Vanderbilt Cup Races

The 1925 Dodge Suburban you restored wouldn’t happen to be dark blue with light blue trim on wheels and light blue dashboard would be

From From the Hugh Nutting Collection: Insight into the Woodies of Huntington's J.T. Cantrell and Company

Great answers by all; more technical history was learned here. The additional aerial was great help Howard! It help fill the scenario of the mystery photo. Thank you Howard and everyone for your knowledge of this early Long Island history.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

The 2 maps below MAY show where Mr. Baruch had a bridge built over the LIMP for easier access to his Nursery. What I point out as a bridge is quite faint, but is near the intersection of the LIMP & Bagatelle Rd. I haven’t luck lately locating 1938 aerials within the Stony Brook Collection, recall those maps being pretty clear. The terrain is high in this area, must have been tricky constructing the bridge. Old ads describe the main entrance to the Nursery on Bagatelle Rd. Any chance this bridge was noted on a updated Motor Pkwy Atlas?

From Kleiner's Korner: Part V - Motor Parkway Maps and More

From Art Kleiner:
Information pertaining to the participation of motorcyclists in the 1904, 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Races has been added at the beginning of this post.

From Kleiner's Korner: UPDATE: Part 1 - Motorcycles Used during the Vanderbilt Cup Races and on The Motor Parkway

All this old blog searching turned up a reference, in the 25 Sep 2009 post, “Film ‘The Long Island Automotive Museum’” to Austie having owned a Bugatti Royale (Type 41).  Not so’s I recall.  Didn’t want to reopen the 2009 thread so I’ll put it here.  He MIGHT have had a Type 46 or 50 which had those same (or similar) giant one-piece wheels and so looked much like a Royale, although I don’t remember any such, either, and doubt it.  I do remember seeing a 46 or 50 out there once, but I don’t think it was in the collection, only visiting or loaned.  Any corroboration?  Sam, III

From Highlights from the Long Island Jewish Medical Center Drive-By Parade, Sunday, June 14, 2020

Oog!  When I goof, I goof BIG!  The ‘27 Mercedes S was NOT 147.6” w/b but “only” 134” w/b, as I note on the 1946 VMCCA Jubilee/Mineola Fair Grounds blog.  Sorry ‘bout that.  Also, the old car parade to which I refer here was the one out at Austie Clark’s 1948 museum opening in Southampton (I theenk), not the ‘46 one.  By the way, purists, he was very much known as “Austie”, even by Wally, and not just because I say so - see attached invitation to the opening (from this site).  Sam, III

From Highlights from the Long Island Jewish Medical Center Drive-By Parade, Sunday, June 14, 2020

Hmm.  There’s a white 134” wheelbase 1927 S or 1928-30 SS Modell Mercedes, as I noted in the LIJ Highlights blog post (q.v.), pulling away from the throng at 0:34 - 0:38 in parade sequence and (blurrily) at 1:13 in the race sequence, but it’s NOT Chas. Addams’ car.  Wonder whose it was.  Sam, III

From Update: The 1946 VMCCA Jubilee Anniversary at the Mineola Fair Grounds

This amazing crispy photo is over Lake Success looking WNW. A good portion of Vanderbilt Deepdale Estate’s 560 acres is viewed in the jungle area and more. Marcus Av bottom left, NSP bottom right, Lakeville Rd and bridge in the center, Motor Pkwy bridge hiding behind Lakeville Rd, Great Neck lodge entrance/exit ramp at extreme right center. Lakeville Rd was once used in a VCR race. Deepdale Estate and Guest lodge (later NYS Police Barracks), LIMP bridge west over NSP (built by Robert Moses), Great Neck lodge entrance/exit ramp, all associated with Willie K and the Motor Pkwy. Autos parked beside Marcus Av possibly for additional parking for the UN Headquarters or Sperry. Year of photo is tricky, will try to come back for more.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Great seeing this 1946 race footage (2 months after I was born).  It’s unlikely I got to see it in person, having spent the day instead on Ave M in Brooklyn - while family & friends listened to the Dodger game at nearby Ebbets Field!

From Update: The 1946 VMCCA Jubilee Anniversary at the Mineola Fair Grounds

That side view at top makes the car look enormously long.  I didn’t remember it being THAT long and that got me curious and so I checked.  According to your specs, the Bête Noir has “only” a 134” wheelbase.  Just for examples readily to hand, the Chas. Adams 1927 S-Modell Mercedes driven in the old-car parade had a 147.6” w/b, my 1931 CG Chrysler Imperial 8 had a 145” w/b, and my 1949 C-46 Chrysler NYer 8s had 131½” w/bs (but the NYers had long rear overhangs).  Your 1938 C-19 Chrysler’s Chrysler 8 has a 144” w/b and also a long rear overhang.  [Just what everyone needs to know, eh?]  Appearances sure are deceiving!  Sam, III

From Highlights from the Long Island Jewish Medical Center Drive-By Parade, Sunday, June 14, 2020

Looking west over Marcus Avenue, Lake Success. NSP, Lakeville Rd. (cup race road, and the remains of LIMP can be seen, as well as the beginnings of Fawn Ridge, Olive St., and Tanners Rd. The Deepdale mansion and guest lodge can be seen in the picture.

By deduction, this picture has to be taken after 1951 and before 1953.
The 1951 NYC aerial that includes this part of Nassau County still shows the two eastbound NSP exits to Marcus Avenue, whereas this photo shows only some remains of exit that was discontinued.

The parking lot to the west of the oval is larger than the lot in the 1951 aerial.
North of NSP houses that were built in 1953 (Zillow) have yet to be constructed and the transaction that enabled this development dates to 12/1951. Given this narrow window, the picture must be from Summer 1952.

The cars parked are Sperry employees because the United Nations had left the site in May, 1951. A picture dated 5/18/1951 looking N from slightly behind the western edge of the U.N. temporary HQ building, posted by the Brazil Mission UN (pic.twitter.com/xSSmRl5KtS), shows some of the features of the mystery photo, with matching trees slightly shorter.

This answer supports some comments to the Mystery Foto #28 of July 11, 2016. That post states the UN had its headquarters from 1946 to 1952, a common misstatement that some there correct. That photo must be from before 1951 as the current eastbound exit does not yet exist as some commenters also note there.

In that post, two other pictures are listed as “Sperry Plant, circa 1952,” which also appear elsewhere on this site so labeled. While the second picture is consistent to 1952, the first picture with the country flags cannot be from that year as the country flags had been removed by 1952. From trees that are visible, the flags picture is pre-1950 and likely from 1946-47. Apologies, if this error was corrected in a later post that I did not see.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

View is NW above Lake Success NY. Lakeville Rd was part of the 1905 & 1906 VCR’s. North of Marcus Ave. must have been additional parking for the United Nations, they were housed within the Sperry Plant   1946 thru 1952. Think they stayed a little longer than 1952. This mystery foto shows the onset of Tanners Rd & Olive St. The 1952 aerial below still shows farmland. The 1956 aerial shows full development. So I’m guessing 1954. Hope my wording on the aerial answers the other questions ????

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

We are looking northwest over Marcus Avenue in the North New Hyde Park / Lake Success area. In addition to Marcus Avenue, there is also Lakeville Road and the Northern State Parkway. The 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race course utilized this portion of Lakeville Road. The 1906 race also used Lakeville Road but that section is just out of the picture to the north. We can see the LIMP bridge over the NSP, Willie K’s Deepdale Estate, possibly the remnants of an abutment for the bridge over Marcus Avenue, and a small section of the LIMP itself. I thought the Great Neck lodge would be visible but it must be just off the right side. Judging by the cars in the photo, I would guess the date to be about 1954. If this date is accurate, then the cars all belong to employees of Sperry Gyroscope, located on the south side of Marcus Avenue. The U. N. Headquarters had moved to their new site in 1951.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Looking NW over confluence of LIMP, NSP, Marcus, and Lakeville with both bridges over NSP visible, Lake Success beyond, and Willie’s Deepdale mansion deep in der voods.  Parking for nascent UN at Sperry or for war-time Sperry?  LIMP RoW barely visible to E of Lakeville at right margin (1/3-way down).  Anothe rgret pic; thanks.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

That “shack” in the first small pic is almost-certainly a pump house.  Sam, III

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 2 - Motorcycling on the Motor Parkway

Yeeks!  Just think about it.  That was a 50 year span; it is now SEVENTY-THREE (*73*) years later!  Whooie - was Shaw ever sexist!  Sam, III

From Update: The 1946 VMCCA Jubilee Anniversary at the Mineola Fair Grounds

Location is Lake Success Ny view west
2. Lakeville Road crossing Northern State Parkway, Marcus Ave is parallel left to Northern State Parkway
3. Motor Parkway far right to be crossing Lakeville Road and crossing Northhern State Parkway concealed by foliage upper left
4 upper right by the bordering east side of lake are the 2 building associated with the Vandebilt races and william K Vanderbilt Jr
5 Automobiles parked for Sperry Rand and overflow from UN temporary building
6 photo taken about 1951, new lighting( Taller poles) on Northern State Parkway and newly constructed exit ramp , original was closer to Lakeville Road

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

Looking northeast from Marcus Avenue from the “entrance/exit Ave to the eastbound Northern State Parkway for Lakeville Rd.  very near my office in the Lake Success Quadrangle (of the future). The Motor Parkway Bridge is visible, as are Lake Success and the entrance/exit to the Sperry Rand facilities on the other side of Marcus Avenue. It’s hard for me, with my eyes, to discern whether any of the parked cars are “modern” (1946-1950). If so, the Sperry facilities became the temporary HQ Secretariat of the UN; there’s a plaque there today.

From Mystery Foto #24 Solved: A 1952 Aerial View of Lake Success

The back parking lot sits on the old motor parkway.
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Howard Kroplick

Mark, you are correct: https://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/mystery_friday_foto_38_where_in_the_world_is_this_section_or_the_long_islan

From Highlights from the Long Island Jewish Medical Center Drive-By Parade, Sunday, June 14, 2020

great video - one of the cars in the film was a 1910 Mercedes town car that I bought with a partner at a Auction at the Javits Center in NYC, in early 1990’s
The 1947 Glidden Tour (second of the revised tour, 1946 was the first)
started in Hartford
there was a car display in the State Armony and a special CT license plate was issued for the month of Sept 1947

From Update: The 1946 VMCCA Jubilee Anniversary at the Mineola Fair Grounds