Vanderbilt Cup Races

I am all but certain that the man in this photo is Alonzo “A.C.” Webb. There is a widely held belief the car raced only once - by Fisher in a minor support race at the Indiana State Fairgrounds in November 1905. This is not true. Nearly lost to history is the reality that Webb drove the car in competition - and won - a year later at the same track. He also broke a track record previously held by Barney Oldfield. Here is a link to a post on my Web site as well as another copy of the same photo. It was published in the Indianapolis Star on October 18, 1906. http://www.firstsuperspeedway.com/photo-gallery/webb-fishers-premier

From The Premier Vanderbilt Cup Racer that Never Raced

Husband and wife?  Right now, no clue. 
Event?  I will guess a marriage
Date?  1903
Bonus?  1903 Curved Dash Olds

Hopefully I trip over something in time, but it’s not looking good.

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: Willie K and Birdie Vanderbilt at the 1899 Newport Parade in a Locomobile

I’ve seen this picture before,but don’t remember what the event was for. The car looks like a horseless carriage. I thought I’d do this now,while I’ve got time.I don’t know what’s going on this weekend yet

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: Willie K and Birdie Vanderbilt at the 1899 Newport Parade in a Locomobile

From Ariejan Bos:

Today’s mystery made me wander around a little at first and I was not very hopeful until a lucky shot guided me into the right direction. Above the articles from The Automobile Magazine (October 1899) and from The Horseless Age (Sept. 20 1899).

The mystery photo shows William K. Vanderbilt, Jr., and his wife Mrs. Vanderbilt (Virginia Graham Fair) during the floral parade on September 8, 1899 in Newport, Rhode Island. He is driving a Locomobile steamer. Prizes were awarded for speed, decoration and skillful driving. It will not be surprising that Vanderbilt won the award for speed! It may seem incredible now that The Automobile Magazine spent 13 pages on a description of this event, however it gives a good insight in the way the automobile landed in high society circles and what they used it for in the very beginning!

Regards,
Ariejan

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: Willie K and Birdie Vanderbilt at the 1899 Newport Parade in a Locomobile

Michael,  so for I have found Krug’s Hotel owned by Frank Krug through 1925.  Still looking to see if he sold it to someone else or it totally closed down upon
According to The Brooklyn Daily Eagle of Sept. 1, 1925
Mineola, LI - “Krug’s hotel on the Jericho Turnpike, near here, famous in the days of the Vanderbilt Cup rces in 1904, 1905 and 1908, closed last night. Its closing was marked by a dinner and “old-timers night,” given to more than a score of old habitues, by Frank (“Father”) Krug, for thirty years proprietor of the place.  Mr. Krug has decided to retire from business and has sold the old hotel. 
In the old days the establishment was known as the East Williston Hotel.”

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Krug's Hotel in Mineola Circa 1912 Revised 7/26/2016

Thank You for bringing your car to MOTN Show I was park 2 cars away DDF 102 the white Oxford 2014 coupe   Vince and Judy   Sat with your team at the Pierce Arrow had a Great Time
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From Howard Kroplick

Vince and Judy, great to meet you too!

From 1963 Mustang III Concept Show Car to be Featured at a 2016 Mustang Club of America National Show

Went To the Pierce Arrow and sat with the Prototype People had a great time Love John’s presentation   Vince

From Author and Ford Insider John Clor Salutes the 1963 Mustang III Concept Show Car in Niagara

Wow Howard,what an exciting time you had,it must have been the most mustangs you have ever seen,it’s the first time I have ever seen a 4 door mustang. Even though you didn’t win anything,you met some important people and they saw your car and recognized it,by talking about it in the presentation. You always get something out of the shows you go to.

From Author and Ford Insider John Clor Salutes the 1963 Mustang III Concept Show Car in Niagara

With regard to dating the photo, (first time I’m seeing it”\)  my guess it was taken in very late 1910, the first year New York State issued license plates. That year the plates had a dark blue background with white numbers and letters riveted on, not embossed or painted. That would explain why they are easy to read. I say late that year because there are no leaves on the trees and the men are dressed for cold weather. The fact that at least two of the autos have the steering wheel on the right side leads me to think its 1910. Al Velocci

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Krug's Hotel in Mineola Circa 1912 Revised 7/26/2016

Does anybody know what year Krug’s stood until ? And what was the reason it closed ?
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From Howard Kroplick

I recall an old Newsday article that showed a photo of the building in 1960s and indicated its use as a fruit store.

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Krug's Hotel in Mineola Circa 1912 Revised 7/26/2016

I certainly did take a quick look,didn’t I?,didn’t even notice the sign,until now,oh well

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Krug's Hotel in Mineola Circa 1912 Revised 7/26/2016

Taken in 1912   the plates are NY 1912 the only year the year is not on the plate   just a NY on right side with   white numbers on a vermilion back ground.  Only year NY used a porcelain plate.  Checked plate on my car to make sure.  Cars look a year or so older but rear shots very hard to identify.

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Krug's Hotel in Mineola Circa 1912 Revised 7/26/2016

Thank you, Frank. You led me in the right direction.

From The 1938 U.S. Department of Agriculture Aerial Suvey of Nassau County #2: Garden City to East Meadow

Another great show and another win for you,congrats

From Hemmings Blog: 1934 Bugatti Type 57 takes Best of Show at Keeneland Concours d’Elegance

Krugs was visible during the 1904 - ‘06 Vanderbilt Cup Races, but mystery photo was definitely not taken during those years

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Krug's Hotel in Mineola Circa 1912 Revised 7/26/2016

Famous Krug’s Corner! But an unfamiliar, later 1920s streamline design. We’re looking NE with cars parked on Jericho Tpke. The right corner is Willis Av. The parked cars could give a closer photo date but all seem older than 1920s (the correct answer will be interesting). The building on top right still stands today (136 Jericho Tpke), complete with window shutters here! This building today was likely moved several feet east on Jericho to make room for eventual expansion of Willis Av, as once noted by Al Velocci. For me it was 136 Jericho that first gave this mystery away. Howard, sending multiple views of this well photographed corner.

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Krug's Hotel in Mineola Circa 1912 Revised 7/26/2016

Brian- Try going in with this link http://alex.sinc.stonybrook.edu/1938ind.html
I tried again and seems fine on this end.

From The 1938 U.S. Department of Agriculture Aerial Suvey of Nassau County #2: Garden City to East Meadow

That appears to be the Krug’s Corner Hotel, looking north and east.  Since it has the mansard roof installed it’s definitely after the 1910 Vanderbilt race.  I will guess the early 20’s as I see the highest NY plate is in the 30,000 range.  Other photos from the 20’s seem to show awnings on the upper windows which may have eventually been necessary for comfort of the guests.  There also appears to be a massive amount of electric lines on the one pole, which shows progress.  So perhaps 1923. 

As for the cars…...I have enough trouble figuring them out looking at the front of them so I will leave that to others.

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Krug's Hotel in Mineola Circa 1912 Revised 7/26/2016

Identify the building. When was it on the course for the Vanderbilt Cup Races?
Krug Corner Hotel; 1904, 1905, 1906
What is the orientation of the photo?  Looking east along Jericho Turnpike
What is the approximate year of the photo? Provide a rationale. 1910-1913 License plate format (12345, no dashes) and white on dark background might be the clue. 
Identify one or more of the automobiles in the photo; will leave that to the experts

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: Krug's Hotel in Mineola Circa 1912 Revised 7/26/2016

Initially, I was able to search freely on the Stony Brook website. Unless I’m missing something, whatever aerial maps I want to view are not coming up. Maybe Stony Brook is restricting access because of all our searching? I did print out a 1938 aerial of my childhood home and surrounding area in Brentwood. When I lived there it was a 1/2 acre. It looked to be a full acre in 1938, and farmlike. I hope the map coordinates I emailed covering the LIMP in Suffolk County circa 1938 will be helpful to you, Howard.

From The 1938 U.S. Department of Agriculture Aerial Suvey of Nassau County #2: Garden City to East Meadow