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Jul 14 2016 Walt Gosden 2:00 PM

The Moon was one of Austin Clark’s favorite cars. I believe he gave the story of the car in his column “Young Nuts and Old Bolts” that he wrote for Old Cars Monthly (that publication eventually became a weekly) . Old Cars published a bound volume of articles that appeared in that newspaper and it is quite possible if anyone has that compilation that they could locate the article, the volume was titled “the Best of Old Cars”.
The Moon was on a Glidden tour revival in the late 1940s and was being driven by a friend of Austin’s and I recall Austin telling me “he not only wrecked the car once but twice on the same tour” I don’t imagine the car was badly damaged, but I shall be discreet and not mention the person who was driving the car . Austin had a filing draw in one of the cabinets in his library at his estate in Meadow Spring in Glen Cove that had a file folder for each car he ever bought and sold and the receipts, etc that went with the car. I am not sure if that file of all the cars went with the rest of his library to the Henry Ford Museum (now known as just The Henry Ford)
It is very nice to see after all these decades that the history if the car is finally being attempted to be sorted out; I only wish this had been done a quarter of a century ago when more people who were around and knew the car were still alive.
If Harrah’s bought the car from Austin, did they do it at one of the auctions he held at the L.I.A.M. ? if so it should be listed in one of the auction catalogs he published. I have most of these but at the moment am swamped with research and story commitments I have to finish to look further for those.

From The 1912 Moon Raceabout Owned by Henry Austin Clark Jr is heading to Pebble Beach (Updated: 7/19/16)

Jul 14 2016 Brian D McCarthy 12:47 PM

Always appreciate just how clear and detailed these older aerials are. I guess it also helps that there was a lot less of development, too.

From The 1938 U.S. Department of Agriculture Aerial Suvey of Nassau County #1: Searingtown to Garden City

Jul 13 2016 Frank Drebin 4:40 PM

Brian, I think it’s impossible to see this view from a current Google Map street view. I looked back at the 1966 aerial view, you can see the mound of roadway and trees where the photographer would have stood and how the angle would have show Salisbury Road rise over the Wantagh Parkway. It looks like it would have been where the entrance/exit and shuffleboard courts for the apartment complex are now.

From The Helck Family Memoirs: 1973 Newsday "What Ever Became of the Vanderbilt Parkway?" Updated 7/14/16

Jul 12 2016 Michael LaBarbera 10:25 AM

Seems odd that a top secret building in the defense business would house the UN, it probably would not happen that way these days, with all the turmoil going on around the world. But even back then why would they put internationals there at the start of the Cold War and Korea ?

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: The Sperry Gyroscope Plant in Lake Success on September 27, 1952

Jul 12 2016 Ted 1:11 AM

Hi all,don!t have much time for mystery solving anymore,busy here almost every day,many activities during the day and also at night,I’m lucky I have a chance to check things out here,to keep up to date what’s going on. I’m really enjoying it here.I can amagine how you are enjoying Shorty Howard,showing it off and driving it to the car shows,I hope. I don’t know if you know it or or not,but they have Classic Car Golf Carts here,what beauties they are,Antiques too,there’s one with electric windows and I think it’s the only one in existence,what do you think about that?he rates like you Howard. They have shows,cruise ins and all,just like cars. Like I said before,This Is The Place To Be,everything at your fingertips and a golf cart away, what can be better than that?. I’ll keep in touch when I can.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: The Sperry Gyroscope Plant in Lake Success on September 27, 1952

Jul 11 2016 Brian D McCarthy 9:58 PM

There’s others with worse medical issues than mine, Dave Russo. I just have to adjust and accept what I can and can’t do.

Glad you left the current street view of the 1973 photo. I was trying to match a street view on my PC today, but man; it’s frustrating to get it just right. Have to keep in mind this was more than 40 yrs ago. I hope whoevers paying attention agrees with the location of this 1973 photo.

From The Helck Family Memoirs: 1973 Newsday "What Ever Became of the Vanderbilt Parkway?" Updated 7/14/16

Jul 11 2016 Greg O. 9:41 PM

I realized after that my Grandfather was a gyroscope engineer at Sperry in the 30’s as well as post-war. I wish I had more memorabilia from his time there.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: The Sperry Gyroscope Plant in Lake Success on September 27, 1952

Jul 11 2016 Howard Kroplick 8:47 PM

From Gary Hammond:

Mystery Photo # 28 – Hammond’s Historical Happenings

ID of Building – Sperry Gyroscope Plant, Marcus Ave., Lake Success (bordered by Marcus Ave. / Lakeville Road / Union Turnpike; P.O. address is 1111 Marcus Ave.)

How is this building related to Israel? – The property was acquired in 1939 by the U.S. Government for use by Sperry.  The United Nations was established October 24, 1945; in August 1946 it moved to the Sperry Gyroscope plant in Lake Success; on November 29, 1947 a resolution was adopted by the U.N. General Assembly – “United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) Future Government of Palestine”, part of which included the boundaries of the Jewish State.

What is the orientation of the aerial? – looking South

What is the date of the aerial?  - circa 1945 (WWII) due to the Confidential marking, and the dark coloration of the buildings; no evidence of UN flagpoles in front; Sperry received at least four Army-Navy “E” for Excellence Awards during WWII

How is this aerial related to the Long Island Motor Parkway?  Bottom right hand corner shows the Northern State Parkway Motor Parkway Bridge

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: The Sperry Gyroscope Plant in Lake Success on September 27, 1952

Jul 11 2016 Steve 12:54 PM

Walked by this location yesterday going to the KFC. Thought of these photos!

From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Jericho Turnpike in Floral Park Looking Towards the LIRR Bridge

Jul 11 2016 frank femenias 11:37 AM

Those look like Robert Moses’ ‘twin’ bridges in bottom right corner that once stood apart just ~225’ above the NSP; the Lakeville Rd bridge (still there) and the abandoned, overgrown Motor Pkwy bridge (removed). So we must be above Willie K’s Deepdale Estate overlooking Lake Success towards the SE. Year is post 1938 after Motor Pkwy’s closing. That’s a rare view of the former Marcus Av/Lakeville Rd exit ramp off the NSP in bottom center. The historic building at center is Sperry Gyroscope Corporate offices but before it was used as United Nations HQ (1946-1952). So year of photo is 1938-1946. Today’s ramp was extended with NSP’s extension to handle heavier traffic.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: The Sperry Gyroscope Plant in Lake Success on September 27, 1952

Jul 10 2016 Dave Russo 10:54 PM

This picture from the article is looking EAST at Salisbury Park Drive (which was basically the Motor Parkway) from where the Old Westbury Road bridge was. I sent Howard the current picture. You can see the house on the right is exactly the same. We are looking at current location where Salisbury Park Drive goes over the Wantagh Pkwy. The Suburban Jewish Ctr is just before the Wantagh straight ahead on the right. The power station is just over the bridge on the right side. Original wood posts remain on the right side over this bridge today.

To all you guys—-I love the back and forth and LI history discussion in general. I’d love to meet you guys one day. Maybe we could have a group tour one day going to a few/several LIMP locations and discussing each one on site. Brian I’m sorry to hear about your situation. Would love to meet.

From The Helck Family Memoirs: 1973 Newsday "What Ever Became of the Vanderbilt Parkway?" Updated 7/14/16

Jul 10 2016 Greg O. 9:08 PM

I’ve been too busy this summer and haven’t had time to research mystery photos as much as I’d like to, so it’s nice to see when I can answer them mostly off the cuff!

Identify the historic building in the aerial.
-United Nations original, temporary location, (then later, Sperry where my Grandfather was engineering, designing and building gyroscopes for flight systems.)

How is this building related to Israel?
-The U.N. established Isreal. From Wikipedia;
On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a Partition Plan for Mandatory Palestine. This specified borders for new Arab and Jewish states and an area of Jerusalem which was to be administered by the UN under an international regime. The end of the British Mandate for Palestine was set for midnight on 14 May 1948. That day, David Ben-Gurion, the executive head of the Zionist Organization and president of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared “the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel”, which would start to function from the termination of the mandate. The borders of the new state were not specified in the declaration

What is the orientation of the aerial?
-Looking South/SouthEast

What is the date of the aerial? Provide a rationale.
-It was the U.N. from 1946-1952. I throw a guess out there, go in the middle and say 1948.

How is this aerial related to the Long Island Motor Parkway?
-The LIMP ran close by. The Moses N.State parkway bridge in the very lower right of the photo.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: The Sperry Gyroscope Plant in Lake Success on September 27, 1952

Jul 10 2016 Mike 6:40 PM

Anything to do with Grumann?

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: The Sperry Gyroscope Plant in Lake Success on September 27, 1952

Jul 10 2016 Brian D McCarthy 6:20 PM

Hi Frank Femenias. Hoping the surgery you had went well. After reading Frank Drebins comment about the location of the 1973 photo, it made more sense to me. 99% sure this photo is facing to the SE ( existing towers still on S/S of PSEG ROW ), and the Jewish Center building is visible on the Eastside of Old Westbury Rd. The pole with the street lamp is intended for Old Westbury Rd. There’s 2 woodpole lines parallel on the N/S of the ROW, the pole line w/3 xarms each is no more. And in the distance, I see the R/O the Newbridge Rd PSEG substation. If I was standing on the LIMP pavement seen, it would be right where the condo/apartment complex is on the SW intersection of Salisbury Park Dr/Old Westbury Rd.

From The Helck Family Memoirs: 1973 Newsday "What Ever Became of the Vanderbilt Parkway?" Updated 7/14/16

Jul 10 2016 Howard Kroplick 2:53 PM

From Jan H:

Gonna be some great clambake!

From Vanderbilt Museum Clam Bake on July 23, 2016: Willie K's Great-Great Granddaughter is Special Guest

Jul 10 2016 Howard Kroplick 2:42 PM

From Sam Coleman:

1?
2 east to west looking north
3 looks like in the late 40’s cause of the confidential they were making a lot of war products, lakeville road is still 2 lanes,
4 northern state is right there, was that the base for the Long Island Motor Parkway at that point

sam colman
now from NC
was from NHP

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: The Sperry Gyroscope Plant in Lake Success on September 27, 1952

Jul 10 2016 Howard Kroplick 2:33 PM

From Len Williams:

Howard,
      I believe this is the Sperry Gyroscope property which was also the first location of the United Nations immediately after World War II. I think this is where the UN voted on the formation of the State of Israel.
      The photo was taken looking southeast.
      It was taken sometime before 1953 because ground had not yet been broken for the Lake Success Shopping Center.
      The northern State parkway runs left and right across the bottom of the page and the LIMP bridge crosses the Northern State at the lower right corner of the page.
Sent from my iPad
Len Williams
McCready & Rice Plumbing Inc.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: The Sperry Gyroscope Plant in Lake Success on September 27, 1952

Jul 10 2016 S. Berliner, III 2:08 PM

Another give-away!  Sperry Gyroscope plant in Lake Success looking SSE.  On 29 Nov 1947 and 14 May 1948, while it was the temporary home of the UN, Palestine was to be partitioned and Israel was then formally partitioned out of Palestine.  Probably taken sometime between 1942 and 1945 (WWII security classification).  NS Pkwy across bottom, with Marcus Ave. just beyond; Lakeville Rd. at top right and lower right with abandoned LIMP bridges over NSP and Marcus at far lower right; Hillside Ave. is beyond plant with Union Tpke. and Jamaica Ave. (to right/W)-cum-Jericho Tpke. (to left/E) in far distance.  Oval driveway at 1111 Marcus Ave. still there in front of former Sperry office building which once housed UN.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: The Sperry Gyroscope Plant in Lake Success on September 27, 1952

Jul 10 2016 Steve Lucas 1:50 PM

That’s the Sperry Gyroscope building located at 1111 Marcus Avenue in Lake Success. From 1946 to 1951 it was the temporary headquarters for the United Nations. In 1947 the U.N. General Assembly passed Resolution 181 which divided the British Mandate of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab sections. This was the legal basis which lead to the establishment of the independent nation of Israel. The orientation appears to be south-south-east. Since the photo is marked “confidential” because Sperry was an important defense contractor during World War II, yet the parking fields don’t appear to be completely full, I’m thinking the date is 1945-1946. Along with Lakeville Road, Union Tpke., Marcus Avenue, and Northern State Pkwy. (top to bottom), there is the Long Island Motor Parkway going over the NSP in the lower right corner.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: The Sperry Gyroscope Plant in Lake Success on September 27, 1952

Jul 10 2016 Alan Sadwin 1:09 PM

It is Sperry Rand in Lake Success. Photo taken from Northwest probably during WW2 so I am gong to guess 1942. This building was also the first home of the United Nations. Israel was declared a state in this building.  The company was assembling bomber gun turrets during the war.

Lakeville Road goes from the bottom of photo to right. The Long Island Motor Parkway ran along what is now Lakeville Road

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: The Sperry Gyroscope Plant in Lake Success on September 27, 1952

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