Vanderbilt Cup Races

Based on the shadows near the car, could we be looking south? Since there’s a train crossing sign, the road is probably going north-south. This might be Jerusalem Road (today’s Stewart Avenue) in Central Park (Bethpage). This could be the site of the groundbreaking ceremony for the LIMP construction. Maybe the group of people were trying to select the actual site for the officials stand. If any of this is true, then A. R. Pardington is probably there.

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

Al - I searched a bit, but haven’t found yet why a bridge was built for Ellison Ave instead of a short tunnel due to the elevation. Below states a pedestrian overpass was first built in 1896. Bob Emery’s drawing shows bridge construction in 1907 ( a year prior to the 1908 VCR ), and again in 1947. Then we know the recent bridge work completed in 2016.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: The Winner of the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race in Roslyn

1. Stewart Ave looking south in bethpage at the LIMP intersection. We’re looking at the future site of the stewart ave(jerusalem)  bridge
2. Groundbreaking took place in the area on the right where the gentlemen are standing
3. Pardington and/or Willie K?

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

Ah, a repeat from mystery photo #17 Apr 26th 2016.

-Identify the location in the Mystery Foto and orientation of the photographer.

Krug’s Corner at the intersection of Willis Avenue and Jericho Turnpike in Mineola. The photographer was looking east straight down Jericho Turnpike.

-Which building in the Mystery Foto is still standing?

136 Jericho Turnpike, the building on the southeast corner of the intersection-now Atlantic Travel.
From mystery photo 17;  ‘Al Velocci believes the building was moved east with the expansion of Willis Avenue. The buidling on the southeast corner was taken down in the early 1970s.’

-Associate the Mystery Foto with the Vanderbilt Cup Races.

There are many photos of this location especially from the 1906 races. With some of my favorites being from the Pickering Collection, that coincidentally, seemed to be a topic of conversation today!

-What was the likely purpose of the tour?

According to the Garden City Archives, these cars were on their way to take a tour of the proposed course for the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race, including sections of the Long Island Motor Parkway under construction.

-What was the likely month and date of the Mystery Foto?

This was taken during the summer of 1908 during the construction of the LIMP.

-Kudos question: Identify one or more automobiles in the Mystery Foto.

I’ll go for the easy one and say the second one in from the right can clearly be ID’d as an REO (Model C) on the radiator.

From Mystery Foto #11A Solved: From the Garden City Archives- A Tour in 1908

The train seen in the above 1906 photo is at the deadend of the RR siding that was utilized by Nassau County Power & Light. The siding was removed in 1956. How do I know this? Courtesy of the maps below.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: The Winner of the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race in Roslyn

Will do Al—-last year we found a lot of posts (not cedar—just regular ones) on the SOUTH side—-see pics. I don’t recall anything on the south side but we will definitely investigate.

From Sammy & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #13 Melville

I read with interest the above post. The fatal accident of Mr and Mrs Fair apparently had slipped my memory, but I looked up some information in my archive. It includes a detailed description and comment of the accident in The Motor-Car Journal and in La Vie au Grand Air the last photo of Mr Fair was shown with him standing next to William Vanderbilt who had not long before broken the world speed record with the partly visible Mors. I hope this will be of interest!

From Kleiner's Korner: Mechanician Al Poole - Letters from Home

Speaking of railroad bridges over/under roadways, does anyone know why Ellison Avenue in Westbury was bridged? The terrain wasn’t an issue.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: The Winner of the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race in Roslyn

Frank, Your forgetting the railroad bridge over over East Shore Rd., Great Neck and over Manhasset Valley /Bayview Ave.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: The Winner of the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race in Roslyn

Thought to submit the below aerials showing Panoramic views of Mitchel Field before and during the reconfiguration. The last aerial actually shows the footprint of the road west from the Base Hospital, which was built right over the former road. All courtesy of The Cradle of Aviation Collection.

From Update #2: In Search of the Mystery Camp Mills "New York" Road

Hadn’t done so because it never occurred to me that it was for real.  That’s the beauty of these blogs - there’s always something new to learn.  Thanks, Al (and Howard)!  Sam, III

From Vanderbilia: A Unique Scorecard for the 1910 Vanderbilt Cup Race

I wasn’t aware there were any RR bridges over roadways this early on Long Island. Thought all were at grade, except at extreme circumstances.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: The Winner of the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race in Roslyn

I’m too late, but I would’ve said this is rough and hilly terrain, most likely closer to the north shore somewhere. I just don’t know where. Looking forward to all the guesses/answers

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: The Winner of the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race in Roslyn

Dave, Check the eastern end of the ROW Great Neck School, beyond the paved area. Twelve years ago there were some original cedar posts still in place on the north side. Al

From Sammy & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #13 Melville

Sam, Re: Fal automobile, check Wikipedia

From Vanderbilia: A Unique Scorecard for the 1910 Vanderbilt Cup Race

I like the 2005 picture, clean, green and peaceful.

From Kleiner's Korner: The Long Island Motor Parkway and Levittown

Mystery Foto #10… The car is the 100hp Darracq which was the winner of the 1906 VCR with driver Louis Wagner and mechanician Louis Vivet.
The date was October 6, 1906.
As for how the photographer got this shot I want to say he had a camera drone but more likely he was up on a telephone pole.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: The Winner of the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race in Roslyn

Zoom Test 2

From Kleiner's Korner: The Longest Motor Parkway Bridge Was Built with an Eye to the Future

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From Kleiner's Korner: The Longest Motor Parkway Bridge Was Built with an Eye to the Future

I would love to see a book that has photos of the entire length of the Motor Parkway in the past and whats left of it in today’s world..

From Sammy & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #13 Melville