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The six Vanderbilt Cup Races held on Long Island from 1904 to 1910 were the greatest sporting events of their day, and the first international automobile road races held in the United States. The races had a far-reaching impact on the development of American automobiles and parkways. This site provides comprehensive information on the races, the Long Island Motor Parkway and current Long Island automotive events, car shows and news.
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Bob C:
i just want to thank you Howard for all you do throughout the year ... i wish you good health and happiness for 19 and beyond
Bob
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As always an interesting newsletter to which I look forward to each Sunday morning.
Happy New year!
From The Top Twenty-Five 2018 Posts on VanderbiltCupRaces.com
Good job guys. I have a questions regarding this location. Why was a bridge with three openings on the Parkway level built here ? This is the only location I’m aware of where multiple openings are on the Parkway level, all the others are on the highway level.
From Mystery Foto #52 Solved: The Creedmoor Motor Parkway Bridge in 1928
Here I go thinking again…The article in The Brooklyn Eagle explains the construction of the underpass we all visited a couple of years ago. The oncoming Union Tpke severed the path south of the Creedmore Bridge.Wonder why the underpass wasn’t built where the path was severed? Wouldn’t have to remove the Creedmore Bridge and the tunnel would just be under Union. Would’ve / Could’ve I guess. Very glad that this image of the bridge is known!
From Mystery Foto #52 Solved: The Creedmoor Motor Parkway Bridge in 1928
I believe the photographer is looking west from a position about 50 feet east of the Creedmoor bridge which was original built as a farmway bridge to allow access to and from several farms that were on both sides of the LIMP. The building in the background is Creedmoor State Hospital on the south side of Union Turnpike which was using the bridge as a pedestrian crossing to its property on the north side of the LIMP. I’m not sure but I think I’ve seen a similar photo with a November, 1932 date so that’s my guess. Could that car belong to Robert Moses who was out looking at the road he would eventually put out of business? I couldn’t find it but I think the photo may be on the Queens Borough President’s Collection of the NYC Municipal Archives.
From Mystery Foto #52 Solved: The Creedmoor Motor Parkway Bridge in 1928
Forgot to ask what form 1040’s in. Hee, hee, III
From Video: Restored Tucker 1040 Sold for $1.45 Million at RM Auctions
Ooh; one for each foot! Whatcha t’ink, Howard? Sam, III
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Howard I
Good idea!
From Video: Restored Tucker 1040 Sold for $1.45 Million at RM Auctions
Bob C.
i just want to thank you Howard for all you do throughout the year ... i wish you good health and happiness for 19 and beyond
Bob
From The Top Twenty-Five 2018 Posts on VanderbiltCupRaces.com
The story behind the “Dante City” is most interesting to me.
From The Top Twenty-Five 2018 Posts on VanderbiltCupRaces.com
The Creedmoor bridge in Queens, used as a pedestrian and possibly vehicle overpass over the LIMP. (“Highway ” bridge) connecting Creedmoor State Hospital properties.
The two pillar supports are unique and different from other LIMP bridges.
The background buildings appear to be hospital buildings.
Approximate date :1925 based on looks of auto.
From Mystery Foto #52 Solved: The Creedmoor Motor Parkway Bridge in 1928
SO the last line of the description states that “a car which is most certainly the finest restored example available today at any price.” I assume this is from the RM auction catalog? I wish they would clarify that a little better - is it the finest restored example of any of the Tuckers existing today ? or just the finest example available for sale ? or what? A very bold statement indeed, if they mean it is the finest example extant. And if so who determined that - an “expert” ?? Great auction company but the hype perhaps is a little out of hand and at least to me some words could have been chosen more carefully.
From Video: Restored Tucker 1040 Sold for $1.45 Million at RM Auctions
Excellent find Howard. I’ve seen Martens’ videos of the ‘64-‘65 NY World’s Fair but managed to miss this gem. After verifying, I now see he also filmed the ‘39-‘40 World’s Fair. Can’t wait to check that one out.
Not sure about Old Courthouse Bridge, but if so, they’re standing on the west side of the bridge with photo facing NE. It’s the only way to light up that abutment wall that’s facing southward. To include lighting up the bridge (as shown), the photo had to be taken sometime in the afternoon.
The bridge in the photo however is single metal rail. All the other LIMP highway bridges in photos are all double railed (including farmway wooden rails). The only bridge in photos that matches is the Westbury bridge. And as crazy as this sounds, a possibility that they’re standing below the Motor Pkwy on Westbury Rd, on the south side of the bridge (bridge facing southward, abutment wall facing southeastward). The closest LIMP exits from here are Meadowbrook lodge to the west, and LIACC temporary entrance/exit to the east.
To continue, the other photo of the couple cuddling at the passenger door, shows a building in the background (outside driver’s window) resembling the double stacked chimney LIACC clubhouse. But I can’t verify the photo’s location/position. I suspect it was taken on the LIMP bend in Levittown by Carnation Rd, and then they exited at LIACC.
The Martens’ are from College Point, so likely entered the Motor Parkway from the Western Terminus, and exited at LIACC to Westbury Road. No more Starbucks coffee for me, goodnite!
From From A Grandfather's Photo Album: The Durant Special on the Motor Parkway in 1923
Safe to say this image will replace/become a Bridge Series main photo!
Location & Orientation: Oakland Gardens, Queens NY. View is SW, then curving a true west.
ID Bridge & Purpose: Creedmoor Hwy Type that provided vehicle access on either side of the LIMP. Hospital buildings to south, farm fields to north. Guess this overpass was long enough to require 2 steel supports.
Building in distance: large building for Brooklyn or Creedmoor Hospital.
Owner of Auto: Thinking the owner may be a road inspector for the Motor Parkway. The Auto is parked in the grass, owner likely snapped this photo and made notes about the condition of the boundary wire fencing.
Time of Image/Rationale: I’ll say February 1930. The bend to the west looks to be original, before the re-locating to the north due to Union Tpke widening.
I’m skipping the Kudo. Happy New Year to All!
From Mystery Foto #52 Solved: The Creedmoor Motor Parkway Bridge in 1928
-Identify the location and orientation of the photographer
On the LIMP (West bound going away from the photographer) looking through the Creedmoor bridge
-Identify the Motor Parkway Bridge and its original purpose
Creedmoor Bridge; a highway bridge connecting the properties belonging to the State Hospital at Creedmoor.
-Identify the building in the background
Creedmore. That specific building still stands and houses the Lifeline Center For Child Development.
-Who was the likely owner of the automobile seen in the Mystery Foto?
My first guess would be the photographer of the photo.
-What was the month and year of the Mystery Foto? Provide a rationale.
Nov 27, 1928, prior to Union Tpke expansion
-Kudos question: This image can be found on which online photo database?
NYC Dept. of Records
http://nycma.lunaimaging.com/luna/servlet/detail/RECORDSPHOTOUNITARC~32~32~1153000~561862:bpq_00724-a?qvq=q:Motor+Parkway&mi=12&trs=14
From Mystery Foto #52 Solved: The Creedmoor Motor Parkway Bridge in 1928
Changing answer - looking west.
And original bridge connecting parts of the Creed farm.
From Mystery Foto #52 Solved: The Creedmoor Motor Parkway Bridge in 1928
Identify the location and orientation of the photographer
Queens, 1500 feet east of Winchester Blvd. looking east
Identify the Motor Parkway Bridge and its original purpose
Creedmoor Bridge, original highway bridge built in 1912.
Identify the building in the background: Creedmoor hospital building. One source also said a National Guard building was also in the area.
Who was the likely owner of the automobile seen in the Mystery Foto? Three choices: Relative of Howard, Willie K. himself or toll-keeper of the nearest lodge.
What was the month and year of the Mystery Foto? Provide a rationale. Nov. 27, 1928. Caption on actual photo.
Kudos question: This image can be found on which online photo database?
Queens Borough President archives, NYC Municipal digital archives
From Mystery Foto #52 Solved: The Creedmoor Motor Parkway Bridge in 1928
My guess too, Brian!
From From A Grandfather's Photo Album: The Durant Special on the Motor Parkway in 1923
This is great! Old Courthouse Rd Hwy Bridge is jumping out of my head, east or west.
From From A Grandfather's Photo Album: The Durant Special on the Motor Parkway in 1923
I know this was done a few years ago but thought I would ask.
Is the photo of the Adam Klein Farm? I am a descendant and would love to get a copy. If you know of an archive of area photos please let me know. Thanks
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Howard Kroplick
Rich, let me know the specific area of Queens that you would like to see and I will send you several early aerials.
From Mystery Foto #40 Solved: The 73rd Street Motor Parkway Bridge in 1927 Looking East
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