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The six Vanderbilt Cup Races held on Long Island from 1904 to 1910 were the greatest sporting events of their day, and the first international automobile road races held in the United States. The races had a far-reaching impact on the development of American automobiles and parkways. This site provides comprehensive information on the races, the Long Island Motor Parkway and current Long Island automotive events, car shows and news.
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Incredible find….
From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: A Vanderbilt Cup Race Scrapbook Discovered in Garden City
Very interesting story and find….Enjoy it…
From Tucker 1044 Featured in Newsday's "In The Garage"
Not much to go by here so it will have to be wild guess time. There appears to be a shadow near the right-rear of the car which might indicate we’re looking in a westerly direction. So, if this is true, where is there a 90 degree turn to the north with trees in the background and fields on either side of the parkway? Could this be looking towards the Fresh Meadows area of Queens with the 73rd. Avenue bridge off to the right out of view and the Hollis Court Blvd. bridge behind the photographer? ( future site of Cunningham Park?) It doesn’t look like the three foot concrete extensions have been added yet, so I’ll guess about 1927-28 for the date.
From Mystery Foto #12 Unsolved:Possible Options for this Long Island Motor Parkway Curve- Ca.1928 Update
Mystery Foto #12 ... Could it be the Caroussel turn at Nürburgring… I doubt it but since there are about 80 different possibilities depending on the direction of travel I will go out on a limb and say east bound on LIMP east of Dix Hills Park where LIMP bends right between McCullock Drive and East McLane Drive close to present day Northern State Parkway. Or perhaps Big Bend at Lime Rock… Would you believe the Corkscrew at Laguna Seca? Based on the auto in the photo I would say the photo date is in the 1920’s.
From Mystery Foto #12 Unsolved:Possible Options for this Long Island Motor Parkway Curve- Ca.1928 Update
There’s something about the trees and terrain that says Queens to me. The curve and tree line look like they match the area just to the West of Winchester Blvd. The photographer would be standing on the west embankment of the Wheeler Farmway bridge looking West. The tree line would be where the Grand Central Pkwy is now.
Waldo’s car looks like a 1920’s vintage, so guess on the date would be 1928/29.
From Mystery Foto #12 Unsolved:Possible Options for this Long Island Motor Parkway Curve- Ca.1928 Update
It would be nice to see some scale architectual models of some of the bridges, lodges and roadhouses of the Long Island Motor Parkway displayed at the upcomming NY Automoble Show with an included wall map that lights up the location.
From Vanderbilt Cup Races Featured at the 2017 New York International Auto Show from April 14-23
A few hints here. A long descending straightaway to the bottom of the hill (where the car is parked), that then begins to ascend just before an almost 90 degree right curve, amidst more hilly terrain. Best guess it’s Central Islip, Suffolk County. If correct, we’re heading east on the Motor Parkway, where the bottom of the hill is today’s Milford Drive. See attached. This location includes all the above hints. Around 1930s based on the car
From Mystery Foto #12 Unsolved:Possible Options for this Long Island Motor Parkway Curve- Ca.1928 Update
Can’t highlight racing New York without including The Vanderbilt Cup’s contribution.
Might the sport return in some form soon?
Best of luck with your part in the exhibit.
From Vanderbilt Cup Races Featured at the 2017 New York International Auto Show from April 14-23
Cars are like t-shirts. You can’t have too many!
From One of the Three Known Existing 1963 Pre-Production Mustangs Sold for $192,500 by Barrett-Jackson
Can’t highlight racing New York without including The Vanderbilt Cup’s contribution.
Might the sport return in some form soon?
From Vanderbilt Cup Races Featured at the 2017 New York International Auto Show from April 14-23
My guess is Deadman’s Curve #2, the Plainview Road turn, Bethpage, Nassau County, looking northeast where the Seaford Oyster Bay Expressway currently exists, and from the view of the car, taken about 1930.
From Mystery Foto #12 Unsolved:Possible Options for this Long Island Motor Parkway Curve- Ca.1928 Update
This is looking west in queens right before the parkway turns north to its western terminus. The picture was taken right after hollis court blvd and the area directly in front would be covered up by the clearview expressway. circa 1930
From Mystery Foto #12 Unsolved:Possible Options for this Long Island Motor Parkway Curve- Ca.1928 Update
The big curve in Bethpage. That’s all I’ve got.
From Mystery Foto #12 Unsolved:Possible Options for this Long Island Motor Parkway Curve- Ca.1928 Update
The displays in that concourse have always been hit and miss at best. THIS is GREAT news! Can’t wait for the experience.
From Vanderbilt Cup Races Featured at the 2017 New York International Auto Show from April 14-23
Howard,what a major event this will be for you,you’re well known now,but wait until this is over,you’ll be a historian of all historians and a preservationist of all preservationists. You are the best of the best
From Vanderbilt Cup Races Featured at the 2017 New York International Auto Show from April 14-23
I’m back. After enlarging the 2nd closeup, I made out 2 concrete boundary posts at where I assume would be the W/S of the LIMP ROW.
From Mystery Foto #12 Unsolved:Possible Options for this Long Island Motor Parkway Curve- Ca.1928 Update
Whether I’m correct or not, I viewed the 1930 Airmap of Suffolk County….www.suffolkcountyny.gov to help me figure what section of the LIMP this may be.
After viewing the LIMP from end to end, the following location made most sense to me: I believe this is the parkway due north, then bending east towards Hoffman La. Hauppauge Suffolk County NY. The roads that existed in this time period ( 1930 ) that would be S/W of this location are Hawthorne Ave and Bridge Rd. I’m know the parkway remained 16 ft wide in Suffolk County ( no concrete extensions here ). Pretty sure the guardrailing wasn’t always consistent. None on the straightaway ( railing makes sense for the immediate curve ). It’s also quite rural here ( As it appears on the 1930 Airmap ).
Look forward to everyone’s comments!
From Mystery Foto #12 Unsolved:Possible Options for this Long Island Motor Parkway Curve- Ca.1928 Update
Howard,all is well and I guess you’re running out of room for any more cars at the Waterfront too.
From One of the Three Known Existing 1963 Pre-Production Mustangs Sold for $192,500 by Barrett-Jackson
Howard,are you going for it,to add to your Mustangs you have already,that would make it,I think.Shorty,Hertz Rental,two family owned and this one? What a collection
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Howard Kroplick
Ted, hope all is well! No, I am “Tuckered” out!
From One of the Three Known Existing 1963 Pre-Production Mustangs Sold for $192,500 by Barrett-Jackson
Not directly about the car, but of interest to those who want to know more about the history of the company. I just started transcribing records in the National Archives as a way of keeping busy. Currently, I’m working on the documents from the Tucker Motors hearing with the SEC in 1949. Fascinating stuff. Just to let you know that this record is available at the Archives (or will be once we finish transcribing it, I’m not sure).
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Howard Kroplick
Deborah, thanks! Let us know when they become available.
From The Dream of the Tucker Torpedo Concept Car Is Becoming A Reality
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