alco Black Beast at the 2018 Garden City Easter Sunday Vintage Car Parade

Edith Klarmann:

Frank,
As described… within little square box, just the other side (North) of the large white rectangular white box, is my farmhouse… that larger white rectangular box being a cultivated farm field.  Further, the South saide of the Woods being the Southern boundary of St Rose.  Now, to complete the search, moving along Ruland Rd should then show the LIMP to iots Left or North side til the LIMP then crosses over Ruland, picking up the LIMP towards the beginning of Colonial Springs Road might havethe odd artifact considerng the remoteness.  In any case, thanks again.

Edith

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Edith Klarmann:

Thanks Frank…
 
Very close… so, let me see if I can bring it all into focus:
 
  1) as to Edith’s Farmhouse: starting with Broad Hollow Rd North—just past that large white block on the East side is that white square, where, just inside is the farmhouse, then on the far side (North) follow that white path to where it then turns North to the clump of buildings.  Then, re-orienting at Ruland Rd, leading off is what appear as a pair of arms terminating at the white block, which is St Rose (the Big House as we called it, our green shingled farmhouse was the Green House).  As to the Schmidt and deLalio farms, the foto does not go far enough East to include them.  However, again to the bottom of the foto, there is that black path of trees (here, we referred to that as the “woods”, everything had a name).  At the far end of the woods was Republic Rd, which was about the boundary of the two farms on the East side of Ruland Rd.  All in all, close enough to say: give the man a cigar.
     
2) And since we have gone back in time to around the mid forties, perhaps someone recalls a Grumman TBF crashing in Wyandanch late in the War.  Actually, as I recall, unless there were two, that TBF crashed into the line of trees bordering the West side of Republic Rd on St Rose property, for, if he was jus a few feet higher, the TBF would have landed in St Rose’ potato patch.  Anyway, thought that I should make note of that before I forget it something else as happens with the passage of time—now being just shy of 81.
Again, thanks all for helping me relive that time, if only in fotos.
 
Edith

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Frank Femenias:

After scanning the Melville area in 1947, I may have found Edith’s farmhouse. Keeping my fingers crossed. See above overlay.

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Maureen- This website may have info on your property. Hope it helps.
http://www.suffolkcountyny.gov/Departments/CountyClerk/OnlineRecords.aspx

Edith- If I read your directions correctly, I may have found your farmhouse and neighbors in 1947. This was the first house north of the Huntington boundary along Brush Hollow Rd. See attached photo and please let me know.

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Edith Klarmann:

Maureen,
Time wise… did not go to school in the area, and didn’t know a Abramowski.  we were quite isolated being at the Southern extreme of Huntington Township—property following ours South on Broad Hollow Rd was in Babylon Town, and except for the Nohiles, deLalios and Hairstons didn’t know any others.
Edith,

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Hello all…is there any thought regarding the Sugar Maple Drive area in Albertson? I am an employee of the Viscardi Center and have often thought about how far that arc actually swung out, i.e. that there may be some remnants near the now track, in the wooded area.

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