Vanderbilt Cup Races

Thanks for sharing,,

From Long Island Motor Parkway Photos From the NYC Municipal Archives

Howard, Is there’s membership card of the Roslyn Historical Society that I think I am as a member? (fork over $25 to John C. at the end of the Preservation meet), Also how about membership card of the Motor Parkway Preservation Society. Like to brag!

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Howard Kroplick
Mark, no membership cards. But you can still brag!!

From Roslyn Landmark Society in the News (Updated: 2/21/2019)

Just to let you know that the present day photo of Jericho Turnpike and RR crossing (redone in recent times) is where I past thru to go to Home Depot on the left side other side of track. Sad that the beautiful bucolic scenery beyond the track of the old photo is all gone. Progress?

From Mystery Foto #1 Solved: Locust Grove Section of the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt, Sr., cousin of Willie K.  Died on the RMS Lusitania.
His racer was a 90 hp Fiat
Raced in 1904 and 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Races.  His chauffeur, Paul Sartori was the driver.

From Mystery Foto #2 Solved: Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt, Owner of Paul Sartori's FIAT

WOW! Who would’ve known? I’ve passed this unwittingly so many times. Thanks Al.

From Then & Now: The First Long Island Offices of the Long Island Motor Parkway, Inc.

Northwest corner

From Then & Now: The First Long Island Offices of the Long Island Motor Parkway, Inc.

Rabbit The First was in the Bob Bahre collection a few years ago.

From Henry Ford Museum 1966 Program: Sports Cars in Review

Funny, in the late ‘60s car buffs were bragging about achieving 400hp under the hood. These guys were already doing it in the late ‘30s. I’m guessing WWII and the Korean war slowed up progress

From From the Simeone Foundation: A Peter Helck Sketch of Two Vanderbilt Cup Race Winners

Tom - A favorite 1931 Queens shot, entrance to Mt. Hebron cemetery at Horace Harding Expwy looking east. This road remains today the busiest thoroughfare connecting Queens and Nassau. In 1926, Rodman St (Strongs Causeway) was only one of 3 roads crossing Queens through the Flushing Creek’d ash dump, now Flushing Meadow Park, The other two were Northern Blvd far north, and Union Tpke further south. In 1939, an overpass was put here (for the World’s Fair) allowing Rodman to go under Nassau Blvd (Horace Harding Blvd). Now the LIExpwy, Rodman is permanently severed and the only way across now is through College Point Blvd. It’s still jam packed with cars today on the LIE. Photos can be found here.
http://nycma.lunaimaging.com/luna/servlet/view/search?search=SUBMIT&q=rodman+street&dateRangeStart;=&dateRangeEnd;=&QuickSearchA=QuickSearchA

From Long Island Motor Parkway Photos From the NYC Municipal Archives

1924 aerial of Nassau Blvd and Rodman Street
http://maps.nyc.gov/doitt/nycitymap/?z=8&p=1030005,210470&c=GIS1924&s=a:130-06,60+AVENUE,QUEENS

From Long Island Motor Parkway Photos From the NYC Municipal Archives

I believe the 2-17-31 shot corresponds to this view today.
https://goo.gl/maps/ds2biATv7ut

From Long Island Motor Parkway Photos From the NYC Municipal Archives

The image should William K. Vanderbilt II, not of his father as shown. But I don’t think either one of them mind at all.

From Roslyn News: A Day with the Vanderbilts

I agree with Brian, photographer standing on southeast side of kiosk looking northwest. Photographer and Chief both standing on the entrance ramp not yet paved, as seen in the opposite West view photo. Doorway faces the entrance ramp. Horses standing on Jericho Tpke, it’s about 2pm, and in the distance over the Chief’s left shoulder could be the Hillside Ave parkway bridge. Great photos!

From Surveyor Clinton Robertson Photo Album: The Jericho Toll Lodge (Kiosk) in Mineola

2-17-31, there’s a lot of signs on that pole!

From Long Island Motor Parkway Photos From the NYC Municipal Archives

I’m going to say that they printed a photo of WKV senior instead of Willie K Jr.

From Roslyn News: A Day with the Vanderbilts

-Which Vanderbilt Cup Racer did he own?
-Which Vanderbilt Cup Race(s) did he enter his racer?

Owner of the FIAT driven by Paul Sartori in the 1904 and 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Races.

-In what other ways was he connected to the Vanderbilt Cup Races and the Long Island Motor Parkway?

Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt (1877-1915) was William K. Vanderbilt Jr.‘s cousin

From Mystery Foto #2 Solved: Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt, Owner of Paul Sartori's FIAT

Alfred Vanderbilt, who sacrificed his own life so that others could survive on the doomed RMS Lusitania.

From Mystery Foto #2 Solved: Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt, Owner of Paul Sartori's FIAT

“East View of Toll Gate” image was taken from southeast to northwest, I think. The 3 are pictured in the shadow cast by the afternoon sun. The youngest looking one nicknamed “Chief” couldn’t possibly be in charge of the older 2 ( unless he’s an unknown Vanderbilt ). “Van” is short for the name Vance. Maybe Al’s book has names of Kiosk collectors?

From Surveyor Clinton Robertson Photo Album: The Jericho Toll Lodge (Kiosk) in Mineola

Thanks for the nice words, Frank and Brian. Yes, the LIRR had a Wading River extension from 1895-1938/39 going east from Port Jefferson.  Lots on the internet about it, some railroad fans would probably enjoy tracing its route.  Here’s one site.
http://lioddities.com/transprotation/lirr-wading-river-branch.html

From Mystery Foto #1 Solved: Locust Grove Section of the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

Howard, thank you!  Never seen this drawing of my Grandfather George.  Will try and visit the museum   Best wishes, Peter
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Howard Kroplick

Peter, Dr. Simeone would be thrilled to meet you. I suggest calling the museum in advance of the visit.

From From the Simeone Foundation: A Peter Helck Sketch of Two Vanderbilt Cup Race Winners