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Corrected 1966 aerial

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

Sam - Thank you and Dave for info on #35’s continuous journeys. I saw her sitting on the Eisenhower (Nassau County Park) lawn by herself, likely with tender, off Merrick Av and she was pointing west, and thought the display seemed odd at this particular location. Thanks to you, I’ve learned it was sitting on the former CRR RoW. A great display spot after all. I’m guessing at the time of her removal, it was due to vandalism, jeopardizing the machine. Painting a loco? I wish I knew you guys growing up

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

Frank, thanks to LIRR historian Dave Morrison, I now have the dates for #35’s peregrinations.  She was emplaced in Salisbury Park on 22 May 1956 and left for her Mitchel Field stay on 16 Jun 1978.  So, no post-2000.  You may have seen her sitting alongside the NCPD hangar at Mitchel.  She left there for Oyster Bay on 02 Aug 2001.  We slapped a coat of cosmetic paint on her ca. 1960.  [For ref., Salisbury officially became Eisenhower on 13 Oct 1969.]  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

I’ve always been curious about the trees lining both sides of Stewart Ave. between Merrick Ave. and New Bridge Ave. Take a look at Frank’s 1938 photo, the trees are well defined and note that there are similar plantings on Merrick Ave. between the Parkway and Hempstead Tpke. and also lining the main entrance into the Meadow Brook Club. Who, why and when ?

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

Al - You’re right on. Stewart Av bridge was more east as indicated by my map. Your detailed history of the area is always amazing to hear and learn from. Thanks as always, for sharing your knowledge of the LIMP

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From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

Sam, I clearly remember a loco pointing west off Merrick Ave, just south of Stewart Av. I didn’t know at the time it was positioned on the CRR ROW, near the lake. Great stuff! I saw the loco positioned post 2000 AD. Was this the same loco still in place?

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

Did you notice that it’s an illustration of a Savoia Marchetti S55 airplane on the cachet rubber stamp.

From Updated: Historic Seaplane Milestones at Manhasset Bay

Last 3 images below.

From Kleiner's Korner: Part V - Motor Parkway Maps and More

I was able to access much clearer 1930 aerials of the Bagatelle Nursery Farm and properties near the LIMP. I now don’t see any type of bridge on the below aerials marked as : 1930 - 1 & 1930 - 2. But just north of here, I notice a ‘narrow line/path possibly’ between the Holmes & Yaiser properties. Then possibly a narrow bridge over the LIMP & Path,then abruptly angles southwest to Bagatelle Rd towards the nursery. This is marked on the 1930 - A & 1930 - B aerials. This is gone or not visible on the 1947 aerial w/overlay. An article from 1927 with Christian Yaiser.

From Kleiner's Korner: Part V - Motor Parkway Maps and More

For the RR buffs amongst us, LIRR G5 steam loco #35 was on display for a while in the ‘50s-‘60s just east of Merrick Avenue on the CRR RoW, as shown on <http://sbiii.com/lirrcrr1.html>, just north of today’s 9-11 Memorial and just NE of the old puppet theater.  A pic of the loco sitting there, facing west, is on <http://sbiii.com/lirr-etc.html#Loco35>.  Of course, the Salisbury Plains Station is on the north side of the CRR RoW just west of Merrick Avenue, north of the Meadowbrook Club.  See <http://sbiii.com/lirrcrr1.html#slsbrypl>.  HEY!  If it’s 1966, how come the NYU high pressure sphere is visible?  As I recall, NYU didn’t take over the Club and erect that sphere until the ‘80s.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

HA!  An “array” can be linear.  I thought you meant the dense clump to the south of that and was sorely puzzled.  This pic is a winner in so many ways!  Thanks, Richard and Howard.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

Frank, Got another one for you, only for the sake of accuracy. In that photo you also locate the former Stewart Ave. bridge. It wasn’t where you have it. O.K…, this might be tough to follow. The curved section of the Parkway,.... east of New Bridge Ave.,... originally dipped further south into in that area of Eisenhower Park where the dog run, the ball field and the office building are located today. In the mid- 1950’s Nassau County, opened today’s western potion of Salisbury Park Dr. in the bed of the Motor Parkway. At the same time the County renamed that portion of New Bridge Rd. north of the park to Salisbury Park Dr. connecting it to the east-west portion of Salisbury Park Dr. and eliminating the original intersection with Stewart Ave.  The original Parkway curve was much more severe than today’s curve, so the county, in it’s wisdom, flattened it quite a bit. If you look at the 1954 photo that Howard has labeled, “an earlier mystery photo submitted by Richard Panchyk”, its possible to reconnect the two sections of the New Bridge Rd. and pickup the original Stewart Ave route east of New Bridge Ave.  I believe Howard has a survey map showing the 1950’s re-alignment. Whew!

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

Al - Rushing to send the photo last night, I just realize another error. The former site of the Stewart Ave bridge is slightly west. Stewart Ave’s location is barely seen on the right edge in the photo . One shall not rush these things.

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

Al - Good catch. The private old road was access to the Meadow Brook Hunt Club. I often wonder if the road was shared with airport security in passenger vehicles, as it dead ended right up to Mitchel’s runway 23.

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

Frank, The photo you just posted, you describe an old roadway to Mitchel Field. ...Thru the Meadow Brook Club ?

  thru the Meadow Brook Club ?

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

Mys 29 again

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

-Identify the location, major roads and sporting areas
The upper section of Eisenhower Park. ‘Whale Neck Ave’, Salisbury Park Drive. The Stewart Ave park (Park Blvd) entrance.

-Identify the residential communities
My old neighborhood of [Westbury]Salisbury on the East side of Stewart in the upper right!

Where is the Motor Parkway right-of-way?
Of the 3 ROW’s [remnants] visible, the uppermost.

-What major Motor Parkway remnant was still visible?
The keyhole driveway to the expansive McCamish estate

-What was surrounded by the array of trees in the middle of the Mystery?
Old Stewart Ave ROW

Kudos question: Identify the date of the Mystery Foto. Provide as many rationales as possible.
Judging by the state of Eisenhower and the Meadowbrook Pkwy, I’ll guess 1958ish

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

In a 1992 edition of Games by James Whitehall the estimated value of the Vanderbilt Cup Race game was $650, for the Teddy Roosevelt game value was also $650 but seemed to have gone for $900.  The latter also appeared to advertise the Cup game.

From The 1907 Vanderbilt Cup Race Board Game

Lots of goodies in this Salisbury aerial with north up. Salisbury Links, then Nassau County Park (1949), and now Eisenhower Park’s (1969) Red Golf course in upper center. Roosevelt Harness Raceway in upper left. Ladenburg’s horse race track just off the photo in upper right, today it’s the East Meadow Public School District. Park Blvd is the curvy road in the center. Motor Parkway is just above it running horizontally. Meadow Brook State Pkwy in lower left, Merrick Ave diagonally on the left. Salisbury Drive diagonally on the right. Old tree-lined Stewart Ave still visible cutting horizontally through the park. Old Bellmore Road also visible cutting diagonally through the park. Mitchel Gardens Housing Complex below Roosevelt Raceway on the left. Salisbury housing community off Ladenburg Drive on upper right. LIMP’s Meadow Brook lodge entrance ramp still intact. The lodge, Merrick Ave bridge, Newbridge Ave (Bellmore Rd) bridge, and Stewart Ave bridge have all been removed. Photo date is after completion of MSP (1956), after demolition of the Meadow Brook lodge (early 1960s), and during Roosevelt Harness Racing (1966)

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: A 1966 Aerial of "Salisbury Park" in East Meadow and the Motor Parkway ROW

Art, Regarding you license plate identity question. It was not issued to any specific person or automobile. The M designation was issued to automobile manufacturers and dealers Depending on their needs, they would order several so they could move them from vehicle to vehicle as needed. They usually came with sequential numbering..

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 1 - Where Will the 1907 Vanderbilt Cup Race be Held?