Vanderbilt Cup Races

That’s Harry Stillman in Olds #20 in the 1910 VCR.  Can’t readily find his mech. - odd.  Kudos - fugeddaboudit!  Sam, III

From Update Mystery Foto #35 Solved: Jim Florida in the #9 Locomobile at the 1908 Founders Week Cup Race

What a blast; thanks muchly, Art!  The list of names is fab., but what struck me most was NOT automotive; it was Messrs. P(rosper). Clust and (Col.) C(harles). J(oseph). Dieges!  Bet they furnished the cuff links and scarf pins (and maybe the bronze statue); Dieges & Clust was the firm that made all my grade and high school and college (and association) rings and pins!  They were famed for medals and plaques.  Wonder if they also made car emblems and badges.  Sam, III

From Kleiner's Korner: Fred Wagner Hosting a 1915 Party

Bruce, I’m one of those (if the only one) who claims it was further west, say around 193 (see <http://sbiii.com/limp-qns.html#westterm>.  Al V. said it was at 195th.  I maintain the entry was between the row of trees and the HHB pavement.  My site has many old photos of the area but they’re scattered (or lost); the 73rd St. bridge in 1955 and 2001 is on <http://sbiii.com/limp-qn2.html> and the area and bridge especially in 2002 on <http://sbiii.com/limp-qn1.html> and in 2008 on <http://sbiii.com/limp-qn3.html>.  Wherever the entry was, it was definitely westward along the south margin of Horace Harding Boulevard, NOT south of it, although the toll gate itself and the kiosk WERE located some 300’-400’ to the southeast; this may account for some of the confusion.  The 05 May 2018 blog post shows the entry ca. 1938.  CHALLENGE - LIers - has anyone checked in detail on the ground around Peck Ave. just southeast of the merge with HHB?  Google Maps shows all sorts of interesting traces (possibly just sidewalks - see attached).  Sam, III

From Then & Now- The Western Terminus to the 73rd Avenue Motor Parkway Bridge

Exactly where was the actual entrance on today’s streets?  I envisioned it somewhere near the L.I.E. at 199th, but I recall someone had said it was in the Garden Apartments west of 199th Street. That seems to differ from Al’s map.  Thank you

From Then & Now- The Western Terminus to the 73rd Avenue Motor Parkway Bridge

Tuckers were available in six colors Black # 100, Waltz Blue # 200, Andante Green # 300, Beige # 400, Pearl Gray # 500 and Maroon #600.
There were only Eight Green Tuckers painted at the factory.
Tucker # 1044 Looks amazing in it’s original Color, Andante Green.
If I was to go to a Tucker Dealership today, I would order one in Andante green with a Green cloth interior.

From Video of the Week:The Original Andante Green Color of Tucker 1044 Discovered

Art, Did you notice that no officials of the Vanderbilt Cup Races were in attendance at his parties ?  Hmm.  Also, Wagner never purchased any Motor Parkway stock.

From Kleiner's Korner: Fred Wagner Hosting a 1915 Party

Dick, it (finally) occurred to me that aviation pioneer George C. Dade, founder of the Cradle of Aviation Museum [<http://sbiii.com/aviation.html#dade>], about whom I’ve written in these posts, was married to Edith Motte Gorman (apparently of Connecticut).  If you wish, contact me at sbiii at sbiii dot com.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #34 Solved: The N6 Cadillac Getting Ready to Start in the 1908 Nassau Sweepstakes

In 1915 if you weighed more than 200 pounds you were considered “fat”? I guess obesity really is a serious problem in modern America!

From Kleiner's Korner: Fred Wagner Hosting a 1915 Party

Yes, it is a coincidence. I didn’t know that till I saw the obit.

From Mystery Foto #34 Solved: The N6 Cadillac Getting Ready to Start in the 1908 Nassau Sweepstakes

Thank you for letting us know, Roger. I bet a good part of his overall knowledge of history is due to being with the Nassau County PD for almost half of century. Is it just a coincidence that his wife’s maiden is Gorman?

From Mystery Foto #34 Solved: The N6 Cadillac Getting Ready to Start in the 1908 Nassau Sweepstakes

FYI… Long time subscriber to this blog and champion Mystery Foto solver Tim Ivers passed away back in March. Tim was a friend when we grew up in Uniondale back in the 40’s and 50’s. I saw him very occasionally when we had a Hempstead High School reunion. He moved to Florida at some point and I lost track of him for a long time, relocating him on the Vanderbilt Cup blog of all places!!! He sure was good at solving these Mystery Fotos. R.I.P.Tim.

From Mystery Foto #34 Solved: The N6 Cadillac Getting Ready to Start in the 1908 Nassau Sweepstakes

Art, Good find,  love those sketches of the motor parkway construction, more please.

From Kleiner's Korner Part I: Illustrating the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race and the Motor Parkway

Here’s a list of competitors of the Endurance Test published in “The Automobile Review” of May, 1901.  As Ariejan notes above it was won by #22, a Gasmobile operated by F. W. Walsh.  Having made no stops it achieved a 100% efficiency rating, the same as #12, an Apperson operated by E. Apperson.  Both received a blue ribbon.

From Updated: Long Island's First Major Automobile Competition: The 1901 100-Mile Endurance Test

Solid surface (SS) it was.

From The Garden City News: Historians concerned about Village construction over the Motor Parkway

If that smokestack could talk ~

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

Great group of pics,,,

From Update: Then (2017 and 2020) & Now (2026): A sad return to the Long Island Motor Parkway in Garden City

According to the Detroit Public Library, that’s F. W. Darnstadt driving a 1908 Cadillac Model-S in the Nassau Sweepstakes on October 10, 1908 with Nathan Lazarnick as the photographer. However, the car may actually be a Model-G. According to the website http://www.newcadillacdatabase.org, the Model-G had the company name embossed on the radiator but the Model-S did not.

From Mystery Foto #34 Solved: The N6 Cadillac Getting Ready to Start in the 1908 Nassau Sweepstakes

The construction drawings ‘existing conditions’ sheet shows 41 locations identifying a ‘solid surface’, i.e., the parkway surface, along the length of the work area. Part of this can be seen in the first attachment picture, along with the concrete edging.

From The Garden City News: Historians concerned about Village construction over the Motor Parkway

Early Cadillac stripped down from something like the ‘06 Tulip with that odd inverted front axle with truss rod stiffening.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #34 Solved: The N6 Cadillac Getting Ready to Start in the 1908 Nassau Sweepstakes

Simply wonderful from all perspectives.

Francis @ http://www.motometercentral.com

From Helck Family Collection: A Gift to George Robertson from Peter Helck