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From Kleiner's Korner: From the Helck Family Collection: Al Poole Wins at Brighton Beach in 1910 with a Little Known Mechanic
Art, Since you stated that little is known about Schluchtner, I had to check out Ancestry, and I came up with a few things (see attached). Ubert Carl Schluchtner was born June 6, 1886 in N.Y. He was one of 5 children born to Charles William and Jennie A. Schluchtner. He would get married on Oct. 20, 1927. The earliest mention I could find was the 1892 NYS Census where 5 yr old Ubert & family lived at 257 Hooper St, Brooklyn. His Dad’s occupation was in Iron. In the 1900 U.S. Census 14 year old Ubert was living with his family at 55 Bedford St., Brooklyn. The 1913 Brooklyn Directory listed him as: “Schluchtner Ubert auto supplies 1455 Bedford av H 551 Bedford av”. The 1917 Draft Reg. lists him as still living at 551 Bedford av, but his occupation is now Vaudeville artist! In 1920 he’s an Actor, and 5 years later listed as a Professional Actor, living at 2574 Bedford Ave.
From Kleiner's Korner: From the Helck Family Collection: Al Poole Wins at Brighton Beach in 1910 with a Little Known Mechanic
Sam. As you pointed out, we seem to keep losing what little is left of the Parkway. I wonder if we can partner with the Smithsonian Institute In this matter. In 2001 they acquired 12 sections of the original concrete Route 66 in Oklahoma These were installed in the National Museum of American History building It was quite an undertaking as each section weighed around 9300 pounds. If my recollection is right, the were made part of the floor of the permanent America on the Move exhibit which opened in 2003. I wonder if they would have an interest in acquiring a section of the Motor Parkway, it certainly has more of a history when it comes to automobiles and roadways. They already have the Vanderbilt Cup Race trophy, not on display though.
From Update: Garden City Board of Trustees Met and Agreed Not to Destroy the Long Island Motor Parkway Pavement & Concrete
Loved flying on the goose with Antilles Airboats in the 70’s. I would ride in the co-pilot seat and hand crank the gear up before takeoff. Those big radial engines sounded great taxiing up the ramp!
From Flying Boat/Seaplane of the Week: Grumman G-21 Goose "Duckling" (NC-1692) Owned by E. Roland Harriman
Brian, The Raymond Court residents are rightly furious as they were not even notified or made aware of the creation of the parking spaces on the Parkway ROW. Want to know how crazy the whole idea is ? It is going to cost almost $500,000 to build 45 parking spaces… And, those are going to be only on the south side of the ROW in a north/south alignment. If they put those spaces on the north side of the Parkway it, wouldn’t be necessary to cover the concrete extensions Good point about the foul balls.
From Update: Garden City Board of Trustees Met and Agreed Not to Destroy the Long Island Motor Parkway Pavement & Concrete
*Location, Orientation, Airport: East Farmingdale, Suffolk County NY. Viewing north & east, Republic Airport; previously Fairchild Airfield.
*Location of the LIMP: Along the upper part of the image.
*Date: Around 1950. Appears younger than 1947, but older than 1954.
From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: The Republic Airport in East Farmingdale in 1951
So very interesting details…Even the cashed check etc…
From Kleiner's Korner: From the Helck Family Collection: Al Poole Wins at Brighton Beach in 1910 with a Little Known Mechanic
1. I’m pretty sure it’s Republic Field, now a general aviaton airport. I took my son to flying lessons there starting when he was 11 years old. He is now a pilot for one of the majors. The view is looking NE. The runways were extended, realigned and redone through the years after the War.
2. To the East is New Highway, north/south, with the Pinelawn Cemetery a little east and to the north, which is visible in the photo.
3. Had to have been taken during WWII. The plant abuts to the north; cars can be seen in employees parking lot.
4. The LIMP was way to the north on Rte. 110.
5. A movie theatre, big box and other stores now exist where the plant and employee parking lot. I haven’t been back to Republic for 16 years, so I don’t know if the stores have changed.
From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: The Republic Airport in East Farmingdale in 1951
I was born in Brooklyn in 1948, but grew up in Fresh Meadows. When my friends and I rode our bikes on the “Vanderbilt Parkway” from the Peck Avenue entrance all the way to Creedmor, we kind of knew that it was an old road that was no longer in use. It would have been wonderful had we known its history and significance.
I’m now almost 72 years old and living in Phoenix. What I’ve come to learn through the years is that the aphorism “history informs the present” is true. Indeed, when I drove as a hack in the City during my law school years, I drove through the Central Park “transverses” frequently and appreciated that the design of the overpasses, which held the interior roadway around Central Park for horses and carriages during the 19th Century, and then motor vehicles during the 20th and 21st, until recently banned, foretold the future of limited access highways in NY.
In a word, it’s “disgraceful” that alternatives can’t be found for a parking lot so that the significance of the small extant portion of the pavement and extensions of the LIMP as it curves around Rossevelt Field can be preserved as part of a living historical museum, instead of hiding it and posting a plaque about it. To my mind, the entire Roosevelt Field area should be made a living history museum. As any trial lawyer knows, real evidence in three dimensions is more readily appreciated than two dimensional plane images (photographs or videos). Nassau County and the Village of Garden City, where I once had my office, must accept responsiblity to preserve what has been left of its past so that it can be appreciated today and for the generations to follow.
From Update: Garden City Board of Trustees Met and Agreed Not to Destroy the Long Island Motor Parkway Pavement & Concrete
Howard,
I contacted the Garden City office Thursday but no one ever responded. I am glad it looks like we will at least preserve the ROW, unlike the loss in Levittown back back 2013
From Update: Garden City Board of Trustees Met and Agreed Not to Destroy the Long Island Motor Parkway Pavement & Concrete
From Art Kleiner:
And the accompanying article from the same publication.
From Mystery Foto #36: A Locomobile Limo with a Vanderbilt Cup Radiator Mascot
From Art Kleiner:
Here’s Harry Grant showing off his Alco Tour car adorned with the Vanderbilt Cup and a Locomotive as hood mascots. (The Motor World June 16, 1910)
From Mystery Foto #36: A Locomobile Limo with a Vanderbilt Cup Radiator Mascot
Location: Farmingdale, NY // Republic Airfield, starting out by Sherman Fairchild in
1927-28, Grumman using it in 1932-1937, Seversky coming in 1935 and became
Republic Airfield. Sold to Fairchild- Hiller and other FBO’s then to the MTA and now
under NYS DOT operation. Runways: 14/32 and was extended S/E and 10/19.
LIMP is at the top of the photo going west to east. Photo Date: 1930’s - 1940’s
From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: The Republic Airport in East Farmingdale in 1951
I believe now it was destruction, not construction of the west bridge. Thanks Al.
From Updated: Mystery Foto #17 Solved: The Meadowbrook Polo Club Bridge over the Motor Parkway
Al - You bring up great points. Construction or demolition? The photo showing exposed rebar is likely demolition, but it is unknown if this series of photos were all taken at the same time. In my opinion they were. The photo properties/quality are all the same, likely taken at the same time. So we’re likely witnessing the demolition of a bridge. I’m almost certain the mystery photo is looking southeast towards the west bridge, with different light accent on each abutment wall, providing photo orientation. It is still unclear which bridge was removed first; neither one had an urgency to be removed, being in their remote location. With the aerial that Greg presented (below), you can see the west bridge descending into the newly built east polo field area. I love this great detective work. We’ll get it solved soon!
From Updated: Mystery Foto #17 Solved: The Meadowbrook Polo Club Bridge over the Motor Parkway
Identify the location, airport and orientation of the photographer
> The photographer is at a few thousand feet above Farmingdale Republic Airport looking generally north
Although not visible, where is the Motor Parkway in the aerial?
> I would not be too sure there isn’t a few pixels of the LIMP as it runs left and right along the top of this photo.
Link this airport with many of the aerials on VanderbiltCupRaces.com .
> Google was not my friend on this.
What other historic property can be seen in the Mystery Foto?
> Pinelawn Cemetary is on the top right.
Broadhollow Road / Rt 110 runs left top to center bottom.
The buildings of Republic Aviation are at the north end of the field.
What was the date of the Mystery Foto? Provide a rationale.
> Post 1939 when Republic took over from Grumman and built the three hangers and control tower.
With all the activity there I would put 1945 as the latest date.
Current Overhead:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6955423,-73.4216622,1893a,35y,355.05h,66.55t/data=!3m1!1e3
From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: The Republic Airport in East Farmingdale in 1951
Wonder how the Raymond Ct residents feel about of what’s to be? Future parking area will be VERY close to the ballfields. Good chance of some foul balls landing on vehicles.
From Update: Garden City Board of Trustees Met and Agreed Not to Destroy the Long Island Motor Parkway Pavement & Concrete
This is the Republic Fairchild airport and aircraft factory in Farmingdale. The photographer is looking north with rt 110 (Broadhollow Rd) running from top to bottom on a left to right diagonal. Just north of the plant is Conklin Street and the LIRR main line. https://sites.google.com/site/lirepublicairporths/new2 has a picture from the 1950s that seems to match. The LILCO gas globe is also a clincher. Judging from the large number of cars in the parking lot and their approximate style, this would be the 1950s. Pinelawn National Cemetery would be in the upper right of the photo. That may be the Pinelawn RR station in the extreme upper right corner. The Motor Parkway would be along the north and east boundaries of the cemetery.
From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: The Republic Airport in East Farmingdale in 1951
-Identify the location, airport and orientation of the photographer
Looking North up Route 110 at What is now Republic Airport in Farmingdale.
-Although not visible, where is the Motor Parkway in the aerial?
Way up on the top far off in the background starting from about where the sand pits are, to around Colonial Springs Rd.
-Link this airport with many of the aerials on VanderbiltCupRaces.com.
The flying field was developed in 1928 and was originally owned and operated by Fairchild Engine & Airplane Manufacturing Company who was responsible for photographing many of the aerials.
-What other historic property can be seen in the Mystery Foto?
Very far off, but unseen is the Huntington Historical cemetery, St. Rose home for girls, the future site of the National Cemetery, and maybe a blob that might be the Huntington Toll lodge?
-What was the date of the Mystery Foto? Provide a rationale.
Judging by buildings, runways and similar look to other aerials, I’ll say 1954.
From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: The Republic Airport in East Farmingdale in 1951
No longer being a Nassau resident, I have no say in this appalling matter but I beg all of you to move Heaven and earth prevent such desecration. We lost when LIPA went ahead and bulldozed the beautiful banked curve in Bethpage S.P., <http://sbiii.com/limpxpl2.html#bspatroc> and <http://sbiii.com/limpxpl3.html#bspevdnc>; let’s not let it happen again, PLEASE. DO SOMETHING! Sam, III
From Update: Garden City Board of Trustees Met and Agreed Not to Destroy the Long Island Motor Parkway Pavement & Concrete
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