Vanderbilt Cup Races

Here’s views from one of the 1908 race films on the site here. Described as Jericho Tpke, one of the scenes show the fence curve, but in a panoramic view. So many spectators there to know if a road is intersected at Jericho : ) !

From Mystery Foto #26 Partially Solved: Lewis Strang's P46 Renault during the 1908 Motor Parkway Sweepstakes

Sounds good, Art. I like diagrams, like below :  )
                                                 

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 5 - Motorcycling on Long Island Roads

I believe the 2 views of “making the ascent of Manhasset Hill” is on the Flushing and North Hempstead Turnpike (present day Northern Blvd) looking east towards today’s Whitney Pond, which was called Mitchell’s Pond in the 1906 E. Belcher Hyde Atlas of Nassau County, Double page 3.  Your thoughts?

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 5 - Motorcycling on Long Island Roads

From Art Kleiner:
Good thinking, Brian.  You might be correct but here’s some material found in “Motorcycle Illustrated” from around 1912.  Possibly the last article may relate to why they wouldn’t be allowed in an economy test as all cycles might need to be equipped equally!

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 5 - Motorcycling on Long Island Roads

Using the nozzle like you would a primer bulb.

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 5 - Motorcycling on Long Island Roads

I’m figuring ‘small spray nozzles’ were cleverly hidden fuel reservoirs that can add fuel to the tank during a Economy Run, or an additive to give the bike more pep for hills.

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 5 - Motorcycling on Long Island Roads

Elise I just saw your comment and will try to reach out.  I am sorry to hear about Bill.  we had a lot of fun together.  I also played on Bill’s drums when I would come to play with Bill.  We also played in the gardens.  When we were older my grand father would pick Bill and I up from boarding school together sometimes since our school weren’t far apart.  I was on Long Island last week and tried to find the old house but so much has changed.  The Foxland of my youth was a wonderful place and I have fond memories of it.  My grandfather worked for the Holidays for around thirty years.

From From the Grace Holloway Family Album: Photos of the Old Westbury Home Built by Driver Foxhall Keene

From Art Kleiner:
Gene, so glad you enjoyed the series - thanks for the feedback.  Part 5 (even though I indicated Part 4 would be the final one) will be forthcoming.  This talks about a motorcycling event on LI but not on the Motor Parkway, of which there were many.

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 2 - Motorcycling on the Motor Parkway

Thanks Art for covering the story of motorcycling on the Motor Parkway. I ve been Motorcycling for over 43 years and found the stories very interesting.Its a shame that motorcycles were eventually banned in 1923 from operating on LIMP..It must have been a blast riding those early motorcycle machines on the parkway. Take care, Gene Perry

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 2 - Motorcycling on the Motor Parkway

Congrats to Robert Greenhaus for winning the Mystery Foto Kudos award! Additional Lindbergh Reception at Roosevelt Field images added tonight.

From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927

I grew up in East Meadow. It was always called Salisbury Park even when the name changed to Eisenhower Park!

From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927

Al & Art - I pointed out below where fences are located in the mystery photo. Doesn’t look to match the white sturdy fence in Al’s photo. Found a couple of photos in the archive here that match the scenery in Al’s photo. One is just about exact, the fence curves to the right. Not sure if a road is intersecting there; or maybe the fence is surrounding a Horse Track…Hitchcock? Other image looks like the same fence, but further ahead. Know the Sweepstakes & VCR in 1908 were the same routes.

From Mystery Foto #26 Partially Solved: Lewis Strang's P46 Renault during the 1908 Motor Parkway Sweepstakes

Nassau County Park at Salisbury. As a child it was always just “Salisbury Park.”

From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927

Alan Sadwin (and to others). It was never called Salisbury Park. It was always and only,  Salisbury Links until 1944. At that time it became Nassau County Park until the name was changed to Eisenhower Park. Yes, over the years it was commonly referred to as Salisbury Park, thats because the area is known as Salisbury.

From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927

A couple of very minor corrections to the very informative Robert Greenhaus post. Beyond Merrick Ave. its not the Salisbury Country Club but course # 4 (of 5),  of the Salisbury Links complex owned by J. J. Lannin. The Salisbury Country Club clubhouse was located on the west side of Merrick Ave. south of Stewart Ave. Courses # 3 and 4 of the Salisbury Links were reserved for members of the Salisbury Country Club.  Roosevelt Field did not yet own the property the temporary road was built on for the 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races. At the time of the races the property was owned by J. J. Lannin. By the way, the temporary road was still visible in the early 1930’s aerial of the area.

From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927

David, I think we can agree that sometimes map producers were careless in identifying some roadways and not accurately correcting some changes leading to much confusion. For example, your reference to today’s Community Drive. The 1914 Belcher Hyde Atlas of Nassau County identifies it as Smoketown Rd. AND Hyde Park Rd.  In 1925 it’s known as New Hyde Park Rd. AND Valley Rd.  In the 1930’s it’s known only as New Hyde Park Rd. In the early 1940’s to the early 1950’s -Valley Rd. AND New Hyde Park Rd.  In 1954-Valley Rd. AND Community Dr.                                                                                     
Now for I .U. Willets Rd. ... The Hagstrom Nassau County Atlas -1954. From east to west….From Ellison Ave./Old Westbury Rd. to Glen Cove Rd. it’s I. U. Willets Rd. From Glen Cove Rd. to Willis Ave.-Albertson Station. From Willis Ave to Searingtown Rd-Nassau Blvd. From Searingtown Rd. to New Hyde Park Rd.- I. U. Willets Rd. again.  From New Hyde Park Rd. to Lakeville Rd. - Old Westbury Rd. From Lakeville Rd.to Horace Harding Blvd. - I. U. Willets Rd. and Lakeville Rd….. In the 1940 Hagstrom,  west of Searingtown Rd., it’s shown as Power House Rd. Other maps and atlases from the 1920’s ti the early 1950’s, its also shown as Route 25D. Enough already.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Kudos to Robert Greenhaus for providing the most links for the Mystery Foto to the Vanderbilt Cup Races and the Motor Parkway. Can anyone provide more?

From Update Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Lindbergh Taking Off from Roosevelt Field on May 20, 1927

Bottom LEFT - sorry.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Ooh, lookit!  Bottom right of Art’s 1914 map.  “Platsdale” with one “T”!  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Photo provided by Al Velocci, showing Strang in the Renault - note the similarity with the mystery photo and Frank’s comments (e.g., the car coming out of a turn). Can anyone be more specific in terms of where the fence is located?

From Mystery Foto #26 Partially Solved: Lewis Strang's P46 Renault during the 1908 Motor Parkway Sweepstakes