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Yes Dave, I agree with your reply to everyone, hard to believe so much remains. You can close your eyes when you do your discoveries and imagine,,,,

From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #5 Williston Park

Queens Village looking north over Creedmoor Hospital.

Winchester Blvd, upper left corner and Winchester BLVD bridge
Motor parkway seen in upper part as well.
Year was likely 1920s, early 1930s, before build up of Union Tpke.

Complex opened in 1912 as Farm Colony of Brooklyn State Hospital.

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: Creedmoor State Hospital in Queens (Circa 1927-1931)

We’re looking northeast over the Creedmoor (now Glen Oaks) section of Queens. Other than the LIMP in the upper left, there is Commomwealth Blvd. running north-south to the right of the complex. The Creedmoor highway bridge is also visible over the LIMP. I’m going to guess the date to be around 1930 since the Brooklyn State Hospital at Creedmoor complex is well established yet there is no evidence of the Union Turnpike extension having even been started.

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: Creedmoor State Hospital in Queens (Circa 1927-1931)

Kinda has to be the Pilgrim State Hospital (today’s Pilgrim Psychiatric Center) campus prior to the LIE or the Sagtikos, looking (LI) east, with the LIMP at upper left curving to run under Wicks Avenue.  College Road at right and Washington Avenue at the far right.  Wild guesses - that blur under the bridge might be a toll entrance and the year late 1930’s because Pilgrim is well developed but there is no LIE or SSP.  [No fun cheating.]  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: Creedmoor State Hospital in Queens (Circa 1927-1931)

Dave - understood. So the N-S running posts (here running perpendicular to the LIMP) are ONLY on the south side of the LIMP. Those posts must be indicating the “S property line” labeled on the attached 1909 survey. It’s possible there could be more N-S running posts on the north side of LIMP at the “N property line” (further east by the lodge), as Croyden Ct today occupies only half of this former property line. That’ll be worth a visit soon.

From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #6 East Williston

Joseph Leo Hunsberger

The MM Academy did a great job! Makes one Proud of our troops and our country!

From Highlights from the Regimental Activities NAFI Auto Show at the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy

Bob, so you didn’t mention…did you ever ask the homeowner of the lodge anything about the LIMP?? Did you even know about it at the time??

From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #6 East Williston

Sorry….maybe I’m not explaining this properly. See my attached sketch.

As you all know, typically the posts run in line with the LIMP. Whatever direction the LIMP is heading, Posts can be on either side.

In this location, posts run AWAY from the LIMP. My guess is it’s outlining the lodge property line? But I don’t know and you don’t see this at any other lodge location.

From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #6 East Williston

MY LIFE WITH THE LIMP.  I did knock on that door of the lodge when delivering mail.  Think when I was doing that there was a family of Italian heritage in residence.  Also when I was much younger and able to bike from Foxcroft Rd., I think the lodge was painted yellow.  This was in the late 50’s.  Thanks for the memories.  Wish I was with ya.

From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #6 East Williston

I can only guess Farmingdale state college. The 2nd photo seems to be limp bridge over what is now Melville road.Building in the upper right is probably a power plant,generator?More likely perhaps a heating plant? Could it be a steam boiler.If I’m correct,the view would be South.The sand pits,where the LIMP bridge is located, is a couple of miles north,on the other side of Spagnoli Rd.My guess is LIMP turned north towards the sand pits.It looks like LIMP was removed for college construction. OR… I’m wrong.

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: Creedmoor State Hospital in Queens (Circa 1927-1931)

Great Story and photos.

” this is a pic on the Roslyn Lodge land looking west…notice the posts going from north to south - this is not the case at any other location. “

Don’t POSTS also go north and south across BATTLE ROW from the hydrant to Bethpage-Spagnoli Road, along the strip near Glen Cove Road,  after Dead Man’s Curve and a short run east of Bethpage Restoration Bridge when they dive south
?

From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #6 East Williston

I’ll take a shot on this rainy Mother’s Day morning… Pilgrim State Hospital. A Happy Day to all the Moms, despite the rain!

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: Creedmoor State Hospital in Queens (Circa 1927-1931)

The Creedmoor Hospital complex about 1932 looking northeast.with the Winchester Boulevard bridge over the LIMP visible at top left

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: Creedmoor State Hospital in Queens (Circa 1927-1931)

Great exploration/pics again Sam and Dave. I also find very few know about the Motor Parkway as well, as it sleeps quietly for 80 years (the GCP is 80 years old too). It’s time to wake her up again!
Dave, did you mean a continuous lineup of posts on both sides of LIMP? If so, I’ll have to visit there soon. The 1909 survey shows the N-S property lines misaligned.

From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #6 East Williston

1) Creedmoor State Hospital, Southwest facing Northeast.
2) Top left is the Creedmoor underpass. Winchester Blvd is to the left.
3) Around 1923-1924. See photos. 1924 is when the powerplant and rail spur were completed, along with the upgrades to patients’ buildings.
4) Farm Colony of Brooklyn State Hospital

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: Creedmoor State Hospital in Queens (Circa 1927-1931)

Happy belated Birthday Howard!

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: Creedmoor State Hospital in Queens (Circa 1927-1931)

-Identify the location and orientation of the photographer.

Looking North-NorthEast down at Creedmore in Queens.

-Identify the major roads and the Motor Parkway structure(s).

The LI Motor Parkway section just after Winchester Blvd is in the upper left hand portion. The Creedmore Bridge can clearly be seen.

-What year was this aerial taken? Provide a rationale.

Creedmore’s building 70 and 71 appear to be towards the beginning of their construction. They opened in 1929, so my guess would be 1927 being that they were in the beginning phases.

-What was the name of the building complex when this photo was taken?

I want to say the Farm Colony of Brooklyn State Hospital, but I would have thought it was just Creedmore at this time.

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: Creedmoor State Hospital in Queens (Circa 1927-1931)

Second thought- It could also be Edgewood in Central Islip (Brentwood South); It also had a coal trestle.

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: Creedmoor State Hospital in Queens (Circa 1927-1931)

Its the Kings Park Psychiatric Center. The railroad trestle for the coal boiler gives it away. Orientation is looking Northeast.

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: Creedmoor State Hospital in Queens (Circa 1927-1931)

Happy 70th Birthday Howard! 

Identify the location and orientation of the photographer. 
Queens Village, photographer was in a plane looking northeast.

Identify the major roads and the Motor Parkway structure(s).  Motor Parkway and Union Turnpike, more a dirt road before its widening.  The Creedmoor Pedestrian Bridge over the Motor Parkway (white area north of the buildings).

What year was this aerial taken? Provide a rationale.  1926 - prior to widening of Union Turnpike, new construction going on at Creedmoor (and as per Brooklyn Daily Eagle picture and caption below).

What was the name of the building complex when this photo was taken?
Creedmoor State Hospital for the Care of the Insane.

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: Creedmoor State Hospital in Queens (Circa 1927-1931)