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Happy to see a Mystery Foto view of my neighborhood as it appeared in 1932… but I disagree that the road on the right was either Marcus Avenue (which is located almost a 1/2 mile south of this point) or a section of I.U. Willets Road.
Though not distinct in the photo, and despite being obliterated by the new Parkway, the course of I.U.W. Road runs from the west (a.k.a. Hollow Lane) to the east directly between the Shearman mansion (now the Buckley School) and the golf course (now The Links condos). This can be seen on the maps ‘01’ and ‘02’ at http://sbiii.com/limpmap1.html  as well as contemporary maps.

I was unable to track down any citation that the “road on the right” was a mapped, named street, and so would venture a guess that it was a trail used by construction vehicles to access the Parkway from near what is now the site of 3003 New Hyde Park Road.

Thanks, Jim

From Updated: Mystery Foto #14 Solved: The Northern State Parkway Under Construction in 1932

The location of the photo is the Northern State Parkway being constructed in New Hyde Park, Manhasset Hills, and North Hills. The photo is facing towards the northeast.

The Northern State Parkway(under construction), New Hyde Park Rd, I.U. Willets Rd and the LIMP.  The 2 bridges are for New Hyde Park Rd and the LIMP.

The date of the photo I would say is in the early to mid part of 1932.  The parkway ground breaking was in March of 1931 and it opened to traffic on 6/15/33.
The estate property mentioned was originally that of Isaac Underhill Willets(I.U. Willets.  The estate building and property at the time of the photo was owned by L.H. Sherman. He was a prominent lawyer and the first mayor of the Village of North hills when it was incorporated in September of 1929. 
The buildings and surrounding property is now the Buckley Country Day School.
In 2003 the movie “School of Rock” was filmed in the building.

From Updated: Mystery Foto #14 Solved: The Northern State Parkway Under Construction in 1932

Saying this track is on the “Central Line” (as above) is misleading and technically incorrect. The Central line ran about 3/4 mile south of these tracks—VERY close to the LIMP.  These tracks are correctly identified as being on the MAIN line.  There was an intersection of of the Main Line and Center Line very near the LIMP overpass.
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From Mystery Foto #13 Solved: A 1944 View of the Central Avenue/LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge in Bethpage

Most likely incorrect but here goes. Lake Success with Deepdale on top right, looking SW over the NSP with Lakeville Rd bridge and Moses’ 2nd Motor Parkway bridge over New Hyde Park Rd. Moses’ 1st bridge over NSP still to be built.

From Updated: Mystery Foto #14 Solved: The Northern State Parkway Under Construction in 1932

Looks like Northern State going under new bridges at Lakeville Road and New Hyde Park Road, ca 1928—The building was one of Willie K’s I believe, but don’t know the movie.

From Updated: Mystery Foto #14 Solved: The Northern State Parkway Under Construction in 1932

We are looking east over the Northern State Parkway in North Hills (North New Hyde Park). The two bridges are New Hyde Park Road (upper) and LIMP (center). I think that’s Marcus Avenue angling off to the right. Since this section of the NSP opened on July 15, 1933, this photo was probably taken in 1932. I believe the estate was owned by Isaac Underhill Willets although one source mentioned the Shearson family???. Since 1955, the estate has been part of the campus of the Buckley Country Day School. Some scenes from the movie “The School of Rock”, starring Jack Black, Mike White, and Joan Cusack were filmed there.

From Updated: Mystery Foto #14 Solved: The Northern State Parkway Under Construction in 1932

Frank—-as usual your map work is awesome. Thanks.

Eric—-you are 100% correct. Hang in there. We are moving from west to east as you can see. We are getting to the locations of which you mention and there are pics of everything. Stay tuned.

From Updated: Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" VII: Ruland Rd & Colonial Springs Rd

Back from vacation and ready to LIMP!

21 images captured by the Dave & Sam ( and all the trekking of course )! You 2 went soup to nuts with this segment, excellent! And as always, great map coverage courtesy of Frank! Just like you mentioned, Dave: the LIMP is basically lost between Little East Neck Rd & Colonial Springs Rd ( Residential Area & Shopping Center. If there was original pavement to be found in there, you 2 would let us know. )

After viewing the Suffolk County GIS map year 2016, I can see the LIMP ROW between Maxess Rd. & Ruland Rd. ( Images 1 thru 4 ). The new housing on the N/S of Ruland Rd didn’t disturb the LIMP curve, I think. Image 4 appears to be between #107 & 111 Ruland Rd ( Nurseries ).

Image 18 ( Border ) that’s along the W/S of the Farm Property…Viewing this closeup, I think there’s a chain link fence cemented in the border section?

Image 21 ( Gate ). The farm must have utilized the ROW after 1938. The gate location seems to be over the ROW.

Don’t know how much further the team trekked into Dix Hills. We’ll find out soon enough. Thanks, Father & Son!

From Updated: Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" VII: Ruland Rd & Colonial Springs Rd

Fantastic! The hottest race car on Long Island.

From Highlights from the Alco Black Beast at the 2018 Garden City Easter Sunday Vintage Car Parade

That second “Morning” pic, ¾ left rear view, shows to advantage just how far out behind the rear of the car those rear dumb irons extend!  As to the parade, which I used to attend faithfully, especially when my kiddies were little (there were rides ij rumble seats!), who cares about some noisy, smelly old ALC0 when there’s a glorious 1941 Chrysler convertible in front?  :↓·)  Sam, III

From Highlights from the Alco Black Beast at the 2018 Garden City Easter Sunday Vintage Car Parade

HA!  Misery ;loves company - LOTS of company!  Why are these Mystery Fotos so obvious AFTER you guess wrong?  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #13 Solved: A 1944 View of the Central Avenue/LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge in Bethpage

Love it!
Just wondering, can you run it on today’s pump gas?
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Howard Kroplick

No problem running on low octane.

From Highlights from the Alco Black Beast at the 2018 Garden City Easter Sunday Vintage Car Parade

Looking west at the 1931 construction of Northern State Parkway with the two bridges at New Hyde Park Road in the forefront.  The North Hills estate, “Northcort” is in upper right, presently the Buckley Country Day School, where scenes from the 2003 movie “The School of Rock” were filmed.

From Updated: Mystery Foto #14 Solved: The Northern State Parkway Under Construction in 1932

Edith Klarmann:

Thanks…

There… now you have it.  Both St Rose and my farmhouse correctly identified.  And, having lived there for the time when we did, every time I look at the foto I can almost see a bit more than is actually revealed; that is, everything from what we referred to as the “Big Barn”, to differentiate from the older barn, the “Yellow Barn”, then, “Chicken Coop” at the end of the path leading off the one to the “Big House”, which it was, and until WW2 the bell on top thereof would chime out for the noon and evening prayers which could be heard quite clearly.  And, for a last look at the map, to recall that until the mid fifties, except for the Noheil farm at the corner of Ruland and New Highway (Republic Rd), our closest neighbor was the Hairstons (house still visible near start on Colonial Springs Rd).

But enough of this memory lane… before my memory starts to fill in the missing bits and pieces.  Thanks again… Edith

From Updated: Sam & Dave’s “Excellent Motor Parkway Hike” VI: Broad Hollow Road

What a great turnout of people….

From Highlights from the Alco Black Beast at the 2018 Garden City Easter Sunday Vintage Car Parade

This is Lakeville Road & Marcus Avenue in Lake Success. The House is the Deepdale Vanderbilt Estate in Lake Success.One of the bridges is the Limp farm bridge over the Northern State Parkway. Great stuff. Thanks,Gene Perry

From Updated: Mystery Foto #14 Solved: The Northern State Parkway Under Construction in 1932

There is a long section of pavement north of the last location shown just above a LIPA substation on the east side of bagatelle road in Butterfly Park. The LIMP then crosses over bagatelle road near threepence drive and a paved curve of the roadway still exists with posts between several houses on the right side of bagatelle as it makes its way north . Near the entrance of chestnut hill elementary school is a large pile of roadway put there when constructing the school. This is just south of the L.I.E.

This area is one of the best places to discover the old roadway still intact and undocumented. I have never seen any photos , past or present, of this area on this site or any other site. It should be explored and posted more. Its worth the trip for any motorparkway fan.

From Updated: Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" VII: Ruland Rd & Colonial Springs Rd

Love this. Awesome stuff Sam and Dave!! I can’t forget to mention Rob Miller, Sam III, Ron Ridolf, Howard, and others I failed to mention to make this all happen. You guys rock!

From Updated: Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" VII: Ruland Rd & Colonial Springs Rd

-Identify the location and orientation
Looking Easterly at Northern State Parkway construction in New Hyde Park

-Identify the parkways, roads and bridges
The upper bridge is the New Hyde Park road bridge over the new NSP. The lower bridge is the Moses constructed Motor Parkway bridge

-What date was the Mystery Foto taken? Provide a rationale.
The bridges were constructed in 1931- so that would be a safe guess on the photo’s date.

-Who was the owner of the estate located in the right corner of the aerial?
“Northcourt” in North Hills, built in 1918 for Lawrence Hobart Shearman Esq., Vice President at W.R. Grace by architect James O’Connor.

-What is the current use of the building?
Since 1955, it has been Buckley Country Day School

-Which 2003 hit movie was filmed in this building?
School of Rock starring Jack Black

From Updated: Mystery Foto #14 Solved: The Northern State Parkway Under Construction in 1932

Dave- Edith’s childhood farmhouse was south of Ruland Rd and just north of the Huntington town line (first house in Huntington). The earlier aerial sent was for the two locations of the Huntington lodge (1930, 1947) just to the north of Edith. After the lodge was moved from its original location to the south in 1947, it became Maureen’s childhood home in the lodge.

Edith- I’m sending another aerial copy of the farmhouse with proper labels using a red circle. After you verify the correction, I’ll create an overlay of your home to view where it stood in today’s Costco parking lot. I believe it actually stood in the still vacant lot just south of Costcos. The farmhouse foundation may still be there. Also sending more 1947 aerials of Ruland Rd heading east towards Colonial Springs Rd (a trip down memory lane).

Stay tuned Dave for more possible exploration sites!

From Updated: Sam & Dave’s “Excellent Motor Parkway Hike” VI: Broad Hollow Road