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Wayne Woodbury, Can you tell me when the Central Railroad tracks were taken up thru Eisenhower Park ?

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documentation of the Long Island Motor Parkway Bridges in Nassau County (#28-#42)

With commission I estimate 2 1/4 million. Good Luck!

From Update: A Renault Vanderbilt Racer was Sold Today at the Amelia Island Auction

Thanks for the reply. My main interest has been with the Central Railroad of Long Island (Stewart Line) that ran through the area. Several publications have stated incorrectly that when Levittown was built (1948-1951) the railroad delivered building supplies to an area east of the parkway near Newbridge Road. Some said a RR bridge was built over the parkway and some even say that there was a crossing at grade and the parkway was flagged when a freight movement was necessary. Can you imagine trying to flag traffic to a stop on the parkway? The railroad did rebuild a couple of miles of track east from Merrick Ave to a spot just behind NUMC where the jail now stands. An excellent LIRR wesite arrts-arrchives.com confirmed this with maps and photos. The photos show the most basic temporary track laying. No way the RR was going to foot the bill for a parkway bridge to take the track further east for a few years. God knows Robert Moses wasn’t going to do it.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documentation of the Long Island Motor Parkway Bridges in Nassau County (#28-#42)

The wealth of information on this site is staggering. I only recently discovered it. Thank you. There is an aerial photo on this site that clearly shows the Motor Parkway crossing the then new Wantagh State Pkwy (1938) on a bridge. This bridge is not included in any ground photographs and is not mentioned in any texts. Yes, it would have been built decades after the original Motor Parkway bridges presumably by Robert Moses as he brought the Wantagh Parkway through the area to link up with the Northern State. Interesting since the Motor Parkway was on it’s last legs at this time.
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Wayne, welcome to the website! Yes, Robert Moses built the Motor Parkway Bridge over the Wantagh State Parkway just when the Parkway was closing. He was not a happy camper!

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documentation of the Long Island Motor Parkway Bridges in Nassau County (#28-#42)

Oops - the USMC was WEST of the gas holder, between that and the east end of the Curtiss plant on the SE corner of Clinton and Stewart.  One comment that I let slide is the frustration that the top of the photo doesn’t quite reach the east end of the Curtiss plant (13 Aug 2018 Mystery Foto #32).  So many of these fab photos stop just short of some feature of great interest.  Curses; foiled again!  Hey, look again at Brian’s Myst. Photo #19 Hammond 1950 aerial.  Is that a race track immediately west of Raymond Ct. or just a now-gone running track for the Stewart School?  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #8 Solved: A 1951 Aerial View of Mitchel Field & the Motor Parkway & 2017 Circus Trains

I noticed the B building still looking the same in a 1966 aerial ( but surrounded by a whole lot of newer buildings on the N/S of Stewart Ave ) It’s directly across the 2 narrow Mitchel Field buildings S/O Stewart Ave ( black lined in 1951, white lined in 1966 ).

From Mystery Foto #8 Solved: A 1951 Aerial View of Mitchel Field & the Motor Parkway & 2017 Circus Trains

Al, a construction schematic indicates the girder’s size at 106’ 0” on the west side, and 105’ 2.5” on the east. The 1926 aerial measures the bridge’s shadow at 107’.

From Kleiner's Korner: Documentation of the Long Island Motor Parkway Bridges in Nassau County (#43-#52)

I referred to the Mitchel Field Atlas below for the B? 

The long narrow building east of General Bronze must have been built after June 1950 since it’s not in the aerial below, but existing in the 1951 aerial.

From Mystery Foto #8 Solved: A 1951 Aerial View of Mitchel Field & the Motor Parkway & 2017 Circus Trains

Art, Has anyone commented on the length of the Parkway bridge over Central Ave./LIRR at Bethpage? The three span Parkway bridge over Westbury Ave. in Mineola is less than 80 feet across. the one over Central Ave./LIRR is between 96-100 feet. Anyone?

From Kleiner's Korner: Documentation of the Long Island Motor Parkway Bridges in Nassau County (#43-#52)

“Known for it’s good food”

From Kleiner's Korner: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Advertising Part I

Let’s spend a few days at the Meadow Brook Hotel, I hear they have good rates.

From Mystery Foto #7 Solved:The Intersection of Old Country Road & Post Avenue in Westbury (1908 & 2020)

The lake or the 2 ponds south must be fed by an underground spring for flow to occur. And maybe the natural elevation is higher to lower north to the harbor? It’ll be neat to witness the Gristmill in action!
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Howard Kroplick
Brian, you are 100% correct. Silver Lake and the Roslyn ponds are fed by springs from the surround hills (including Harbor Hill). Our end objective is to return the water mill to the Roslyn Grist Mill.

From The Restoration of the Roslyn Grist Mill (Updated: February 27, 2020)

Howard, thanks for the posting Roslyn Times of Jan. 31, the page of the photo collages in the middle with me your groupie next to your favorite co-author Al Velocci checking out the water is still flowing from Silver Lake.

From The Restoration of the Roslyn Grist Mill (Updated: February 27, 2020)

We are looking west with Stewart Avenue being the main road going from the lower right corner to the top center. The LIMP is curving eastward from Clinton Road near the top right corner. Several airplanes are parked on a taxiway near the upper left corner. Besides Stewart Avenue, the major roads in the photo are: Commercial Avenue; Wheeler Avenue; Miller Avenue; Duncan Avenue; Hazelhurst Avenue; Selfridge Avenue; and Bane Road. The Central Branch of the LIRR runs through the center from top to bottom. The golf course is the Intercollegiate Golf Club (Old Westbury Club) in the upper right corner. Based on an enlargement of some of the cars, I think the date is around 1950. An old diagram shows building “A” as bldg. 368 and that’s the best I could do for buildings before running out of time.

From Mystery Foto #8 Solved: A 1951 Aerial View of Mitchel Field & the Motor Parkway & 2017 Circus Trains

Very happy to see this historic artifact safely in good hands.

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: The Last Known Surviving Poster for the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race

    Thank you Howard for the memories. I spent the 50s along the Old Motor Parkway between LIJ Hospital and Hillside Avenue and Wheatley Hills Golf Course. We had a high swing near the Motor Parkway where Herricks High School is today. We called the woods, ” Bloody Hollow.” In the fullness of time I have learned that there are several “Bloody Hollows” on Long Island.

From Newsday: Ready for HIS STORY

*Orientation of Photographer - viewing west

*LIMP - upper right of image, curving north past Clinton Rd

*Planes - located at runway area south of Commercial Ave, east of Oak St

*Roads - LIMP, Stewart Ave, Ellington Ave, Main Gate ( Selfridge Ave ),Miller Ave, Oak St, Commercial Ave, Clinton Rd.

*Buildings:  A - Visiting Officers Quarters, B - Recreation Center ( Military? ), C - Stewart School, D - General Bronze Co., E - A & P warehouse

*RR and Golf Course - LIRR East & West, Meadowbrook Golf Club

*Year & rational - I’ll say 1948. I don’t witness the General Bronze Co. in a 1940 aerial, and the long narrow building east of General Bronze is gone in a 1950 aerial. Upon extreme zoom, this long building has lettering along it; but I can’t form it together.

From Mystery Foto #8 Solved: A 1951 Aerial View of Mitchel Field & the Motor Parkway & 2017 Circus Trains

Great work! sleuthing is well rewarded in these priceless artifacts!

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: The Last Known Surviving Poster for the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Wonderful artifact ! thank you for sharing this with us.
Walt G.

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: The Last Known Surviving Poster for the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Must have been a nice surprise for Mr. Vanderbilt. Good timing as well.

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: The Last Known Surviving Poster for the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race