Vanderbilt Cup Races

Howard I hope you make it up the hill on Sunday. Good luck, hope you don’t overheat with the hot weather

From Update: The Alco Black Beast Conquers the Port Jefferson Hill Climb!

Howard   Isn’t this mystery 34? Seen these pictures so many times,but what two bridges are they?very confusing,I should really know this one with no problem

From Mystery Foto #34 Solved: The Long Island Motor Parkway in East Meadow Looking East From Merrick Ave.

-Identify this section of the Motor Parkway and its orientation

This is a view looking southwest of the “Meadowbrook” parkway bridge over Newbridge Avenue (Bellmore Road) in East Meadow.

-Identify the structures in the photo

The “Meadowbrook” parkway bridge, the Stewart Avenue Bridge, and of course, the windmill of the Ladenburg property can be seen in the background.

-What was the approximate date of the photo? Provide a rationale.

September 1908
The LIMP is not completed. There are no guardrails yet. Also, zooming in it looks like our familiar photographers Buick on top of the bridge in the background and we know the date from the other photos from on top of the Carmen Ave bridge and also a photo of the Buick and assistant on top of Westbury Road Bridge.

From Mystery Foto #34 Solved: The Long Island Motor Parkway in East Meadow Looking East From Merrick Ave.

Amazing photo Frank !!!  The closest one i’ve seen to the Newbridge (avenue or East Meadow Avenue bridge) ... Looking eastward from Merrick Avenue Bridge. The Ladenburg windmill is on the left and the Stewart Avenue Bridge is to the right of the trees. I would say the picture is circa 1910 because the dirt looks fresh around the road and the farm is intact. I recently passed this area while entering Eisenhower Park from Stewart Avenue and one of the putting greens on the left seems to have the same hilly curve as the bridge once did, nice to speculate that but its a shame that they dont let the bike path through this part. Mike

From Mystery Foto #34 Solved: The Long Island Motor Parkway in East Meadow Looking East From Merrick Ave.

Hugh Nutting,
I had a friend from back in the day with the name Hugh Nutting. I live in Longmont/Mead Colorado and he lived around Carter Lake. I’ve been trying to locate him and was wondering if you happened to be him or knew of him. if you have any information can you please shoot me an email: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address).

From From the Hugh Nutting Collection: Insight into the Woodies of Huntington's J.T. Cantrell and Company

From Jan Hyde:

Thermos bottle keeps drinks cool in the summer, warm in the winter.  How does it know???

From “Thermos The Bottle” Truck at the 1909 Vanderbilt Cup Race & Wacky Marketing Mobiles

As a young teenager in the mid 1950’s my parents would take me to a large Sands Point estate (Guggenheim?) that was then a country club owned by IBM——-owned by IBM til at least the mid 1960’s Anything you can share about that property would be appreciated.
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From Howard Kroplick

The property is now the Village of Sands Point Golf Club:
http://www.villageclub.org/history;jsessionid=A175930A06AB0F5B69AB1FF1850CE779

From Then & Now: Alva Vanderbilt Belmont's Beacon Towers in Sands Point

What’s going on here,just three of us gave it a try?

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved: Kaiserzinn Inkstand of a Lorraine-Dietrich Racing Car Circa 1907 Updated

....and the practice still exists today.  Coincidentally, returning to L.I. today traveling on Route 91 in Connecticut we passed an [Oscar Mayer] Weinermobile!

From “Thermos The Bottle” Truck at the 1909 Vanderbilt Cup Race & Wacky Marketing Mobiles

Every time I see the Thermos car (and now the Rowney “pencil van”), it reminds me of “Shirley Lois, Moon Girl”, the 1929 Hungerford rocket car, <http://sbiii.com/champlc3.html#roketcar> of my mis-spent youth!  Sam, III

From “Thermos The Bottle” Truck at the 1909 Vanderbilt Cup Race & Wacky Marketing Mobiles

The cars that I picked that I though would be the one are’nt,so I’m giving up on this one. I thought it was a Thomas Locomobile or Abbott Detroit,they don’t look like it

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved: Kaiserzinn Inkstand of a Lorraine-Dietrich Racing Car Circa 1907 Updated

Out of all these cars I like the Pegasus and the Python,the Mustang11 is nice,the shape of the front is nice,somehow the headlights don’t look right,but no doubt yours is the best,it looks like a true 60s Mustang,just shorter with a change to the rear.

From The Kings of the Ford Custom Car Caravan

Best of luck with future finds!

From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent Motor Parkway Adventure” III: Searingtown

This is a German made inkstand designed and manufactured by Kaiser Zinn (also spelled Kayserzinn), ca. 1907.
It shows a 1907 Lorraine-Dietrich racing car, with 2 inkwells under the hood, and storage for postage stamps under the spare tires.  In front, running alongside the car is the pen tray.

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved: Kaiserzinn Inkstand of a Lorraine-Dietrich Racing Car Circa 1907 Updated

The bronze probably shows the winning combination of the 1906 Circuit des Ardennes: Arthur Duray on a Lorraine-Dietrich with number 7.  About the artist I wouldn’t know, but I guess it was not a prize but just an ‘objet d’art’ for daily use. Such objects were indeed rather popular during these days and are very valuable now if original.

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved: Kaiserzinn Inkstand of a Lorraine-Dietrich Racing Car Circa 1907 Updated

Good job on this one Howard, I might even drive by their when I come to visit my daughter in October. Now to get to the mystery weekend

From Then & Now: Maple Cottage- The Locomobile Headquarters for the 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Races

This inkwell / deskset was manufactured in Germany by Kaiserzinn (Kaizer Zinn) in 1907. It shows the Lorraine-Dietrich racer with Arthur Duray driving (probably with his mechanician Franville). It was most likely based on illustrations done by well known French illustrator Ernest Montaut (1879-1909) who produced several images of the winner of the 1906 Circuit des Ardennes. The V. C. R. connection is: Duray competed for 2 Vanderbilt Cups, finishing 9th. in 1905 and 3rd. in 1906.

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved: Kaiserzinn Inkstand of a Lorraine-Dietrich Racing Car Circa 1907 Updated

Elizabeth Vanderwall Wesstrom youngest grandchild of the Dennelley’s daughter of Ethel Nora Vanderwall.  So thrilled to see the history go on for others! We have Jack Binder to thank for this as well.
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From Howard Kroplick:

Elizabeth, thanks for commenting on your family’s home!

Enjoy,

Howard

From Then & Now: Maple Cottage- The Locomobile Headquarters for the 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Races

I have thre possible cars picked out,now to find out which one might be the right one

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved: Kaiserzinn Inkstand of a Lorraine-Dietrich Racing Car Circa 1907 Updated

Please note Maple Cottage was a private home and never an inn as referred to
in the above article.

From The Amazing and Continuing Saga of the 1906 Locomobile Twins- Part I