Vanderbilt Cup Races

From what I gathered here, Round Swamp Rd was originally planned as a Highway Bridge ( over the LIMP ) right up until the Citizens Objection 10/19/1908 ( 5 days before the VCR ). Fairly sure the road from Farmingdale to Hicksville is Round Swamp Rd. I then find it hard to understand that bridge work at this location would be undertaken with the race coming up ( Round Swamp Rd was part of the course ). There was work being done here, sounds like the objection put a halt to it. The Parkway Type Bridge here was built in 1910.

Westbury Pike - Merrick Ave?

From Kleiner's Korner: The Motor Parkway Bridges & the Nassau County Board of Supervisors in 1907 & 1908

R. Troy - I was WRONG!  Yes, I freely admit it; I only just now stumbled on the full story, profusely illustrated, in the May 1974 Road & Track, SALON, pp.  83-87, in my PDF files.  Those dark bands around the front and sides are nine copper tubes per side in lieu of a radiator.  The car was wrecked in a race ca. 1915 and the engine and chassis were then separated.  Reunited in 1940 and totally rebuilt from about 1964 through 1970, what you see today, while a major restoration, is truly the 1903 Packard Grey Wolf!  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #14 Solved: The Packard Gray Wolf Takes a Turn During the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Found this ad and thought of the mystery photo.  From Motor Age, 1910.

From Mystery Foto #9 Solved: A Bleriot Monoplane Racing a Vanderbilt Cup Racer in 1910/1911

Interesting blog, Denny.  Thanks for the link.

From "Roosevelt Field and Ye Motor Parkway" Executed by Artist Eric Sloane

Easy does it!  There WAS no 1938 or 1939 race, only 1936 and 1937.  This pic clearly shows the revised 1937 course, as evidenced by the straightened inner north-west straightaway cutting right across the tortuous 1936 chicanes highlit by white arrows on the attached excerpt.  Sam, III
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Howard KroplickI

Sam III, the remnants of the 1937 course remained for many years through the midget racing phase of Roosevelt Raceway:
http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/aerial_views_of_roosevelt_raceway_after_1937

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: An Aerial of Roosevelt Raceway and Westbury Circa 1937-1939

Check out my blog on Eric Sloane.

http://dennyhatch.blogspot.com/2020/04/90-eric-sloane-marketing-cartoon-art.html
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Howard Kroplick

Denny, fun blog, some images look familiar!

Also,super images of the Long Island Aviation Club on the Blog! Do you have more? If so, please forward to .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) for re-posting. Thanks!

From "Roosevelt Field and Ye Motor Parkway" Executed by Artist Eric Sloane

Thank you.

From Update on Gofundme campaign: Anthony J. Causi, beloved photographer,dies of COVID-19 at 48

Condolences to the Causi family and friends.  Although hard to realize tough times make us stronger.  And also puts petty differences in perspective!  Have faith Brian!

From Update on Gofundme campaign: Anthony J. Causi, beloved photographer,dies of COVID-19 at 48

Sad news. Condolences to the Causi family and prayers to Brian’s cousin and all victims of this tragedy

From Update on Gofundme campaign: Anthony J. Causi, beloved photographer,dies of COVID-19 at 48

You Tube still has a great video on Packard, I think from History Channel.  There are at least 2 good videos, one of them spending time on the amazing Packard factory, and the other talks about the Proving Grounds which I think the Packard Club is working to restore.

From Mystery Foto #14 Solved: The Packard Gray Wolf Takes a Turn During the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Great stuff guys! I’m interested!! Keep ‘er going

From Mystery Foto #14 Solved: The Packard Gray Wolf Takes a Turn During the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Sorry for his family and friends. I have a cousin who’s battling the virus. Praying and hoping every day.
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Howard Kroplick

Brian, our prayers are with your cousin and family.

From Update on Gofundme campaign: Anthony J. Causi, beloved photographer,dies of COVID-19 at 48

Mystery Foto #15… The location of the photo is Roosevelt Raceway around 1937. The major roads seen in the photo are Old Country Road, L.I. Motor Parkway and Stewart Avenue. Braman Johnson or BramanButters was the aerial Survey company who shot these photos. Taken, as I say, around 1937 or 1938.

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: An Aerial of Roosevelt Raceway and Westbury Circa 1937-1939

You had a very nice car.  Mine is the last remaining of the cars my father collected, a Packard 243 Touring.  A somewhat oddball, because while it’s a 2nd series car, it was build during the transition to Series 3, and it has at least one Series 3 part - the single piece windshield.  Every pic I’ve seen of other 243’s shows a 2 piece.  But when this car was brand new, the owners took a photo of it next to the 1916 Packard Touring car it replaced, and that single piece windshield is clear.  I can’t remember what, but I think there was a 2nd difference.

From Mystery Foto #14 Solved: The Packard Gray Wolf Takes a Turn During the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Over Westbury, Long Island looking south at Roosevelt Raceway and Meadow Brook Hunt Club Polo Fields. Major roads from north to south, Ellison Ave, Carle Rd, Old Country Rd, Merrick Ave (Whaleneck Rd), Motor Parkway, Stewart Ave, and Long Island Rail Road. LIMP Merrick Ave bridge can be seen next to Meadow Brook Lodge, Roosevelt Field bridge next to its twin Meadow Brook Hunt Club bridge. Administration Bldg (newly built?) in the center for the 1937 races near gate #2 (officials only). Photo could be a Fairchild aerial but they usually come sharper. Both 1936 and 37 raceway layouts can be seen. Photo likely taken during preperation for the 1937 races. Fortunoff Mall, Cheesecake Factory, and Dave & Busters occupy this space today

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: An Aerial of Roosevelt Raceway and Westbury Circa 1937-1939

Looks like the start finish line of Vanderbilt Cup, grand stands on either side of the club house. Possible location could be present day Levittown.  The roadway in front of the building & stands would be Motor Parkway.

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: An Aerial of Roosevelt Raceway and Westbury Circa 1937-1939

C’mon, R. Troy - most of us are “car people”.  Don’t keep us on tenterhooks.  We all know what Howard and Bruce have.  Just what have you in your garage (please)?  Sam, III (formerly a ‘31 Chrysler Imperial 8 owner)

From Mystery Foto #14 Solved: The Packard Gray Wolf Takes a Turn During the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race

have no idea… a surprise to me and i thought i know this kind of stuff

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: An Aerial of Roosevelt Raceway and Westbury Circa 1937-1939

I only learned recently that Packards had been raced, so this is rather neat!  I grew up with Packards - it will always be my favorite (including the one in my garage).

From Mystery Foto #14 Solved: The Packard Gray Wolf Takes a Turn During the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race

1. Roosevelt Raceway
2. Looking South
3. Motor ParkwayOld Country Road, Merrick (Whaleneck) Ave., Stewart Ave., Cherry Lane, Ellison Ave. Carle Rd., Rd. connecting Ellison Ave. and Motor Parkway
4. Merrick Ave. Bridge & Lodge, Roosevelt Field Bridge
5. The building was first a hanger, followed by a restaurant/bar and the Raceway Administration Building
6. John Drennan (guess)
7. Mid-late 1930s (possibly 1937)

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: An Aerial of Roosevelt Raceway and Westbury Circa 1937-1939