Vanderbilt Cup Races

Hmmm   Well the car looks to be a Model “A” Ford ?...“MY” older brother , 10 years my senior, ) Used to buy them, for about 5 bucks each….And he often ( after getting a few of them) made one good one!    I often got to sit in the rumble seat, And to this day…....GOOD OLE MODEL “A” s ...Have fond memories for me! Ain,t nothing like a Rumble seat !  Of course @ 77 years of age I might have a tough time getting in and out of one, today!

From Mystery Foto #36 Unveiled: Christopher Morley's Cat Teaches How to Draw A Map of Long Island in 1927

Congratulations.On the Roslyn landmark Society

From My Top Ten Non-Tuckers at the 2018 Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance

Howard, the photo of a 1929 Duesenberg J Murphy Town Limousine, Lehrman Collection, is wrong, it’s is a 1935 Duesenberg JN Bohman & Schwartz Convertible Coupe (2585 J-560).

From My Top Ten Non-Tuckers at the 2018 Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance

Love the Weekly Newsletter.

“Frank Femenias: Terrific job covering the Motor Parkway, the fun never seizes!”

Perhaps the writer meant “... never ceases!” I bet the fun of researching the Motor Parkway and its era does seize the writer! Y’all are superb detectives.

Some of us old-school teachers (or old school-teachers, and I am both) can’t resist the fun of usage checks. LOL

From Update #1: John E. Roosevelt Family Photo Album: The Motor Parkway Near Ronkonkoma, Circa 1911

Frank,

I believe you are correct about Chestnut Street in East Garden City and the unknown road running through the Base. 

From left to right, West to East, it’s easy to see how it once crossed Oak Street (Oak Street was originally Avenue E on Camp Mills.  It would seem likely someone with a proclivity for trees renamed the local streets after Camp Mills was decommissioned following WW1). 

Continuing Eastward, Chestnut (or whatever it was known as at the time) continued across West Road on what became Mitchel Field.  From there, it went directly through the site where the Hospital would be built on (what else), Hospital Road (the same building that still houses NCC’s 90.3 WHPC-FM in the basement that used to be the morgue where I got my start in 1976!). 

Following its Eastward trajectory, the road then bisected the expanse that would be turned into the Parade Grounds / Quadrangle which was at the time was still covered with wooden buildings left over from the WW1 Camp Mills era.

From there it split the very property where I would later grow up in the Commanding Officer’s Quarters, then dead-ended a few yards later at East Road along the border with the Polo Grounds property. 

Although I have found vintage street maps of Mitchel Field while it was an active Base, I have as of yet not found one for Camp Mills.  Does anyone know of a source that might contain the original name of Chestnut and all the other streets in East Garden City that once were part of Camp Mills?

From A Chambers Profile: The Meadow Brook Polo Fields

Main aerial photo is over Garden City, facing NorthEast. 

In photo C, the hangers along Old Country Road can be seen in the top right corner.

Clinton Road runs perpendicular to it.  The LIMP runs parallel to Clinton Road until it veers 90 degrees to the East through what will become Roosevelt Field.

Photo D shows more detail of the runways at Roosevelt Field.  The train can be seen on the lower left corner of the shot as well as in Photo E.

From Mystery Foto #37 Solved: Cherry Valley Club, Garden City Hotel & Roosevelt Field in 1936

I usually applaud your taste, Howard, but that 1937 Cadillac V16 Series 90 Hartman Cabriolet has got to be one of the most awkward abortions ever put on wheels!  Also, I’d bet that Mercedes “SS” 710 may actually have started out as a VERY late 680 S-modell; the hood and radiator tank had to be raised about an inch in production to accommodate the higher 7.1 litre SS engine.  Sam, III

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I’m pretty sure that the photographer is looking northeast over Garden City, and that the large building is the original Garden City Hotel that eventually burned down and was rebuilt to the modern facility that it is today.
I think that I can make out the southbound Motor Parkway and its curve to the east, which was very near what is Roosevelt Field and its parking lot somewhat north of Stewart Avenue today.
I’m guessing that the row of structures running from the west to the east, which look like airplane hangers, were part of an air field; which one, I don’t know, given that the real Roosevelt Field was to the east.

From Mystery Foto #37 Solved: Cherry Valley Club, Garden City Hotel & Roosevelt Field in 1936

We are over Garden City looking northeast. While difficult to see, the LIMP runs north-south from the upper left to the right center of the photo. LIMP structures that while hidden from view, should be in the photo are: Clinton Road bridge; Garden City Lodge; General Managers office; Mayan ruins; Mineola Lodge (kiosk) and Old Country Road underpass. Additional roads are: Cherry Valley Ave.; South Ave.; Stewart Ave.; Cathedral Ave.; Westminster Ave.; and Franklin Ave. Also visible is the Garden City Hotel, headquarters for the Vanderbilt Race Commission from 1904 to 1910. The Cherry Valley Country Club is in the foreground with the Garden City Golf Club in the distance. The train is at the Garden City station just below (south) of the hotel. Since there appears to be no activity or any cars at Adelphi College, the date could be 1929 just before the first classes were held there.

From Mystery Foto #37 Solved: Cherry Valley Club, Garden City Hotel & Roosevelt Field in 1936

Another great shot of Garden CIty!  The photographer is over Garden City South looking northeast across GC and Mineola.

- The Motor Parkway is in the very top right of the picture, best seen by close-up C in the top right of the image.  The road is coming from the north, crosses over Jericho Tpke, Old Country and bends over to Clinton Rd where you just make out the GC toll (or not). 
- Major roads include Stewart Ave and South Ave, Rockaway Ave and 1st Street.  Others include Franklin Ave, Washington and Old Country in the distance. 
- The course in the foreground is the Cherry Valley club and the Garden City Club off in the distance.
- You can just make out the train thru the trees pulling into the Graden City Station on the Hempstead line.
- I would put the date of this aerial around 1937 since the Mott section is in its very early infancy.

From Mystery Foto #37 Solved: Cherry Valley Club, Garden City Hotel & Roosevelt Field in 1936

Identify the location and orientation of the photographer
-Looking North East Over Garden City. Roosevelt Field just visible in the very upper right hand corner.

Where is the Motor Parkway?
-Along the top and top right of the photo. Roughly around Searingtown Rd all the way to just after the Managers’ office off of Clinton.

Which Motor Parkway structures are hidden in this aerial?
-Tough to see any of the bridges, Mgrs house, or toll lodges, but Graves garage and Krug’s are also within the photo’s frame.

Identify the major roads
-Old Country Rd, Clinton, Stewart Ave, Franklin Ave, etc

Link a building in this aerial to the Vanderbilt Cup Races
-Garden City Hotel, The Garden City Hotel was the headquarters for the Vanderbilt Cup Races held on Long Island from 1904 to 1910. Graves garage is in there too, but not able to

Identify the golf course
-Cherry Valley Club

Where is there a train in the aerial?
-Very right side edge of photo ‘C’

What is the date of the aerial? Provide a rationale.
Purely a guess, but I’d say around 1930

From Mystery Foto #37 Solved: Cherry Valley Club, Garden City Hotel & Roosevelt Field in 1936

Cherry valley country club garden city

From Mystery Foto #37 Solved: Cherry Valley Club, Garden City Hotel & Roosevelt Field in 1936

So glad to read about this very interesting piece of my family history! I am the great granddaughter of John and Katherine Dennelley through their daughter, my paternal grandmother, Grace Cecile Dennelley. Grace was one of many sisters (13 children) in the Dennelley family. So glad to read of another distant relative here and to know that my grandmother had a sister named Jane.

From Then & Now: Maple Cottage- The Locomobile Headquarters for the 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Races

Update #1: Frank Femenias believes the photographer was looking south/southwest.

From Update #1: John E. Roosevelt Family Photo Album: The Motor Parkway Near Ronkonkoma, Circa 1911

Great photo! This wicked curve hasn’t changed since this image was taken. Took me by surprise when I was new to driving.

From Update #1: John E. Roosevelt Family Photo Album: The Motor Parkway Near Ronkonkoma, Circa 1911

What a treasure! Thank you Frank for forwarding these gems, you made my day! Im going to need time with these

From Update #1: John E. Roosevelt Family Photo Album: The Motor Parkway Near Ronkonkoma, Circa 1911

I have a copy of the Official Program of the Long Island Automobile Club’s April 26, 1902 One-Hundred Mile Endurance Test, the same one that Mr. Howard Kroplick mentioned that he had recently purchased in his 14 Oct 2017 posting on this website.  Would you (or someone else) like to have another copy?  It’s not in the best shape.  The biggest problem is some water stains, and some of the pages are coming loose.  But it’s all there.  It’s yours for the asking.  Thanks.

From Ads From the Long Island Automobile Club 1902 Offical Program "One-Hundred Mile Endurance Test"

Howard-
Thanks for a great presentation last night at the the Northport Library. This is the second one that I have attended, and I always find them informative. Also, congratulations on your success at Pebble Beach.

From Howard Kroplick Events and Automobile Shows (Updated: October 19, 2018)

This simple home today strives to exist, just like any other home. Its past purpose has no connection to its current existence. How did I get into this? Geez, leave this home alone! There’s no connection to the past folks. Should’ve kept my big mouth shut

From Update #1: Time to Wail: The Western Wall of the Mayan Ruins is Gone

The home today is an ordinary homestead, with no attachment to the past. Please respect the homeowners privacy.

From Update #1: Time to Wail: The Western Wall of the Mayan Ruins is Gone