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The six Vanderbilt Cup Races held on Long Island from 1904 to 1910 were the greatest sporting events of their day, and the first international automobile road races held in the United States. The races had a far-reaching impact on the development of American automobiles and parkways. This site provides comprehensive information on the races, the Long Island Motor Parkway and current Long Island automotive events, car shows and news.
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Sam——you are a LIMP master but I looked at your pic but that is not the location of the LIMP! That is where I originally thought it was as well. It makes sense and the power lines are there and it’s blocked off but that’s not it! - it is a bit more north behind 555 Broadhollow.
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent Motor Parkway Adventure” XII: Final Destination Melville
That’s the famous Krug’s Hotel located on the northwest corner of Willis Avenue and Jericho Tpke in Mineola whose occupants had a front row seat for the 1904, 1905, and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Races. The photographer’s camera was pointed northeast with the cars facing east on Jericho Tpke. Based on the design of the license plates on the cars, the photo was taken in 1910, 1911, or 1912. If the photo was in color, we would know for sure based on the background color of the plate. Since 1910 had a dark blue color, I’ll guess that year. I’ll leave the identification of the cars to the real experts because I have no clue.
From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Krug's Hotel in Mineola Circa 1912 Revised 7/26/2016
-Identify the building. When was it on the course for the Vanderbilt Cup Races?
Krug’s hotel. Jericho Turnpike. On the 1904/5/6 cup race courses
-What is the orientation of the photo?
The cars in the photo on Jericho Tpke are heading in the East direction. The building at 136 Jericho Tpke (that still stands) can be seen along the right edge of the photo.
-What is the approximate year of the photo? Provide a rationale.
Judging by the 3rd floor addition to Krugs and the license plates, I’ll guess 1910.
-Identify one or more of the automobiles in the photo
Didn’t come up with much on this one but also didn’t have the time to look ‘em up…we’ll have to leave it to Ariejan Bos to make some positive vehicular identifications!
From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Krug's Hotel in Mineola Circa 1912 Revised 7/26/2016
Krug’s Hotel at Jericho and Willis Avenue northwest corner.
1910 looking east.
From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Krug's Hotel in Mineola Circa 1912 Revised 7/26/2016
Oops - I KNEW I had a pic of the RoW on the west side of 110! It’s on an image-rich but unrestored page 7 <http://sbiii.com/limpkwy7.html> on my site (I’ll restore it right now) and the pic is available at <http://sbiii.com/b-uattwn/meiii3/pix/limp5-19.jpg>. Watch out, though; there are several 555s on 110 - the one you mean is 555 Broad Hollow Road - 8½ miles south, the south side of the U. S. Postal facility. Sam, III
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent Motor Parkway Adventure” XII: Final Destination Melville
Way to go, Sam (and Dad)! Thanks again. Minor typo, though - “Deep Park Avenue in Dix Hills.” I’ve been deep in the park exploring the LIMP but not at Deer Park Road/Avenue. Sam, III
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent Motor Parkway Adventure” XII: Final Destination Melville
Brings back wonderful memories of a similar journey with my son Gram!
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent Motor Parkway Adventure” XII: Final Destination Melville
Thank you for sharing this wonderful adventure with us!
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent Motor Parkway Adventure” XII: Final Destination Melville
The historical marker refers to the bridge embankments being the last remains still standing in Suffolk, not that it was the last bridge in Suffolk. I guess it could have been worded better.
Great post about a great adventure. Thanks for sharing.
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent Motor Parkway Adventure” XII: Final Destination Melville
The Moon was in one of the garages behind the main building of the museum..along with a Biddle, the Model T Ford fire engine and several other cars when my son and I were visiting the museum….approximately 1969-70… The Moon was always grey….never red. This day was somewhat notable…as HAC discovered someone had stolen the radiator cap from the Moon. We often visited the museum, and on one occasion, Mr. Clark drove us in the Fiat “Jolly” to John Duck’s Restaurant for lunch which he generously paid for….I am left with a very favorable memory of this man…I had several business dealings with him and he was a tremendous help to me in my research of Mr. Finley Robertson Porter…very generously providing me with photos and a lot of information….truly one of this hobby’s early pioneers…
From The 1912 Moon Raceabout Owned by Henry Austin Clark Jr is heading to Pebble Beach (Updated: 7/19/16)
The sign says Krug’s Corner, so it is Krug’s Hotel, on the corner of Willis Ave and Jericho Turnpike. Part of the 1905 and 1906 course. I have to admit. From this angle, looking NE, I have not seen this building before. It is a beautiful picture, and a great find. I do not have a basis to even guess the year.
From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Krug's Hotel in Mineola Circa 1912 Revised 7/26/2016
Just wanted to take a quick look at the mystery,before I go to bed,from what I see real quick,the pictures look like it’s early 1900,those are pretty old cars,early 20s maybe even older than that. That’s about all you’ll get from me on this. Good nite
From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Krug's Hotel in Mineola Circa 1912 Revised 7/26/2016
I’ve never seen any information or pictures on any site related to this location behind 555 Broadhollow. This is a very good location and it’s very easily accessed too - just park behind the building and walk back. I was surprised to see so much road and posts.
Our first trip on the LIMP was really awesome. Death bed moments….things you remember till the end.
Frank you are probably very close in your ratio estimate. But the joy comes in getting that 65 percent number higher. Maybe next year we’ll get to 68 - find new location like this one behind 110. Every inch counts!
We did our second annual LIMP day back in April and there are some pretty good finds to come. Thank you Howard for all you do on this site to keep the fire burning!
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent Motor Parkway Adventure” XII: Final Destination Melville
Incredible 1-day, 38mi journey through some of Nassau/Suffolk’s roughest terrain, then ending at the monumental bridge to top it off. Unforgettable, everlasting memories to last for some time. It seems most of the path can be done by MTB, and I’m guessing nearby roadways had to be used for some stretches to connect it all. I’m estimating a 65 ROW/35 Alternate ratio, but please let us know. Nice job guys!
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent Motor Parkway Adventure” XII: Final Destination Melville
LOL, Dave. You’ll always come across old insulators, etc on the ROWS. I always liked that area. The wood pole transmission line heading east from the R/O the substation follows the LIMP towards and past Maxess Rd until the parkway makes the curve south towards Ruland Rd.
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent Motor Parkway Adventure” XII: Final Destination Melville
Hay,I’ve got a few minutes before I have to go out. What a show this must have been,beautiful cars,very hard for the judges,all top grade cars,they certainly did need 3 expert judges for this one. Well anyhow congrats on the win. I say again “you will always win something”,just being their,judges have to award you with something,I would say,would’nt you? Miss you guys and all the cars that you have. The cars here are a little different,the styles,setup and designs. Got to go now,catch ya another time.
From 1937 Chrysler's Chrysler Honored at the 2016 Keeneland Concours d'Elegance
Howard,
I think the date is FEBRUARY 24th, not August - look at the foliage - more Winter like - no leaves, not Summertime. At the time (the 1950’s & 60’s) NCDPW documented all sort of projects - before & after - throughout the County with their own photographers - they did B&W photography, color slides & even motion picture film. Fortunately some, but not all, of this documentation was turned over to the Nassau County Division of Museum Services over 40 years ago (they were already there when I started with the Museum) for preservation. It’s great that Al is systematically going through them, something I never had the time to do.
From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1955 View of the Old Westbury Road Motor Parkway Bridge
All did well on this one. See new people. As I said,I don’t have much time for this.I’m lucky I have time to check this out now and then,there’s so much to do here,there’s not enough time in the day to do it. I’ll try to keep in touch
From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1955 View of the Old Westbury Road Motor Parkway Bridge
The 1912 MOON was on the Glidden Tour in 1950, along with the 1912 Model T Ford that has been in my garage since 1983. My T was once owned by Elmer Bemis. I can finally check off Pebble Beach from my “Bucket List” this year and look forward to finally seeing the MOON. There are photos of it in the January 1951 Issue of the Bulb Horn, along with full coverage of the 1950 Glidden.
From The 1912 Moon Raceabout Owned by Henry Austin Clark Jr is heading to Pebble Beach (Updated: 7/19/16)
guesses - Westbury Avenue Pkwy. Bridge - Mineola/Carle Place or the Mineola LIRR Bridge
From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1955 View of the Old Westbury Road Motor Parkway Bridge
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