The six Vanderbilt Cup Races held on Long Island from 1904 to 1910 were the greatest sporting events of their day, and the first international automobile road races held in the United States. The races had a far-reaching impact on the development of American automobiles and parkways. This site provides comprehensive information on the races, the Long Island Motor Parkway and current Long Island automotive events, car shows and news.
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New thread for sure!
Al-The true ending of IUW was at the t-intersection (arrow in the 1900 USGS map overlaid on current map), where it met the N-S Valley Rd (Community Dr.). The east-west road there was an early Lakeville Road, which is mostly called Bates Road in Queens today.
Sam, III-The “Power House” is labeled in the 1947 USGS overlay and is the current PSE&G complex. The 1914 map shows this as Nassau Light & Power Co., of which Harry Payne Whitney was a director.
Note in the 1941 map overlay, “Old Powerhouse Rd.” and “Power House Rd.,” which part of the NSP (lower red ribbon) overlays. Not shown is an western segment of Power House that forms the LIE south service road. (Part of that segment west of Hollow Lane is the part of IUW that became Power House Rd.)
The old and new (not built to the 1914 planned routing), merge just west of Mineola Rd.
Since 1941, the western part of the “old” road has been erased starting at Christopher Morley Park. (Does the 1941 map have a mapping error for the NSP because it shows a “3 Lane” segment that deviates from the current parkway?)
From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success
Whoa! Just 20 feet clearing the power lines. That is insane by any standards today. Thanks Howard for keeping us informed of historic events
From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927
From Art Kleiner:
Al has provided the attached map from the 1914 Belcher Hyde Altas which documents his comments above. I’ve annotated the map with the roads under discussion.
From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success
Chas. Lindbergh taking off in The Spirit Of St. Louis from Roosevelt Field May 20th, 1927. Looking East as he cleared the telephone poles on Merrick/Whaleneck Ave with what is now Eisenhower Park in the background.
The biggest day for the LIMP in regards to Lindbergh was the homecoming celebration for his flight on June 16th 1927 where the LIMP and Roosevelt Field bridges were used to access the celebration.
Merrick Ave was used for Cup Races.
Lindbergh was a member of the Long Island Aviation club located on the LIMP.
Lindbergh was friendly with the Guggenheims (and wrote his book at Falaise) who were one of the wealthy families involved with the LIMP construction.
From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927
Guessing the mystery plane in the photo was the Spirit of St. Louis, sole piloted by young Charles Augustus Lindbergh (age 25), May 20, 1927. The historic take off just departed from Roosevelt Airfield [Mall] (Westbury, NY). The plane barely missed the overhead electrical wires on today’s Merrick Ave. The flight remarkably reached its destination to Paris, marking the first nonstop cross Atlantic flight from New York to Paris. Lindbergh won the Orteig Prize for his accomplishment. Upon arriving in Paris, jubilant Parisians began to tear the plane apart (by hand) causing damage. Airport personnel secured the plane and stopped further damage.. Not sure if the same plane was used by Lindbergh’s return to the states. The McCamish family, toll collectors of the Motor Parkway Meadow Brook lodge, were lucky to witness Lindbergh’s historic takeoff from the Lodge’s vantage point, through Westbury’s open fields at the time, just 0.3 miles away to the south. Lindbergh suffered family loss because of his fame, something I won’t disclose and forget
From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927
The last picture is my favorite, well done guys!
From Mystery Foto #26 Partially Solved: Lewis Strang's P46 Renault during the 1908 Motor Parkway Sweepstakes
What a mish-mash of old and fake but great fun, nevertheless. Thanks, Howard. Sam, III
From Film of the Week-The Classic Races:The Vanderbilt Cup (1904-1960) and the 1966 Bridgehampton 200
“Garage:” then (and well through my childhood in Manhattan - 30’s-40’s) had multiple meanings, including sales, repair, and storage of automobiles. Sam, III
From Kleiner's Korner: The Vanderbilt Cup Garage
Lindbergh taking off in the Spirit of St. Louis at Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927.
Photo is facing slightly Southeast towards East Meadow.
Merrick Ave. is where the phone lines are. In the distance are the Salisbury links.
The LIMP ran immediately adjacent to the airfield, running West - East. Very nearby would have been the East Meadow Lodge and the bridge over Merrick Ave.
The Vanderbilt car racing track was constructed in the same area as the plane is taking off.
From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927
The location is Roosevelt Field Long Island and the photographer is facing east.
The road could be Merrick Ave.
The background could be Hempstead Plains.
The airplane is the Ryan NYP (Spirit of St. Louis) piloted by Charles Lindbergh.
The photo was taken May 20, 1927.
Part of Roosevelt Field was sold and became Roosevelt Raceway where the 1936 and 1937 Vanderbilt Cup races were held.
From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927
If I may amend my previous response, the photo was probably taken across from land that was to come Roosevelt Raceway, Home of the reconstituted Vanderbilt Cup races
From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927
Mystery Foto #27… the photo shows the Ryan built Spirit of St Louis, flown by Charles Lindbergh taking off at Roosevelt Field on The morning of May 27 1927 on his record breaking trip across the the Atlantic.
I was at Roosevelt Field mall in 1957 when the movie replica of the Spirit of St Louis took off on the perimeter roads of the mall. Sadly no photos.
From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927
On May 20th, 1927, Charles Lindbergh took off heading East, passing over Merrick Ave, in the RyanAircraft “Spirit of Saint Louis.” What is now Eisenhower Park is just past the road. In 1927 Eisenhower Park was known as Salisbury Park. The photographer was facing south easterly probably about where “Fortunoff’s garage” now stands. I believe that was part of the Roosevelt Field airport.
From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927
This looks like the take-off of Charles Lindbergh from Roosevelt Field on the morning of May 20, 1927. By the orientation of the photo, the photographer was standing north of the runway closer to Old Country road looking west. The road along the telephone lines is Merrick/Whaleneck Avenue. I believe the background area was either the Ladenburg Estate or the Hempstead Plains.
Lindbergh would frequently take the motor parkway to the airport and would get off at the Garden City toll booth.
Happy 4th everyone.
Dave
From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927
Are the young ladies in the distinctive blouses stewardesses, or employees wearing a branded uniform of some kind?
From Beutenmuller Family Collection: The People of the Port Washington Seaplane Terminals
From Art Kleiner:
Two more photos of the Renault - this one won the Sept., 1907 Morris Park 24 hour race. The winning driver was M.G. Bernin and Paul Lacroix shown in the photo above as well. From “Automobile Topics” of September 14, 1907.
From Mystery Foto #26 Partially Solved: Lewis Strang's P46 Renault during the 1908 Motor Parkway Sweepstakes
From Art Kleiner:
As per Dick Gorman’s comment above, Willie K. ordered 10 of the 35/45 hp Renaults for his friends. Here’s a photo from “Automobile Topics” of August 24, 1907 noting this purchase and where they were intended to be used. And thanks Dick for the information provided.
From Mystery Foto #26 Partially Solved: Lewis Strang's P46 Renault during the 1908 Motor Parkway Sweepstakes
Thanks Howard for the alert on fake plates being sold online. Speechless, and have choice words about the practice. Thanks for the update
From Fraud Alert Update: Guide to Identifying Authentic Versus Reproduced Long Island Motor Parkway and Roosevelt Field Porcelain Plates
Total guesses.
The location: Roosevelt Field. The photographer is looking east.
The road along the telephone lines: Merrick Ave.
The area in the background: just looks like clouds over the Hempstead Plains. (Today’s East Meadow)
The airplane and its pilot: The Spirit of St. Louis, Charles Lindbergh.
Date: May 20, 1927. Lindy was starting his historic flight.
Connection to Motor Parkway: It ran adjacent to the airport.
From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927
That sure looks like the Ryan NYP “Spirit Of St. Louis” with Charles Lindbergh at the controls taking off on May 20, 1927 and heading east over Merrick Avenue on his way to Paris. The exact place that the wheels lifted off the ground is very close to where the temporary extension of Ellison Avenue was built to connect Old Country Road to the LIMP for the 1908, 1909, and 1910 V. C. Races. It was part of the airfield complex commonly referred to as Roosevelt Field. Additionally, the course for the 1936 and 1937 V. C. Races was built there also. I suppose one could also argue that the photographer was standing in the vicinity of the 1960 course too. I believe the area in the background was owned by Joseph J. Lannin who was in the process of extending his Salisbury Golf Links northward from south of the LIMP. This later became part of Salisbury (Eisenhower) Park.
From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927
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