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The six Vanderbilt Cup Races held on Long Island from 1904 to 1910 were the greatest sporting events of their day, and the first international automobile road races held in the United States. The races had a far-reaching impact on the development of American automobiles and parkways. This site provides comprehensive information on the races, the Long Island Motor Parkway and current Long Island automotive events, car shows and news.
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1932 Aerial over Queens
Lower left showing 2 bridges (LIMP) over Winchester Blvd.
The proposed road was Union Turnpike.
From Mystery Foto #23 Solved: Planning for the Extension of Union Turnpike in Queens (Circa 1931/1932)
Location is Bellerose, Queens. I assume that the planned road is indicated by the black parallel lines, and that would be Union Turnpike. Major north-south roads, which cross the Motor Parkway, are from west to east, Winchester Blvd., Commonwealth Blvd., and Little Neck Parkway. The road in the center right, which runs diagonally, is Shiloh Ave. In the upper left can be seen the Grand Central Parkway, but it looks like it’s under construction. The Cross Island Parkway is missing from the photo. Since the GCP opened in 1936 and the CIP opened in 1940, I would put the date of this photo in the early-to-mid ‘30s.
From Mystery Foto #23 Solved: Planning for the Extension of Union Turnpike in Queens (Circa 1931/1932)
What a great aerial depicting “what’s to come!” Another hard to find gem. Great stuff!!
From Mystery Foto #23 Solved: Planning for the Extension of Union Turnpike in Queens (Circa 1931/1932)
Regarding the posts—-I certainly thought these wood posts had to be original to the LIMP. Then one day while on a run, I go over the Stewart Ave bridge over the Wantagh, the first bridge north of this location, and found these exact same posts still there. These must have been original Wantagh Parkway bridge posts, but it seems like they are not original to the LIMP.
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #9 East Meadow and Levittown
-Identify the location
Directly over Creedmore
-Identify the major roads
LIMP horizontally, Winchester Blvd vertical on the left, Commonwealth Blvdvertical on the right
-What is the major road being planned?
Union Tpke
-Which Motor Parkway bridges are in the Mystery Foto?
Winchester, Creedmore, Commonwealth, and Little Neck Pkwy bridges
-What is the approximate year of the aerial. Provide a rationale.
Both Winchester bridges present so a guess would be 1931/32
From Mystery Foto #23 Solved: Planning for the Extension of Union Turnpike in Queens (Circa 1931/1932)
This ts the Creedmoor/Glen Oaks area of eastern Queens circa 1930 or thereabouts. Both Union Tpke. and the Grand Central Pkwy. are in the planning or ground clearing stages. The Motor Pkwy. is shown crossing Winchester Blvd.,Commonwealth Blvd.,and Little Neck Pkwy.
From Mystery Foto #23 Solved: Planning for the Extension of Union Turnpike in Queens (Circa 1931/1932)
Hi Tom, here is a map link to Deepdale’s location.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1396j0_672hYkvbcNFJInbc1mXNJspD9f&ll=40.76128665219122,-73.70715602543396&z=17
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #9 East Meadow and Levittown
Looks like the re routing of the Motor Parkway at Winchester Blvd just west of Creedmoor in the 1920s to make room for Union Tpk
From Mystery Foto #23 Solved: Planning for the Extension of Union Turnpike in Queens (Circa 1931/1932)
Great photos! Thanks for sharing!
From Tucker 1044 Awarded a Best in Class Award at the Greenwich Concours d'Elegance
I always found the ROW’s for the LIMP & Central RR interesting East & West of the Wantagh Parkway. Feel that you’re going to find something that you haven’t before.
Too bad they gave the ‘how you dare look’ when passing through the grandstand area. Takes more than that to break us.
Perfect time of the year to witness the road bed E/O Jerusalem Ave. Nice images guys.
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #9 East Meadow and Levittown
Can someone help me out: Where is the precise location/directions to Willie K.‘s Deepdale Mansion? Is it approachable by car? Who owns it today and how is it purposed? Does anyone have a link to present-day photos of the mansion? Thanks!
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Howard Kroplick
Here is a link to a current view: http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/index.php/blog/article/mystery_friday_foto_20_a_parking_lot_for_a_long_island_meeting
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #9 East Meadow and Levittown
Dave and Sam, always love your explorations and observations along the old LIMP. Your discoveries help assist in locating the actual roadway and its structures, and any changes to the roadway up to this current point. Your contributions are always most appreciated. In regard to “Leading up to the Wantagh Parkway - there is pavement underneath here”, I believe at this point, you guys were just over the Central Railroad RoW (CRR), with the LIMP RoW approx 60’ just north, on the eastbound lanes of Salisbury Park Drive. That’s my thoughts. I could be wrong.
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #9 East Meadow and Levittown
Great stuff! There’s always something to learn here. The celebrity pics are great and also including WWI Ace Rickenbacker. Much appreciated, thanks!
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: Peter Helck, Golfer Gene Sarazen and Old 16 in 1948
Congratulations Howard on winning the Best in Class Award for the Tucker at the Concours De Elegance car show it is a well deserved award.
From Tucker 1044 Awarded a Best in Class Award at the Greenwich Concours d'Elegance
#1 Heleck
#2 golf cleats
#3 Byron Nelson
#4 National
#5 It looks to be 1954 because of the caddy tow car
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: Peter Helck, Golfer Gene Sarazen and Old 16 in 1948
Artist Peter Helck seated on the mechanician’s seat and possible owner of Alco Old 16 at this time, first U.S. winner of the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race driven by George Robertson. Guessing the athlete is a golfer, possibly wearing cleats, but who? Check out those cars parked in the lot, that’s a mystery all its own.
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: Peter Helck, Golfer Gene Sarazen and Old 16 in 1948
Congratulations Howard! Sorry I missed Greenwich but it was nice to see you and the Tucker 1044 yesterday at the AACA Meet at Old Westbury Gardens where it was surrounded by spectators once again. It looks spectacular in that green color.
From Tucker 1044 Awarded a Best in Class Award at the Greenwich Concours d'Elegance
Identify the artist (right): Peter Helck
What in the Mystery Foto provides a hint at the athlete’s sport? Driver’s shoe (golf)
Identify the athlete (left).: Golfer Gene Sarazen
Identify the race car and its owner. #16 Locomobile, owned by Peter Helck at the time.
What year was this photo taken? Provide a rationale. 1948 Previous blog posts.
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: Peter Helck, Golfer Gene Sarazen and Old 16 in 1948
Another WELL DESERVED FIRST PLACE !
From Tucker 1044 Awarded a Best in Class Award at the Greenwich Concours d'Elegance
WHOO! That was far more work than I expected but my LIMP Page 12 <http://sbiii.com/limpwy12.html> is now converted and posted, with Roslyn coverage as promised, plus John Russell Pope. Pp. 10 and 11 (other subjects) to follow. Sam, III
From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #8 Garden City
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