Vanderbilt Cup Races

Now, why is Tsar Nicholas in the qualifiers pic?  Hey, I actually remember when steam rollers were run by steam!  I saw them when I was little, pre-WWII, in Manhattan, somewhat like the attached but black and more enclosed.  Sam, III

From Kleiner's Korner Part I: Illustrating the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race and the Motor Parkway

Thank you, Howard, for that insightful look at Peter Helck’s gift to George Robertson, showing how the Vanderbilt Cup Race of 1908 influenced Peter’s future art career! After Fred Wagner ‘started’ and waved in George Robertson at the 1908 race, three years later during summer vacation 1911, Helck had his “first formal art instruction at the Arts Students League on West 57th Street, a mere 70 yards from Broadway’s ‘Auto Row’.” In the vicinity of that high concentration of domestic and foreign auto dealerships with their “demonstrators” at the curb, Helck “on occasion” glimpsed “the great Ralph De Palma…” and recalled that “Around the corner was the U.S. Tire Building where observing eyes focused on others of the Row’s distinguished personages including Fred Wagner…” causing Helck to observe, “Art study in this environment left its mark.” During 1911-1912, Wagner moved from New Rochelle to Smithtown, commuting via the Motor Parkway to Auto Row, and building his, now National Register, home designed by Gustav Stickley. When Helck spotted him, Wagner was working in publishing and advertising, primarily for auto tires and inviting ‘Auto Row’ to Smithtown for his annual summer picnics, attended by De Palma, Robertson and many other notables. See “Peter Helck, American Artist (1893-1988), Memoirs Part 1,” 1911 [from Bulb Horn, July-Sept. 1981] at http://www.peterhelck.com/memoirs.php

From Helck Family Collection: A Gift to George Robertson from Peter Helck

And here’s an earlier article describing the aerial photography of Long Island taken in 1929.  From “Aero Digest of Sept. 1929.  Photographer was Robert A. Smith and the pilot was H.H. Hunter (triple H) of Roosevelt Field, Inc.

From The Amazing Fairchild Aerials of Long Island

Details of the Fairchild aerial camera named the “Cyclops” which quite possibly captured images of Long Island and the Motor Parkway.

From The Amazing Fairchild Aerials of Long Island

Additional documentation pertaining to the Fairchild Aerial Surveys and Fairchild Camera subsidiaries of the Fairchild Corporation.  From “Aero Digest” of Jan. and Feb., 1934.

From The Amazing Fairchild Aerials of Long Island

Howard,
To me, it looks like a 1906 Cadillac.  It had a one cylinder engine under the seat.
Don’t know where the photo was taken.  I’m sure that some of our fellow members will know.
Rog

From Mystery Foto #34 Solved: The N6 Cadillac Getting Ready to Start in the 1908 Nassau Sweepstakes

Mystery Foto # 34… The race car is a 1908 Cadillac. The driver is F.W. Darmstadt. The race was the 1908 Nassau Sweepstakes for stock cars costing less than a $1000… The Cadillac finished 6th. The race held on October 10, 1908.

From Mystery Foto #34 Solved: The N6 Cadillac Getting Ready to Start in the 1908 Nassau Sweepstakes

The scenario of disregard and disrespect portrayed here is brutal. A useless parking lot T a cost of $400,000. A public official literally noting there was almost nothing there. Shameless political posturing. What’s the next step? Ripping down St Paul’s so they can add to the Garden City Country Club?

From The Garden City News: Historians concerned about Village construction over the Motor Parkway

These are absolutely wonderful Howard. I can’t stop looking at them!

From Kleiner's Korner Part I: Illustrating the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race and the Motor Parkway

I, for one, at least, never said Louis was involved in the Cup itself.  “& Co,”  Pottery?  That’s a crock!  Sam, III

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

All,  aaaaah…. Louis C. Tiffany had nothing to do with the Vanderbilt Cup.            As Howard correctly pointed out, the Cup was produced by Tiffany & Co. By 1904 Louis was no longer involved with Tiffany & Co on a day by day basis.. While he remained a VP of the firm, in the mid 1890’s he had established Tiffany Studios, a separate entity, owned by him, concentrating of glass, pottery and other works of art. Its probably a good thing he was not involved with the Vanderbilt Cup, he would have insisted it be made of pottery. Oh well…. we all certainly know more about “Laurelton Hall” than we did before.

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

Great pic, Sam!

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

Sam, Your right. Back to Tiffany/Vanderbilt. The families were actually connected, in a round about fashion. ... sort of… Willie’s mother, Alva, had a sister Mary, (Jennie) who married a William George Tiffany, don’t think he was related to Louis Tiffany. Any way ...  he was a cousin of O.H.P. Belmont, Alva’s second husband.

Not only that, I think Willie and Louie knew each other.  Louis C. Tiffany had a “summer cottage” at Newport, plus his wife Louise, was involved with several charities that Willie’s wife participated in.

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

#N6 Cadillac driven by F.W. Darmstadt. Finished 6th on Sept 10th 1908 during the Nassau Sweepstakes.

Purely a guess here on the photographer, but I’ll say William Pickering.

From Mystery Foto #34 Solved: The N6 Cadillac Getting Ready to Start in the 1908 Nassau Sweepstakes

Har, de har, har!  To stick to Tiffany, this thread’s a real jewel, truly sterling!  [HK’s gonna kill us!  Hey, if the DNC can have a comedian, so can we.]  To atone, here’s a great aerial view.  Sam, III

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

Sam, “Rest on my laurels” ?  Na, will leave that to Hardy.

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

Pics then and now: the glass bridge—yes, it’s still there.

Love this stuff.

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

So sorry I didn’t see this. You know I would have gotten this one!

Pics—-then and now: the smoke stack.

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

Shoulda added - you can rest on your Laurels!  Sam, III

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

Just *MAGNIFICENT*, Al!  :·)  Sam, III

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow