Vanderbilt Cup Races

That side view at top makes the car look enormously long.  I didn’t remember it being THAT long and that got me curious and so I checked.  According to your specs, the Bête Noir has “only” a 134” wheelbase.  Just for examples readily to hand, the Chas. Adams 1927 S-Modell Mercedes driven in the old-car parade had a 147.6” w/b, my 1931 CG Chrysler Imperial 8 had a 145” w/b, and my 1949 C-46 Chrysler NYer 8s had 131½” w/bs (but the NYers had long rear overhangs).  Your 1938 C-19 Chrysler’s Chrysler 8 has a 144” w/b and also a long rear overhang.  [Just what everyone needs to know, eh?]  Appearances sure are deceiving!  Sam, III

From Highlights from the Long Island Jewish Medical Center Drive-By Parade, Sunday, June 14, 2020

Looking west over Marcus Avenue, Lake Success. NSP, Lakeville Rd. (cup race road, and the remains of LIMP can be seen, as well as the beginnings of Fawn Ridge, Olive St., and Tanners Rd. The Deepdale mansion and guest lodge can be seen in the picture.

By deduction, this picture has to be taken after 1951 and before 1953.
The 1951 NYC aerial that includes this part of Nassau County still shows the two eastbound NSP exits to Marcus Avenue, whereas this photo shows only some remains of exit that was discontinued.

The parking lot to the west of the oval is larger than the lot in the 1951 aerial.
North of NSP houses that were built in 1953 (Zillow) have yet to be constructed and the transaction that enabled this development dates to 12/1951. Given this narrow window, the picture must be from Summer 1952.

The cars parked are Sperry employees because the United Nations had left the site in May, 1951. A picture dated 5/18/1951 looking N from slightly behind the western edge of the U.N. temporary HQ building, posted by the Brazil Mission UN (pic.twitter.com/xSSmRl5KtS), shows some of the features of the mystery photo, with matching trees slightly shorter.

This answer supports some comments to the Mystery Foto #28 of July 11, 2016. That post states the UN had its headquarters from 1946 to 1952, a common misstatement that some there correct. That photo must be from before 1951 as the current eastbound exit does not yet exist as some commenters also note there.

In that post, two other pictures are listed as “Sperry Plant, circa 1952,” which also appear elsewhere on this site so labeled. While the second picture is consistent to 1952, the first picture with the country flags cannot be from that year as the country flags had been removed by 1952. From trees that are visible, the flags picture is pre-1950 and likely from 1946-47. Apologies, if this error was corrected in a later post that I did not see.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

View is NW above Lake Success NY. Lakeville Rd was part of the 1905 & 1906 VCR’s. North of Marcus Ave. must have been additional parking for the United Nations, they were housed within the Sperry Plant   1946 thru 1952. Think they stayed a little longer than 1952. This mystery foto shows the onset of Tanners Rd & Olive St. The 1952 aerial below still shows farmland. The 1956 aerial shows full development. So I’m guessing 1954. Hope my wording on the aerial answers the other questions ????

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

We are looking northwest over Marcus Avenue in the North New Hyde Park / Lake Success area. In addition to Marcus Avenue, there is also Lakeville Road and the Northern State Parkway. The 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race course utilized this portion of Lakeville Road. The 1906 race also used Lakeville Road but that section is just out of the picture to the north. We can see the LIMP bridge over the NSP, Willie K’s Deepdale Estate, possibly the remnants of an abutment for the bridge over Marcus Avenue, and a small section of the LIMP itself. I thought the Great Neck lodge would be visible but it must be just off the right side. Judging by the cars in the photo, I would guess the date to be about 1954. If this date is accurate, then the cars all belong to employees of Sperry Gyroscope, located on the south side of Marcus Avenue. The U. N. Headquarters had moved to their new site in 1951.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Looking NW over confluence of LIMP, NSP, Marcus, and Lakeville with both bridges over NSP visible, Lake Success beyond, and Willie’s Deepdale mansion deep in der voods.  Parking for nascent UN at Sperry or for war-time Sperry?  LIMP RoW barely visible to E of Lakeville at right margin (1/3-way down).  Anothe rgret pic; thanks.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

That “shack” in the first small pic is almost-certainly a pump house.  Sam, III

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 2 - Motorcycling on the Motor Parkway

Yeeks!  Just think about it.  That was a 50 year span; it is now SEVENTY-THREE (*73*) years later!  Whooie - was Shaw ever sexist!  Sam, III

From Update: The 1946 VMCCA Jubilee Anniversary at the Mineola Fair Grounds

Location is Lake Success Ny view west
2. Lakeville Road crossing Northern State Parkway, Marcus Ave is parallel left to Northern State Parkway
3. Motor Parkway far right to be crossing Lakeville Road and crossing Northhern State Parkway concealed by foliage upper left
4 upper right by the bordering east side of lake are the 2 building associated with the Vandebilt races and william K Vanderbilt Jr
5 Automobiles parked for Sperry Rand and overflow from UN temporary building
6 photo taken about 1951, new lighting( Taller poles) on Northern State Parkway and newly constructed exit ramp , original was closer to Lakeville Road

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Looking northeast from Marcus Avenue from the “entrance/exit Ave to the eastbound Northern State Parkway for Lakeville Rd.  very near my office in the Lake Success Quadrangle (of the future). The Motor Parkway Bridge is visible, as are Lake Success and the entrance/exit to the Sperry Rand facilities on the other side of Marcus Avenue. It’s hard for me, with my eyes, to discern whether any of the parked cars are “modern” (1946-1950). If so, the Sperry facilities became the temporary HQ Secretariat of the UN; there’s a plaque there today.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

The back parking lot sits on the old motor parkway.
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Howard Kroplick

Mark, you are correct: https://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/mystery_friday_foto_38_where_in_the_world_is_this_section_or_the_long_islan

From Highlights from the Long Island Jewish Medical Center Drive-By Parade, Sunday, June 14, 2020

great video - one of the cars in the film was a 1910 Mercedes town car that I bought with a partner at a Auction at the Javits Center in NYC, in early 1990’s
The 1947 Glidden Tour (second of the revised tour, 1946 was the first)
started in Hartford
there was a car display in the State Armony and a special CT license plate was issued for the month of Sept 1947

From Update: The 1946 VMCCA Jubilee Anniversary at the Mineola Fair Grounds

I have a sense of deja vu this morning, since I know I’ve done this before, but I am interested in making contact with Hugh Nutting. I knew Hugh as kid and near neighbor in Midland, MI, and later, when we had both returned for a time to Midland in the 60s. Our shared interest in cars took different paths, but keeps crossing. If it is possible to give me contact information for Hugh, I would be very grateful.

From The New Features of VanderbiltCupRaces.com

From Art Kleiner
Lake Success, looking northwest
Northern State Parkway, Marcus Avenue, Lakeville Road
Willie K’s Deepdale estate and garage, and the Marcus Avenue Motor Parkway Bridge
Parking for the Sperry Corporation building across the street
Picture taken in 1952 - the entrance/exit ramps to the Northern State were not there in a 1950, picture, the extra Sperry parking appeared in 1951, and the homes north of The Northern State and east of Lakeville Road were built in 1953.  The attached photo from Dec. 1951 doesn’t even show the beginnings of the roads in the development but the mystery photo does, but no homes. 

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Looking Northwest at Lake Success. Main roads are Lakeville Rd, upper right to left, bisecting Northern State parkway and Marcus Avenue underneath. I believe you can see the Robert Moses Motor Parkway Bridge over Northern state pkwy, and I imagine, the LIMP was used for the race.Vanderbilt structures include the bridge/motor parkway, Deepdale estate, near the lake.
I believe the cars are parked outside of the Sperry Gyroscope plant.
Date of photo, after 1941 when Sperry plant was built, but likely prior to 1953, as there are no houses on Tanners road in the picture.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

This is definitely Northern state pkwy and Marcus Ave in Lake Success.The parked cars are for the United Nations.The entrance off Marcus and circular drive are for the UN.The road running left to right in center of photo is Lakeville Rd.Orientation is looking North-North west. The estate hiding in the woods is Vanderbilt’s “Deepdale”.The body of water is Lake Success and beyond that is the Deepdale golf course.The UN was there from 1946-1952.The new roads off Marcus and North of the parkway are Tanners road and Olive street.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

From Art Kleiner:
Looks like the special officers and flagmen had to wait a while until they got paid by Nassau County for their 2 days work during the 1908 races . . . “The Motor World”, January, 1909

From A Keystone View of the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Why all the vibration in the video?
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Howard Kroplick

Camera is mounted near the engine. A stabilizer is on order.

From Video: Take a Ride in the Alco Black Beast for the 2020 Nassau County Memorial Day Parade

1) orientation of photographer is facing west
2) Lakeville Rd, Marcus ave, Northern State Pkwy
3) Lakeville Rd 1905 cup race
4) Deepdale Mansion, Northern state pkwy Motor pkwy bridge, remnants of the LIMP on the far right of photo. Just out of the right side frame was the LIMP toll house
5) Overflow parking for Sperry and the United Nations headquarters
6) 1951or 1952. The new housing development on the right side of the photo was built in 1953. This was from research of home listings for sale on Olive st and Tanners rd which lists the year the homes were built. The streets have been made so homes were soon to follow. A 1950 aerial photo shows no roads in the housing development

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

The photographer is looking northwest over the village of Lake Success. That’s Marcus Avenue on the left. In the middle is the entrance/exit ramp from Marcus Avenue to the Northern State Parkway. The parkway is to the right of the ramp, and Lakeville Road can be seen above the parkway.

I see that Lakeville Road was part of the course of the 1906 VCR. Is that Willie K.‘s Deepdale mansion barely visible between Lakeville Road and the lake?

Sperry Gyro had a building near this area for many years. My brother worked there for a long time. The building was temporarily the home of the United Nations from 1946 to 1951. I would say that the picture was taken around 1955, judging by the cars. I have no idea why the cars were parked there. Overflow from the Sperry parking lot?

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Looks like an aerial of the exit and entrance ramp of the Northern State pleat at Marcus Ave. 
you can see the VMP as it crosses Lakeville Rd..
looks like Vanderbilt Lake Success home is visible as well as his golf course.
Year looks to be mid-1940’s
Cars parked in side of road were overflow parking for sperry’s, United Nations or League of Nations building . Mid forties.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success