Vanderbilt Cup Races

Art, possibly “Cellar Star”, and below it, “Garfield Tson…” I’ve seen the Garfield ad posted elsewhere in an early 1900s photo, and written the same way.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Here’s the matching real photo postcard.

From Kleiner's Korner: The 1938 Regional Plan Association Update

From Art Kleiner:
Speaking of Lake Success - I came across this undated Lazarnick photo in the Detroit Library Digital Collection and wonder if anyone can help date it.  Possibly the advertising signs on the utility pole can offer some clues but I can’t make them out.  If I didn’t know better I would have thought the top most sign is promoting a cellular start-up!  Maybe someone was way ahead of their time!

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Sam, sorry I meant pre LIE and NSP, where old IUW Rd meets today’s Bates Rd in Lake Success, just east of the Queens line

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Love the proposed bike path from the western terminus to the Garden City lodge! Where can I sign up?

From Kleiner's Korner: The 1938 Regional Plan Association Update

Art, I believe the pictured bridge is the Smith farmway bridge just east of the Great Neck lodge.

From Kleiner's Korner: The 1938 Regional Plan Association Update

I finally found the missing 03 Apr 2000 pic of NSP from IUW and restored it at <http://sbiii.com/limpkwy4.html#oldcthrd>.  Yes, you CAN see through to NSP, but not terribly well!  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Frank, the extant western end of IUW Rd. is the present driveway for the Buckley School and camp, a private way.  My pic from the far end at <http://sbiii.com/limpkwy4.html#oldcthrd> is missing but, as I recall, you can see through to NSP there.  It’s only some 50 yards from 90 IUW Rd. to NSP.  Howard, care to start a new thread?  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Sam - IU Willets Rd history sounds an interesting subject. Its RoW was included on the Motor Parkway online map in pale blue, along with other roadways no longer existing. Appears Moses dismembered and paved over it with LIE and NSP. I would like to investigate if Bates Rd was once the same IU Willets. Perhaps an old Hagstom can clarify this.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

I missed the origin of this thread but, since John M. reactivated it, take a gander at my Chrysler Page 5 <http://sbiii.com/chryslr5.html#powerwgn> and LI Page 3 <http://sbiii.com/longis-3.html#fultcant> re both Cantrell AND Campbell woodies.  Whil(e)(st) there, please consider the term “Carryall” vs. “Suburban”, brake, van, etc.  Did Dodge, itself, ever use “Suburban” as a tradename back then?  Found this neat ‘49 Dodge Suburban woodie on line.  Sam, III

From From the Hugh Nutting Collection: Insight into the Woodies of Huntington's J.T. Cantrell and Company

Dang - missed the guesthouse-cum-barracks!  That VCR course map reminds me that we have studiously ignored ol’ Isaac Underhill Willets (although NOT his son, Edwin C. - Myst. Foto #17 of 30 Apr 2018) and the eponymous road that has been so truncated over the years; see my LIMP Page 3, <http://sbiii.com/limpkwy2.html#IUW>, for a bit more.  [Just blew a Myst. Foto!]  I, for one, would enjoy a blog just on the full length of the old I. U. Willets Road.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

The 1925 Dodge Suburban you restored wouldn’t happen to be dark blue with light blue trim on wheels and light blue dashboard would be

From From the Hugh Nutting Collection: Insight into the Woodies of Huntington's J.T. Cantrell and Company

Great answers by all; more technical history was learned here. The additional aerial was great help Howard! It help fill the scenario of the mystery photo. Thank you Howard and everyone for your knowledge of this early Long Island history.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

The 2 maps below MAY show where Mr. Baruch had a bridge built over the LIMP for easier access to his Nursery. What I point out as a bridge is quite faint, but is near the intersection of the LIMP & Bagatelle Rd. I haven’t luck lately locating 1938 aerials within the Stony Brook Collection, recall those maps being pretty clear. The terrain is high in this area, must have been tricky constructing the bridge. Old ads describe the main entrance to the Nursery on Bagatelle Rd. Any chance this bridge was noted on a updated Motor Pkwy Atlas?

From Kleiner's Korner: Part V - Motor Parkway Maps and More

From Art Kleiner:
Information pertaining to the participation of motorcyclists in the 1904, 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Races has been added at the beginning of this post.

From Kleiner's Korner: UPDATE: Part 1 - Motorcycles Used during the Vanderbilt Cup Races and on The Motor Parkway

All this old blog searching turned up a reference, in the 25 Sep 2009 post, “Film ‘The Long Island Automotive Museum’” to Austie having owned a Bugatti Royale (Type 41).  Not so’s I recall.  Didn’t want to reopen the 2009 thread so I’ll put it here.  He MIGHT have had a Type 46 or 50 which had those same (or similar) giant one-piece wheels and so looked much like a Royale, although I don’t remember any such, either, and doubt it.  I do remember seeing a 46 or 50 out there once, but I don’t think it was in the collection, only visiting or loaned.  Any corroboration?  Sam, III

From Highlights from the Long Island Jewish Medical Center Drive-By Parade, Sunday, June 14, 2020

Oog!  When I goof, I goof BIG!  The ‘27 Mercedes S was NOT 147.6” w/b but “only” 134” w/b, as I note on the 1946 VMCCA Jubilee/Mineola Fair Grounds blog.  Sorry ‘bout that.  Also, the old car parade to which I refer here was the one out at Austie Clark’s 1948 museum opening in Southampton (I theenk), not the ‘46 one.  By the way, purists, he was very much known as “Austie”, even by Wally, and not just because I say so - see attached invitation to the opening (from this site).  Sam, III

From Highlights from the Long Island Jewish Medical Center Drive-By Parade, Sunday, June 14, 2020

Hmm.  There’s a white 134” wheelbase 1927 S or 1928-30 SS Modell Mercedes, as I noted in the LIJ Highlights blog post (q.v.), pulling away from the throng at 0:34 - 0:38 in parade sequence and (blurrily) at 1:13 in the race sequence, but it’s NOT Chas. Addams’ car.  Wonder whose it was.  Sam, III

From Update: The 1946 VMCCA Jubilee Anniversary at the Mineola Fair Grounds

This amazing crispy photo is over Lake Success looking WNW. A good portion of Vanderbilt Deepdale Estate’s 560 acres is viewed in the jungle area and more. Marcus Av bottom left, NSP bottom right, Lakeville Rd and bridge in the center, Motor Pkwy bridge hiding behind Lakeville Rd, Great Neck lodge entrance/exit ramp at extreme right center. Lakeville Rd was once used in a VCR race. Deepdale Estate and Guest lodge (later NYS Police Barracks), LIMP bridge west over NSP (built by Robert Moses), Great Neck lodge entrance/exit ramp, all associated with Willie K and the Motor Pkwy. Autos parked beside Marcus Av possibly for additional parking for the UN Headquarters or Sperry. Year of photo is tricky, will try to come back for more.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Great seeing this 1946 race footage (2 months after I was born).  It’s unlikely I got to see it in person, having spent the day instead on Ave M in Brooklyn - while family & friends listened to the Dodger game at nearby Ebbets Field!

From Update: The 1946 VMCCA Jubilee Anniversary at the Mineola Fair Grounds