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The six Vanderbilt Cup Races held on Long Island from 1904 to 1910 were the greatest sporting events of their day, and the first international automobile road races held in the United States. The races had a far-reaching impact on the development of American automobiles and parkways. This site provides comprehensive information on the races, the Long Island Motor Parkway and current Long Island automotive events, car shows and news.
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Howard: Glad you appreciate the placque. Our club enjoyed your presentation. Artie.
From Highlights from the Town of North Hempstead 6th Annual FunDay Monday Antique Car Show
Bravo, Howard!
“Ellison”.
Sam, III
From Westbury Times: Grandstand Site Raced Into History
I am glad to see that another sacred place is being recognized. I am trying to get more people to join the Preservation Society. My brother just helped me find my sister through Facebook and if she ever has any free time I will try to get her, her husband and their two kids into it. I haven’t heard from her in nearly seventeen years but she was looking for me too.
From Westbury Times: Grandstand Site Raced Into History
Nice sleuthing. You guys did this on foot? That’s quite a distance. Interesting clean cut mark. Coincidental? Much head scratchin’ goin’ on here. I too was thinking a surveyor’s monument mark for equipment positioning. When working with surveyors it was typical to encounter small monuments engraved in concrete sidewalks, or a small metallic plaque with a center point, embedded into concrete to last many years. This would be a first for me where a triangle was used, usually an “X” or “+”. Unusual but still possible.
Art, were coordinates recorded where this was located? I’d like to take a look when I get a chance.
Dave, haven’t been able to think of a better theory than Rt 135 construction with uprooted LIMP posts, used by the homeowner as a retainer wall on the incline. Caroline posts seemed randomly positioned where some were even installed upside down. But I’m all ears for the solution. I love a good mystery
From Kleiner's Tour of the Long Island Motor Parkway and a Mystery Triangle
What direction is it pointing
From Kleiner's Tour of the Long Island Motor Parkway and a Mystery Triangle
Who is the driver?
Louis Chevrolet
Which Vanderbilt Cup Races did he particpate in?
1905, 1908, 1909, & 1910
Bonus: Although there was no caption with the original photo, what is your best guess for the location and year? Provide a rationale.
Unsure. Palm tree in the background and might able to match a southern race, but just a guess from what his age looks like-1915
From Mystery Foto #36 Solved: Louis Chevrolet at the 1906 Ormond-Daytona Races
Hi Art. I don’t know if it matters, but what direction is the triangle “pointing” towards. North, west etc. I think this area is going to be designated as a section of the LIMP trail? Such a fine cut, maybe done by a surveyor?
From Kleiner's Tour of the Long Island Motor Parkway and a Mystery Triangle
Women go shopping, men explore! Great day Art.
ART—-What’s funny is you had to give them a pre-adventure map presentation? LOL. Didn’t the guys know where you were taking them?
No idea about that triangle. Maybe overthinking. Maybe something just chipped the pavement in a unique way? I’m still wondering about the Caroline Street posts!
From Kleiner's Tour of the Long Island Motor Parkway and a Mystery Triangle
I have to believe that is one Louis Chevrolet, racer in 4 Vanderbilt Cup races in ‘05, ‘08, ‘09 and ‘10.
I believe the photo to be 1917. Noting, what appear to be, palm trees in the background it would hint to Florida or southern California. I see his only visit to either place in the AAA zone of races was at Ascot in 1917 where he finished first and third in a Frontenac in two separate races on the same November day, possibly Thanksgiving Day.
All is based on the assumption that is a palm tree…....
From Mystery Foto #36 Solved: Louis Chevrolet at the 1906 Ormond-Daytona Races
What an experience is right,you’ll never know what you’ll find,will you?you might be right about that triangle,nice find,have to do a little research on that.
From Kleiner's Tour of the Long Island Motor Parkway and a Mystery Triangle
Oopsies - scrambled captions - nobody has his hand on the car in the third image; Williams does in the fourth. HA - I had completely forgotten about the Privateer. Thanks, Howard. Sam, III
From Mystery Friday #35 Solved: Buckminster Fuller's Dymaxion #1 on a 1933 Test Run at Roosevelt Field
Nice job Howard. I think deep inside everyone is at least a little compelled to preserve some sort of history because deep inside we all know once it’s gone, it’s gone FOREVER, leaving just photography and videography if lucky. Not an easy feat for the average Joe and Joanne but more than happy to see your efforts actually come to life. Much more of same is needed. High five to you and your accomplishments. Congratulatons.
From Newsday:On the trail of LI's lost history A grand statue,vintage cars-he's saving them from oblivion
Howard, you deserve all the recognition for your fine historical work!
From Newsday:On the trail of LI's lost history A grand statue,vintage cars-he's saving them from oblivion
1..Mackay’s “Harbor Hill”
1906 Cup race
2. Glen Cove Rd. L. to .r. Across bottom; 25A l. to r. across top
3. Helena Rubenstein Bldg. circa. 1958, now multi use offices
4. Robert Lovett
5. Hal David
From Vanderbilt Cup Racers on Glen Cove Road & Old Westbury Road & Special Exhibit "Images of East Hills"
As I mentioned in a different venue, if ever a car cried out for 1937 Lincoln built-into-the-fender headlights, this Chrysler would be the one! The dowdy, high-mounted, bullet headlights are the one feature that takes away from the whole streamlined package. Someone with PhotoShop experience, using the image of the ‘37 custom-bodied Lincoln portrayed recently in Hemmings, could easily modify a photograph to show us what it would have looked like. PhotoShopper, if you’re out there, please do it and ask Hemmings to run the result on line!
From Chrysler's Chrysler Then & Now: Pre-& Post-Restoration
From Aldo Zana:
About the mystery car it’s the Dymaxion , the 1933 concept car by Richard Buckminster Fuller (1895-1983) built for the Chicago World Fair 1933.It was totally unstable and underpowered, but the shape was a real revolution.
From Mystery Friday #35 Solved: Buckminster Fuller's Dymaxion #1 on a 1933 Test Run at Roosevelt Field
From Gary Hammond:
Here’s Hammond’s Historical Happenings for Mystery Photo # 35:
Automobile: Buckminster Fuller’s Dymaxion Car #1 – 3 were built (only one still survives); at Roosevelt Field (note old Curtiss Field hangers in background), 1933; Buckminster Fuller on right pointing; possibly the man he was talking to was pilot Frank T. Coffyn ((1878-1960) who drove the car on August 10, 1933 (see photo); license plate: red with white lettering “FV 453 CONN. 1933”.
The Dymaxion Corporation factory was located at the defunct Locomobile dynamometer building, Tongue Pointe, Bridgeport, CT. Building markings: “4D / DYMAXION” (see photo)
This photo is probably from August 10, 1933 when the car was given test runs on the runways at Roosevelt Field, supposedly reaching more than 90 mph. (see Brooklyn Daily Eagle, August 11, 1933, p. 6) The car again visited the Field when it was exhibited at the National Charity Air Pageant, held at Roosevelt Field, Saturday & Sunday, October 7-8, 1933. (see copy of ticket)
Aircraft: The P-3B Privateer amphibian, built by Amphibions, Inc. in 1933, with a 210 h.p. seven-cylinder Continental R-670 pusher engine, which was pylon-mounted above cockpit. Registration # NC13252. Notice the Amphibions logo on the a/c. (see photo)
The company was originally called Ireland Aircraft Inc., and located at Curtiss Field, Garden City NY. In 1931 it was reorganized as Amphibions Inc., at Roosevelt Field, Garden City, NY.
Hammond’s Bonus question: Did you know that an important Fuller design resides in Nassau County? In 1936 Fuller designed a Dymaxion Bathroom for his friend Christopher Morley, for his writing studio “The Knothole”, in Roslyn, where it still resides!
From Mystery Friday #35 Solved: Buckminster Fuller's Dymaxion #1 on a 1933 Test Run at Roosevelt Field
Omg Howard,my Uncle worked in Helena Rubiinstein when I was a teenager and early 20s,I think he was the president.I went their many times to watch them make cosmetics and always brought samples home for my Mom,what memories this brings back.
From Vanderbilt Cup Racers on Glen Cove Road & Old Westbury Road & Special Exhibit "Images of East Hills"
Possibly Buckminster Fuller’s Dymaxion #1 three-wheeler in Bridgeport, CT, July 12, 1933. Flyer “Al” Williams standing in front of vehicle with lighter slacks would eventually purchase the vehicle. An amphibian plane but dunno what it is.
http://www.vintag.es/2016/08/buckminster-fuller-and-dymaxion-car.html
From Mystery Friday #35 Solved: Buckminster Fuller's Dymaxion #1 on a 1933 Test Run at Roosevelt Field
The ” car ” is a Dymaxion probably around 1934,35 the pusher plane I’m guessing was made by Grumman but don’t know what they called it.
From Mystery Friday #35 Solved: Buckminster Fuller's Dymaxion #1 on a 1933 Test Run at Roosevelt Field
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