Vanderbilt Cup Races

It appears that this is a similar omnibus as the steam omnibus produced by the New York Motor Vehicle Co, who showed this omnibus at the automobile show in Madison Square Garden at the end of 1900 (see Horseless Age Vol.7 No.6 p.37 and 38). It is unclear if this omnibus was already in actual service by then. Anyway, the company was apparently looking for more interest in the neighbourhood. Around the turn of the century the number of plans for motorized public transport grew often faster than reality could cope with. Many plans failed because of political, technical or whatever reason. So I’m interested if mr. Miller did succeed? In the Netherlands public transport with motorized vehicles in rural areas was successful only after WW1 (in which success the T Ford had a major role, by the way)!

From The "Automobile Stages" of Long Island

Wheeler’s Bridge was filled in the the 1960’s (I believe) to keep the roadway from collapsing. As a boy, I remember one day coming across another crossing near Creedmor and the entire roadway was gone. I almost fell in ‘cause I was going about 100 mph on my bicycle, as usual. They cut off that hunk and filled in the grade where it goes down to Winchester Blvd.! I do remember being able to look nearly straight down to Winchester at that end. It’s probably wooded slope now. Thank you all for the memories!

From The Lost Bridges of the Motor Parkway: The Wheeler Farmway Bridge in Queens

Oh, WOW!  Thanks folks!  Sam, III (in Massachusetts)

From The Wonderful "Clean-Up Deadman's Curve Day" in Bethpage

I was a little disappointed,I thought that there were going to be more antique cars,too many muscle cars and weren’t allowed to start up those drag racing cars,Pacer and two other plus your’s,they do it at other shows,it would have made it a better show,more exciting, It was good seeing you, See you next time

From Alco Black Beast Upcoming 2014 Events

Hi Bobby:
Great question! That section of the road is still called Guinea Woods Road. This link to the Westbury Quaker website provides the likely origin of the name:
http://www.westburyquakers.org/qt/archive/files/CSIntro.htm

From Then & Now: Guinea Woods Road in Old Westbury

Hi Howard!  Great job!  Great turn out!  We too are sorry we could not be a part of this historic clean up.  We did have our representative there to help out.  Passing the torch to the next generation.  Ann

From The Wonderful "Clean-Up Deadman's Curve Day" in Bethpage

Any thoughts regarding the origin of name of this stretch of Road…?  More people used to refer to it as Guinea Woods Road years ago…  Nowadays, folks just call that segment Glen Cove Road too…

From Then & Now: Guinea Woods Road in Old Westbury

Thanks to you all for doing this.  Looks like a really nice job.  I’m only sorry that I was unable to participate.

Ken

From The Wonderful "Clean-Up Deadman's Curve Day" in Bethpage

Thanks for that info about the fence Greg,I’ll check it out

From Then & Now: Guinea Woods Road in Old Westbury

Thanks, Howard! Great stuff.

From FIAT Freakout: The 13 FIATS of the Vanderbilt Cup Races

Ted-
While I agree it’s not the same fence, it’s not impossible for fence railings to last that long. Take a ride over to the Old Courthouse Rd bridge and you’ll find small sections of some of the original wood railings on the ground that are almost that old.

From Then & Now: Guinea Woods Road in Old Westbury

Not very likelly Howard. How could it last this long,unless it’s very strong wood,even that,it’s over 100 years,something would have to be done to it to preserve it,because I see that some parts are broken and missing in both pictures and it’s been repaired,doesn’t look like it was replaced. Need more research to find out. This could be a Friday Mystery,if no one comes up with an answer by the end of the day

From Then & Now: Guinea Woods Road in Old Westbury

Not likely to be the same fence (the old one looks like post and rail construction with the rails going into slots cut into the posts) but could be in the same location as the original.  Thanks for another interesting presentation.

Ken

From Then & Now: Guinea Woods Road in Old Westbury

I should have gone with my reasoning that it couldn’t have been the 1906 car since the picture showed it in front of a garage that obviously wasn’t collapsed.  Would have taken a year or two to have it rebuilt just in time for the 1908 picture of the Mercedes.  Guess I also couldn’t differentiate between the two drivers faces.  Almost!

From Mystery Foto: #20 Solved: Grave's Garage in Mineola- Headquarters for the 1908 #3 Mercedes

My mistake Howard you did mention about the 3 Mercedes,I was just looking for my name to see if I got the answers and didn’t read the whole thing

From Mystery Foto: #20 Solved: Grave's Garage in Mineola- Headquarters for the 1908 #3 Mercedes

Good morning Howard,  Taking a crack at it didn’t work,but then after I saw the garage on your home page on the bottom right side I knew what to do and I got it. You didn’t mention if it was the Mercedes and which one.

From Mystery Foto: #20 Solved: Grave's Garage in Mineola- Headquarters for the 1908 #3 Mercedes

I have it,it was in Mineola and now I say it’s a1906 Mercides

From Mystery Foto: #20 Solved: Grave's Garage in Mineola- Headquarters for the 1908 #3 Mercedes

Ha Howard you gave away part of the answer,it’s garage#11,now to find out where

From Mystery Foto: #20 Solved: Grave's Garage in Mineola- Headquarters for the 1908 #3 Mercedes

Howard Hope to see you at Morgan Park on Sunday,also Saturday for the clean-up,hopefully for breakfast,if not at the site. Enjoy the rest of Fathers Day

From Alco Black Beast Upcoming 2014 Events

Howard,
Thank you for your Father’s Day wishes.  Same to you and all the dads out there.
Roger

From A Father's Day Tribute: Willie K. and His Children