Vanderbilt Cup Races

I think you men were near the OBVR bridge (Clody). I’ve seen those wood posts as ROW boundary fencing for the LIMP in some of the old photos. And the wood posts are in a straight line.

From Mystery Foto #57 Solved: Sam Berliner III and Al Velocci in Battle Row in Old Bethpage

Location is Old Bethpage.  Might Al and Sam be looking at fence posts to keep animals (and maybe humans) off the roadway.

From Mystery Foto #57 Solved: Sam Berliner III and Al Velocci in Battle Row in Old Bethpage

It looks like the cleanup crew at the Old Bethpage LIMP location in 2006.
The wooden posts were original markers along the parkway.

From Mystery Foto #57 Solved: Sam Berliner III and Al Velocci in Battle Row in Old Bethpage

This is Joseph DeBono,  Sam and Al Are At Battle Row Park They Are Looking at the original wooded motor parkway post Surprising the post last this long Keep up the good work

From Mystery Foto #57 Solved: Sam Berliner III and Al Velocci in Battle Row in Old Bethpage

Old Bethpage I believe with original LIMP posts, though the last pic with all three gents strongly resembles the Roslyn Lodge area

From Mystery Foto #57 Solved: Sam Berliner III and Al Velocci in Battle Row in Old Bethpage

My guess would be the Bethpage Bikeway before they uncovered it and restored it. The last picture lookd down from an embankment at the guys, maybe the old botto bridge ? Wooden post had an eyelet through it, not necessarily a guard rail, but an outer fence to keep motorists seperate from the farm. Purely a guess since theyre deep in the woods.

From Mystery Foto #57 Solved: Sam Berliner III and Al Velocci in Battle Row in Old Bethpage

Battle Row Camp grounds across from Old Bethpage Village Restoration

From Mystery Foto #57 Solved: Sam Berliner III and Al Velocci in Battle Row in Old Bethpage

The Boundary markers at Old Bethpage Village Restoration area?

From Mystery Foto #57 Solved: Sam Berliner III and Al Velocci in Battle Row in Old Bethpage

Battleground Row.  East of Round Swamp Road, before the LIMP passes into what is now Old Bethpage Restoration.  The posts are the original LIMP wooden posts, which predate the cement posts that are still found on some of the old right of way.

From Mystery Foto #57 Solved: Sam Berliner III and Al Velocci in Battle Row in Old Bethpage

Wait a minute now, come to think of it. I wasn’t even driving yet , so it had to be in the 50s. I started driving in 1957

From Roslyn Times:"Kroplick to speak at Landmark Society" at 7:45pm, Tonight at Atria of Roslyn

Art:  Possibly W. Wiggli’s Salon or Niggli’s. My initial search of Sing Lee’s laundry had sent me to Los Angeles and quickly gave up.

Howard:  I sent a sister photograph of this one that may help determine location.

Very interesting story about this 250hp monster and amazed how quickly it was scrapped!
Thanks to all for sharing.

Frank

From Mystery Foto #56 Solved: Paul Sartori in Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt's 250-HP Custom Built F.I.A.T.

Your presentation last night brought back many memories to me when I was younger in the late 60s and early 70s. I remembered a few things about Port Washington when visiting my relatives, also in Sands Point. My Dad had business friends there and they showed us around the private areas, so I’ve seen a lot of what’s in your book. You certainly keep L.I. alive any way you can. I’m really going to enjoy this book, and I’m not one to read a book, they bore me, but not this one, it’s something I’m interested in and can relate to

From Roslyn Times:"Kroplick to speak at Landmark Society" at 7:45pm, Tonight at Atria of Roslyn

Looking at the signs on the building one obviously is Sing Lee Laundry - an internet search found a1903 listing of establishments having been inspected by the NYS Dept. of Labor with two Sing Lee Laundrys in NY County - one at 318 W. 16th Street and one at 7 St. Marks Place (aka E. 8th Street).  Anyone able to decipher the sign at the left of that - best I can make out is ??gglis and possibly “bungalow”?  More work to be done.

From Mystery Foto #56 Solved: Paul Sartori in Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt's 250-HP Custom Built F.I.A.T.

Weather permitting I’ll see you

From Roslyn Times:"Kroplick to speak at Landmark Society" at 7:45pm, Tonight at Atria of Roslyn

Willis Avenue at Mineola RR Crossing as opposed to Main Street Mineola RR would be a better guess, since it travels through to Jericho Tpk.

From Mystery Foto #55 Solved: Walter Christie Driving the #9 Christie in Mineola on September 21,1906

Great letter.  And that Packard is amazing looking!

Ron

From Exclusive Firsthand Account of the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race: "A Very Successful Trip"

1906, Paul Sartori driving Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt’s (Willie K’s cousin) 250hp racer. Location could be NYC’s Hells Kitchen near 368 W 53st. based on the address on the horse drawn buggy.

From Mystery Foto #56 Solved: Paul Sartori in Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt's 250-HP Custom Built F.I.A.T.

From Ariejan Bos:

I enjoyed very much the eyewitness report letter. Through these documents the events, which seem so far away in time, come really close to us.

From Exclusive Firsthand Account of the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race: "A Very Successful Trip"

From Linda C.

What an interesting letter from 1904 “ A Very Successful Trip”. I enjoyed that

From Exclusive Firsthand Account of the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race: "A Very Successful Trip"

Have to give up on this one.
It looks to be Alessandro Cagno, but he only paticipated in one Cup race and not two as suggested by the photo caption. That’s also certainly not the #12 Itala he drove in the V.C.R.- but the car does look like it could possibly be Italian made.
I’ve even searched through many G.G. Bain photo archival websites and can’t seem to find a match there either.

From Mystery Foto #56 Solved: Paul Sartori in Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt's 250-HP Custom Built F.I.A.T.