Vanderbilt Cup Races

It was good to know that you went to see car and that it’s coming along fine

From Chrysler’s Chrysler Chronicle II: Restoration of the Doors, Rear Fenders and Skirts

Mozel Tov to all That was great of you Howard

From Jason and Tracy Owen Celebrate Their Wedding

Joe Dawson

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: Family Photos of Driver Joe Dawson

Gentlemen… that is, Messrs. Frank and Sam III,
Whilst I am indeed now baffled as to the location of these two bridges, having lived “somewhere near the Huntington Lodge” (1937 thru 1955/6 inclusive), that being perhaps, 300 - 500 feet South of the intersection of Route 110 and Ruland Rd—on Route 110 (directly across from LILCO lighting pole 50/51, just North of the Huntington/Babylon township monument, there not then being any other means of identifying the location of our farm), I would claim some knowledge of the area.
That said, whether we were given to understand that the bridges were East or West of Route 110—the identifyer “somewhere near the Huntington Lodge” would have had to have been a slam dunk, but, here we are now, replete with confusion with the question now being just what is meant by “somewhere near the Huntington Lodge”, i.e., how many miles East or West of Route 110 are these bridges supposed to have been—comparing, for example, the distance between the Huntington Lodge and Ruland Rd to the East, and the Powell Avenue and NIbbe Farmway bridges to the West (these being highway bridges—not parkway)?
Finally, as to the “many changes” that I must have seen… well, not really, for, not at least til after the mid fifties, for, if I close my eyes and lean back in a darkened quiet room I can still recall hearing the jet engines being run-up at night at Republic Field… what, a further two miles South of our farm.  Accordingly, why not carry this forward as a project—not a contest, a project in which you might find other older individuals who might still be living—and with fotografs to contribute at that?
P.S. As and aside, I also remember visiting, by bicycle via LIMP, a Mrs. Hairston, wife of the Democratic Commissioner of Elections in Suffolk County, whose home was on first on South side of Colonial Springs Rd from the Pinelawn intersection, and I believe a snippest of that olde farmhouse itself is visible from Google, and perhaps, contrubuted contributed as well by another of your supporters?)
Edith

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

Exciting…..

From Chrysler’s Chrysler Chronicle II: Restoration of the Doors, Rear Fenders and Skirts

Hi Howard,

Congrats!
As a fellow car enthusiast and classic cars website owner, I am happy for you!
We certainly do have quite a large following here on Long Island. One of the hotbeds in the country for classic cars!
You have done a great job with the history you keep alive and educate us with.

Now if I can just get my website redone the way I want - maybe I’ll get a “Webby” too one day!

Congrats again!
Pete Giordano
Long Island Classic Cars.com
http://www.licclassiccars.com

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Selected as One of the Five Best in the World for "Car Sites & Car Culture"

Sorry; can’t be “looking south on the Motor Parkway towards the Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge”.  Nibbe and Powell are far closer together and there’s no gentle left curve between them.  Also, no one has explained why there would be a no parking notice for “west of Huntington Lodge” if we’re facing east in Nassau.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

Looks like it may be Joe Dawson. He drove a Marmon to 2nd place in the 1910 Vanderbilt Cup.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: Family Photos of Driver Joe Dawson

Quite an achievement , you have my vote!

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Selected as One of the Five Best in the World for "Car Sites & Car Culture"

Hi Elise:

Thanks for your comment!!

If you wish to share these photos, please email jpegs to me at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) .

From Then & Now: The Home of Driver Foxhall Keene in Old Westbury

When did they strip off all the growth that used to cover most of the road there? When I was there in 2007 or so it was hard to find much pavement. That section looks great!

From Then & Now: The Roslyn Lodge and the Motor Parkway Bridge over Roslyn Road

Hi Edith,
It was suggested that the two bridges in the mystery photo were once located in Bethpage Park, west of Broadhollow Road (Route 110). The Powell Avenue highway bridge and the Nibbe’s farmway bridge most likely, were the bridges portrayed in the photo. This stretch of Motor Parkway ran between today’s Powell Avenue and Revere Avenue, where Route 135’s southbound lanes are now located. I believe the farmway bridge noted by Mr. Schmidtt may be the Baker’s farmway bridge that was located 150 feet east of Maxess Road. The abutments of that bridge are still there. The Baker’s farmway bridge is also known as the Maxess Road bridge and is located between Republic Road and the Ruland Road Bridge. It would be surprising if another farmway bridge should pop up in this area. I have no doubt you must have seen Many changes there through the years from Long Island’s rapid growth.

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

I have pictures of interior. This was my grandparents house.  I have a few stories to tell! We had great fun there as children.

From Then & Now: The Home of Driver Foxhall Keene in Old Westbury

Gentlemen…
As I understand the presentment:  this view is purported to be somewhere to the East of the Broad Hollow Road bridge (Route 110) and Pinelawn/ColonialSprings Rd., with the responses, unfortunately going all over the place.  Therefore, I would suggest that the general location of these bridges be again defined.
Mr Schmitt (who I referred to previously) had written of a farmway bridge somewhere in the vicinity of Republic and Ruland Rds.  As it happens,Mr. Schmitt’s parents farm (I am 75 and he was about, what, 70) was behind ours, and although he said that his parents’ farm went to Ruland Rd, well, not quite, as that farm was owned by the Nohiels, Schmitts’ farm being between Noheils’ and the deLalio’s farms.  So, if you will kindly restate the general location (East or West of 110… or what have you), those of us of a certain age still living should be able to identify where the bridges are (the LILCO power lines shown (if in this area) being Norht of the L.I.M.P.).
Edith

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

Sam, previously I was looking in this area as well. Do you recall there being two bridges near Northcote Dr? The reason I ask is because the Motor pkwy Atlas shows only one, Little East Neck Road Bridge, a pkwy bridge that should be ruled out because the limp ‘hilled’ over the road. But, while checking this area in Historic Aerials, I spotted what appears to be a highway bridge immediately south of the Little East Neck Rd Bridge, where it curves slightly to the left with the limp passing under it, just like the distant bridge in the mystery photo. There are no records of this bridge but if you zoom in on the 1953 Historic Aerial in this area, it looks much like a hwy bridge with 45degree white abutments and all. Then more convincing, I spotted what looks like another hwy bridge about quarter mile south of there from a different aerial, a1938 Stony Brook Univ aerial photo from their website. The Atlas doesn’t indicate this bridge either but there are markings on the Atlas tagged with numbers (e.g. 18, 19-omitted) where those bridges appeared in the aerials. The latest entries I’ve found on the Atlas so far are dated to 1930, leaving 8 years of undocumented growth or change to the Limp. But also to keep in mind that the limp was financially struggling much of its life that growth most likely didn’t occur anywhere on the pkwy. They even bypassed the limp in the Alley Pond corridor at Bell Blvd over existing railroad abutments to save money. In the mystery photo, though of poor quality, peering through the distant bridge appears to be Deadman’s Curve #2, starting with a left bank, and then veering to the right with its white guard rail posts. Howard, is there any info on those numerical markings on the Atlas? Also, where in the world is CSI?

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

The driver is Joe Dawson. During the 1914 Indianapolis 500 Mile race he was involved in an accident, causing a broken collar bone. I don’t know why he uses the walking-stick, maybe he suffered from other minor injuries?
The year of the first photo (with the car before the mansion) I would estimate as 1910, but unfortunately the most important half of the car is missing, so for the make I must pass ...
P.S. I have to admit that I always find myself an intruder in someone’s private life with this kind of family photos!

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: Family Photos of Driver Joe Dawson

Further to my earlier comment “Confusing indeed…” (April 10th @ 8:53 AM)  Recalling an earlier comment (but unrelated to this) by Mr Schmidt (I believe) as to a farmway bridge in the area (not Maxess Rd), I will take a shot and say that these farmway bridges—East of Broad Hollow Rd bridge, are the Maxess Rd bridge and the farmway bridge previously cited by Mr. Schmidt.  In any case, I am certain that the answer will surprise us all.
And, as I have previously said, since I lived on a small farm just South of Ruland Rd on East side of Broad Hollow Rd, being the first property on the Huntington sdier nof the Town Line, any period fotos that members might have will certainly bring back fond memories for this septuagenarian… please.
Edith

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

Congratulations Jason and Tracy. You guys are going in style! Only the best.

From Jason and Tracy Owen Celebrate Their Wedding

Folks, please reread my earlier comments and either consider them or refute them.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

This is adorable, what a GREAT idea!!!!

From Jason and Tracy Owen Celebrate Their Wedding