Vanderbilt Cup Races

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I’m late the the Garfield Tea party…The “tea(-syrup)” “activated sluggish bowels.”
Research Stillman Remedies Co to learn more.
Top sign is CELLULOSE STARCH, both the name of a company (in Phila first, later in New Haven) and its laundry starch product. 

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

” Wonder how much the commission paid for its use.”  O.K., Al; over to you!  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved: The 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Commission Headquarters on Jericho Turnpike, Westbury

Oops, my comment wasn’t delivered, as well as others I presume.

This 1908 photo likely taken from on top of the Jerusalem Ave bridge looking west in Levittown’s open prarie (Island Trees). Though similar to the 1908 Carman Ave bridge view (below), it’s missing both the Ladenburg windmill on the horizon and the water feed hose on the south side of the roadway. Guessing the two seated vehicle likely Motor Parkway photographer Nathan Lazarnick and associate in their Buick, driving into the sunset at about 3pm. If correct, that would place the future Long Island Aviation Country Club airfield to the immediate right with its hangars further down on the right, and the future Levittown Grandstand (1908-10) more further down on the left. Great photo, Art

From Mystery Foto #25 Currently Under Dispute: Joe Tracy Testing the Motor Parkway in September 1908

Sam, Yep,  The Roslyn Light and Power Company northern boundary was Power House Rd.  (by the way, right after the LIE was built, some maps show the south service road also as Power House Rd.) With regard to Brower Lane, before the LIE was built access to that road was from Power House Rd.  and also Garfield Place.. Today Garfield Pl. exists only north of the LIE.

From Open Discussion: Powerhouse Road

From Art Kleiner:
Here’s the commission HQ before the race.  The calm before the storm.  From “The Automobile” of Sept. 13, 1906.  Wonder how much the commission paid for its use.

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved: The 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Commission Headquarters on Jericho Turnpike, Westbury

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From Details on the "Thermos The Bottle" Truck at the 1909 Vanderbilt Cup Race

What hath I wrought?  And I thought I knew this area!  Thanks, Al et al.  Something’s still missing, though.  There’s that Browers Lane/PHR sign on my Odd Streets page <http://sbiii.com/oddstrts.html>,  it’s on the SOUTH side of the LIE (the South Service Road).  PHR *IS* the north side of the RL&P/NL&P/LILCO/NG property.  By “stretching northward all the way”, Al, did you mean across the LIE to the North Service Road?  ‘Tis a puzzlement.  Brian’s maps don’t blow up well.  Any hope for higher resolution?  Sam, III

From Open Discussion: Powerhouse Road

What hath I wrought?  And I thought I knew this area!  Thanks, Al et al.  Something’s still missing, though.  There’s that Browers Lane/PHR sign on my Odd Streets page <http://sbiii.com/oddstrts.html>,  it’s on the SOUTH side of the LIE (the South Service Road).  PHR *IS* the north side of the RL&P/NL&P/LILCO/NG property.  By “stretching northward all the way”, Al, did you mean across the LIE to the North Service Road?  ‘Tis a puzzlement.  Sam, III

From Open Discussion: Powerhouse Road

Al Velocci:

Art, Yes, the Nassau Light and Power Company moved to Glenwood Landing in the spring of 1904 but they retained the property in Roslyn. Today, at the south east corner of Willis Ave. and the South Service Rd. of the LIE is the National Grid complex that stretches east ward to the LIRR. This is whats left of what was originally the Roslyn Light and Power property which, prior to the construction of the LIE, stretched northward all the way to today’s Power House Rd. Prior to the building of the LIE,  that section of the roadway from Roslyn Rd. west to Shelter Rock Rd. was generally referred to as Power House Rd. Today Power House Rd. stretches from Roslyn Rd. west ward to Mineola Ave. East of Mineola Ave. it becomes Old Power House Rd. and continues west ward beyond the split at the beginning of the north service rd of the LIE. The last couple hundred feet is unpaved, reaching to Christopher Morley Park.

From Open Discussion: Powerhouse Road

Art, Yes, the Nassau Light and Power Company moved to Glenwood Landing in the spring of 1904 but they retained the property in Roslyn. Today, at the south east corner of Willis Ave. and the South Service Rd. of the LIE is the National Grid complex that stretches east ward to the LIRR. This is whats left of what was originally the Roslyn Light and Power property which, prior to the construction of the LIE, stretched northward all the way to today’s Power House Rd. Prior to the building of the LIE,  that section of the roadway from Roslyn Rd. west to Shelter Rock Rd. was generally referred to as Power House Rd. Today Power House Rd. stretches from Roslyn Rd. west ward to Mineola Ave. East of Mineola Ave. it becomes Old Power House Rd. and continues west ward beyond the split at the beginning of the north service rd of the LIE. The last couple hundred feet is unpaved, reaching to Christopher Morley Park.

From Fraud Alert Update: Guide to Identifying Authentic Versus Reproduced Long Island Motor Parkway and Roosevelt Field Porcelain Plates

Thanks, Brian!  My grandfather pulled strings to get (NY) XX 17, as did my father to get XX 18 (the XX-series was supposedly reserved for legislators).  My classmate’s father had XX 19.  I moved heaven and earth to secure (NY) SB III and, after Dad died, to get XX 18.  For Mom’s car, at one point, we had 18 SB.  Somewhere I have a pic of THREE cars in the driveway with XX 18 [mine, my old ‘49 Chrysler, and mom’s with (PA) XX 18]!  I hated to give up SB III when we moved up here but almost immediately snagged (MA) SB III..  Tradition (60 years+)!  Sam 123

From Fraud Alert Update: Guide to Identifying Authentic Versus Reproduced Long Island Motor Parkway and Roosevelt Field Porcelain Plates

Can’t argue with Walt, obviously, but I never called him Austin, only Austie, and never once did he correct me.  Only those in his social circle called him Austn.  I can not claim to have been close friends but we did know each other and downed a few, just the two of us together, into the wee hours at local spiritous beverage dispensaries after events.  Probably Austi"x” was too much of a gentlemen to set me straight.  And then there’s that printed invitation.  All this just makes me miss him all the more; what a great guy (in spiteof those plaid jackets)!  Sam, III

From Highlights from the Long Island Jewish Medical Center Drive-By Parade, Sunday, June 14, 2020

Correction - “he never called or referred to himself as Austie” - typo.

From Highlights from the Long Island Jewish Medical Center Drive-By Parade, Sunday, June 14, 2020

Austie was a favorite name used by many friends and people who thought they were his good friend as a term of endearment. Bev Kimes always referred to him as Austie but when speaking to him called him Austin. When he called me to set up an “Iron Range” date to inform people that is would be happening, or we worked on Vanderbilt Cup Race reunions together for the L.I. Old Car Club he never called or referred to himself as Austin. I am not trying to be nit picky just want all to know him better. One thing you never did was call him Henry! He would frown if you did that and correct you to call call him Austin.

From Highlights from the Long Island Jewish Medical Center Drive-By Parade, Sunday, June 14, 2020

I just went through about 50 pieces of correspondence between Austin and Peter Helck found in the Helck Family Collection and found Austin was the name he used when signing letters to Peter.  One was signed Austie but this was actually written by someone else for him.  Peter often noted Austie on the letterhead when filing them.

From Highlights from the Long Island Jewish Medical Center Drive-By Parade, Sunday, June 14, 2020

Despite the lack of Roman numerals, I thought you might like this Sam III.

From Fraud Alert Update: Guide to Identifying Authentic Versus Reproduced Long Island Motor Parkway and Roosevelt Field Porcelain Plates

From Art Kleiner:
Some info. on the Nassau Power & Light Company (which evolved from the Roslyn Power and Light Company and then into the Long Island Lighting Company).  The plant on Power House Road in Roslyn was closed during its expansion in the early 1900s.

From Open Discussion: Powerhouse Road

This one has me a bit stumped, so this is another best guess from me especially since time was a bit short this weekend. Thought this might have been our favorite photographer in his Buick, but that’s certainly not his Buick!

I’m guessing this is Joe Tracy in his Locomobile, being paid $60 to make some initial test runs on the new Motor Parkway on Sept 6th 1908 before the opening of the parkway. Another guess is the photographer is on top of the Jerusalem Ave bridge looking East.

From Mystery Foto #25 Currently Under Dispute: Joe Tracy Testing the Motor Parkway in September 1908

Sam , most interesting to see the press preview form 1948. I worked for Austin for several years at his house in his library and never did I hear his wife ever call him Austie. he didn’t object to people calling him Austie but when he introduced himself it was always as Austin. He never owned a Bugatti Royale. The only Bugatti I recall him having for many many years was the type 35 race car that he bought at the estate sale of the cars that Wallace Bird of Oyster Bay owned.

From Highlights from the Long Island Jewish Medical Center Drive-By Parade, Sunday, June 14, 2020

thank you for all the information and the photographs Howard, as well as the advice you provided to my friend who was interested in the LIMP plate that sold . He grew up on long island and always wanted one of those plates and now owns one. Life is short so sometimes you have to step up to the plate ( no pun intended) and get what you have always wanted before it is to late. Happy Father’s Day , may you have many many more of them . I look forward to the day when we can all once again have Motor Parkway clean up crew events, and perhaps meet at the Waterfront Garage sometime to exchange hellos in person and experience the warm friendships that we have developed all due to our interest in long island history and a paved road of long ago. Keep well all, we are together in spirit as kindred souls.
Walt Gosden
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Howard Kroplick

Walt, thanks so much for the kind words and optimistic forecast!

From Fraud Alert Update: Guide to Identifying Authentic Versus Reproduced Long Island Motor Parkway and Roosevelt Field Porcelain Plates