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Identify the estate, its owner and its location.
Link the estate’s owner to the Vanderbilt Cup Races and the Long Island Motor Parkway.
-It’s Willie K’s Eagle’s Nest! I think that’s nuff’ said!
What two sports were played at the estate?
-I’m guessing tennis and the golf tee off the roof of the Hall Of Fishes!
Which institution currently occupies the estate?
-Suffolk County Vanderbilt Museum and Planitarium
Which TBS series was recently filmed at the site?
-An independent film-production company used the mansion and estate grounds recently for scenes in its mystery-romance Nick and Nicky, based on the screwball comedies of the 1930’s
What is the approximate date of the aerial? Provide a rationale.
-1938 Judging by all the additions up to the last for Vanderbilt’s son in ‘33.
From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: An Aerial View of William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Eagle's Nest Estate
The area behind the church was the exciting find in this segment. I’ve never seen any reference to this location on any blogs. There’s quite a bit of pavement pieces/chunks and finding that little post knob was pretty cool.
There are lots of posts starting at Round Swamp Road and heading east, on both sides.
Love the old pics you posted here Howard. Cool stuff. And Franks detailed overlay of the Rounds Swamp Road spot is fantastic.
From Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" III: Bethpage State Park to Round Swamp Road, Bethpage
Great area photos indeed Sam and Dave. You guys have covered it well once again. And great supporting evidence Howard. This is as clear as it gets. Sam, Dave - It looks like rough terrain ahead, hope all went well. Anticipating the next move!
From Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" III: Bethpage State Park to Round Swamp Road, Bethpage
You guys took great photos of this segment ( Dave, I like how you utilized Sammy as a LIMP model. I’d say he had a growth spurt, too. ) The rear parking lot of the church is deep. Not surprised there’s remnants back there.
From Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" III: Bethpage State Park to Round Swamp Road, Bethpage
I was reading Brian’s comment on May 4th, about the glass on the beach at the Trianon property, it brought back old memories, that has been the problem for many years, I think everyone who frequented that beach stepped on a piece of broken bottle at least once, I, myself three times. The reason for the glass was late night beer parties, and the reason for that was the beach was one of the few that you had access to by vehicle and no one would know you were there so it was a lover’s lane and a place to have a party with no restrictions, no lights, overhanging trees, moonlight and seclusion, what else can you ask for? All you had to know was the way in. No, I was not of that age bracket, A lot of the glass was under about two feet of water, that’s where most people received the cuts.
From Femenias' Findings: Remnants of the Petit Trianon's Walkways in Lake Ronkonkoma
Sam III….I havn’t viewed your railroad website for some time now. Throughout my travels near LIRR ROW’s I have witnessed concrete posts that are similar to the LIMP posts. It’s obvious that the posts along the tracks were acting as old type fencing or boundary markers, likely before electrification. They have good size holes that would accommodate a rigid wire, etc. Exciting stuff, right. LOL
From The Concrete Fence-Posts of the Long Island Motor Parkway
Thanks again Howard. What about that picture I sent you of that Diesel engine Packard? I can resend it.
From Car Show Highlights: Merchant Marine Car Show and Historic Motor Parkway Memories Antique Car Show
I’ll pass on the post count offer Howard! Lol. You’re the retired one! You go do it!!
My guess is 750 is a bit high. I would wager we are in the 400-500 range.
I think in Nassau Garden City has the most remaining posts.
We do love finding the unknown posts. We’ve found a few I’m sure nobody knows about! There also are many of them lying in the weeds in various locations.
From The Concrete Fence-Posts of the Long Island Motor Parkway
Oh,tell John he looks great and good to see him.
From Car Show Highlights: Merchant Marine Car Show and Historic Motor Parkway Memories Antique Car Show
Nice pics,but what is the year and make of the last 2 pics on the USMMA show? Thanks in advance.
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Howard Kroplick
Ted, new information added above.
From Car Show Highlights: Merchant Marine Car Show and Historic Motor Parkway Memories Antique Car Show
Great post info Sam III. Thanks for the links.
From The Concrete Fence-Posts of the Long Island Motor Parkway
Central Avenue reminds me that I once saw LIMP posts with two or three holes, perpendicular to the RoW, which held bolts and boards instead of twist wire. I forget where they were and can’t find my pix - sorry. The green ones in Queens with bolts through single holes are similar. This reminds me of the times I went scurrying to see newly-discovered LIMP posts reported found at the east side of the Williston or Albertson LIRR station and again at the north side of the circle at the north end of Bethpage State Parkway - NO WAY were they LIMP posts!. I also remember once being strong enough to lift one end of a 6’ long 3-hole post I rescued from being trashed at Half Hollow Hills and hoisting it into my trunk by myself (whew! - a LI friend now has it for safe-keeping). Sam, III
From Mystery Foto #18 Solved: A Garden City Park Home With "Motor Parkway-Like" Concrete Fence-Posts
Dave - concrete slab likely unrelated because of its distance to the walk path (about 115 ft.). There was also a time when the lake had many pavilions on the sand, eventually left unattended and destroyed. Hard to tell of the slab’s origin without more information.
http://www.lakerhs.org/our town.htm
From Femenias' Findings: Remnants of the Petit Trianon's Walkways in Lake Ronkonkoma
Thanks Al for sharing the LIMP post house story; randomly found during a short-cut maneuver no less. Fantastic!! I’ll be visiting very soon
From Mystery Foto #18 Solved: A Garden City Park Home With "Motor Parkway-Like" Concrete Fence-Posts
Those posts off Clinton across from the main headquarters are my favorite also
From The Concrete Fence-Posts of the Long Island Motor Parkway
Seems that the real mystery here is not the posts, but her grandfather, Oliver Quoile, who may very well be an integral part of the Old Courthouse Road Bridge to this day.
From Mystery Foto #18 Solved: A Garden City Park Home With "Motor Parkway-Like" Concrete Fence-Posts
what a shame that the tucker never made it beyond 1948. i must see the movie that was made a few years ago.
From Tucker Memorabilia: Luggage to License Plates Updated: 12/26/2019
i lived in that area since 1953 and never knew about it. great story;.i took a visual tour on bing maps and notice the property has extended beyond the fence but the posts remain. it probably was the area for the barn accessway. the woman is probably my age (60 and up) and her mother was the girl on the horse.wow i now live in arizona but if i go back for a visit i would love to ride by the place before it eventually gets sold and torn down and subdivided which is happening all throughout the area. keep a eye out for for sale signs and try to raise money to buy the fenceposts which i would gladly contribute to.
From Mystery Foto #18 Solved: A Garden City Park Home With "Motor Parkway-Like" Concrete Fence-Posts
I knew a few could locate this house, Congratulations! Now knowing the location, I viewed the house on the “nassaucounty.gov” website, Land Record Viewer. When you zoom in closer to a location, an aerial will display; and you can see rooftops and property lines. I clicked onto this house, and a frontal view is displayed. The house hasn’t changed much ( White fence w/concrete posts looks great. The “overhang” between the fencing/walkway towards the front door isn’t there in the photo. I don’t know how current the info on the website is. A 2012 streetview displays the house exactly how it looks here.)
From Mystery Foto #18 Solved: A Garden City Park Home With "Motor Parkway-Like" Concrete Fence-Posts
Rich Stark:
The house in mystery photo #18 is located at Central Ave. and Seventh Street, Garden City Park. The wooden fence around the house is attached to what appears to be concrete motor parkway fence posts. The house was built in 1924 which is two years before the order for 5,000 posts were placed with Wallace M. Hendrick for the parkway extension. I’m guessing he had some connection to this house.
Rich Stark,
Rocky Point
From Mystery Foto #18 Solved: A Garden City Park Home With "Motor Parkway-Like" Concrete Fence-Posts
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