Vanderbilt Cup Races

Over Mineola/Carle Place/East Williston looking north on top at the Northern State Parkway/Meadowbrook State Parkway interchange.

Motor Pkwy running vertically about 1/3 from the left. From the north, Wheatley Hills golfway bridge, Hillside Ave parkway bridge, Jericho Tpke highway bridge with Mineola lodge.

MSP/NSP interchange, Hillside Ave/Jericho Tpke interchange, LIMP, Glen Cove Rd.

Wheatley Hills Golf course.

Date could be before the LIE construction in 1958. I don’t see GCP’s exit ramp to access the LIE, at the north end of GCP’s Objector’s Bend at the top of the photo.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A 1950 aerial over the Northern State Parkway from the Cradle of Aviation Archives

-Location and orientation of the photographer
Looking North over Westbury / Westbury Road and Glen Cove Road

-Location of the Motor Parkway and its structures
Enters the picture bottom center. Bridge over Jericho Turnpike clearly visible, not so much over E Williston Ave or the golf course.
Road to the Jericho Turnpike Lodge is seen.

-Major roads and parkways
Jericho Turnpike and E Williston Ave cut righ to left center
Glen Cove Road top to bottom
NSP snakes in center right to middle top

-Golf course
Currently the Wheatley Hills Golf Club. Originally the William Titus farm a farm bridge was built over the LIMP. Became a golf course in 1913 as the Midland Golf Club.
https://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/long_island_motor_parkway_bridge_series_25_wheatley_hills_golfway_bridge_in

-What was the date of the Mystery Foto? Provide a rationale.
Between 1934 to 1958. The LIE made it to Glen Cove Road in ‘58 which sets the latest date, actually earlier sined that is the date of opening and no construction is evident.  The route of the Northern State Parkway was extended around “Objectors’ Bend” to EXIT 31 (Glen Cove Road) in Carle Place in 1934 (Wikipedia).

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A 1950 aerial over the Northern State Parkway from the Cradle of Aviation Archives

Photographer facing north
The LIMP runs north and south from th bottom of the photo next to the white portion (possible sand pits) up the the golf course. There is an underpass and a ramp to the LIMP
Northern state pkwy, meadowbrook pkwy,  glen cove rd hillside ave. Jericho tpke
Wheatley hills gc
1957 since the Meadowbrook was completed in the fall of 1956

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A 1950 aerial over the Northern State Parkway from the Cradle of Aviation Archives

RE:Covid Vaccination. Because of an email I received from Roslyn Historical Society,I was able to get an appointment at Stonybrook. I want to send a heartfelt thank you. Thanks,Howard, Casey DeNicola

From COVID-19 Vaccine Links

Thank you for posting this and for all your work on this treasure of a website. Can you describe how far the walk is from the parking area to the vaccination area. I am taking my mother on Friday. Appreciated!

From My COVID-19 vaccination experience at Aqueduct Racetrack in Queens

Mystery photo #5 is where the Northern State Parkway crosses Glen Cove Rd.  The roadway going left to right is Rt 25/Jericho Tpke.  The camera is facing north and the golf course in the distance is North Hills Country Club.  The Vanderbilt Hwy is at the right edge of the group of houses and passes under Jericho Tpke.  I see my mom’s house in the photo and it was built in 1952 so my guess as to the year of the photo is 1953.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A 1950 aerial over the Northern State Parkway from the Cradle of Aviation Archives

Someone asked about the name Suburban. It not exclusive to cars. Trolley companies used it in the 1800s.  Jos Cantrell called his Woodie hacks Suburban’s. He never took out a copy write on the term so Chevy and GMC used it for free.  Albert Cantrell’s son was a lawyer and went to work for Chrysler about 1959.

From From the Hugh Nutting Collection: Insight into the Woodies of Huntington's J.T. Cantrell and Company

The photographer was over Mineola looking north toward East Williston. The LIMP is just to the left of center running north/south with the most visible structure being the bridge under Jericho Turnpike. Other structures would have been the Mineola “Toll Lodge”, bridge over Hillside Avenue (E. Williston Ave.), Wheatley Hills golfway bridge, Robbins Lane farmway bridge, Roslyn Road bridge and Roslyn Lodge, LIRR bridge and Willis Avenue bridge. Additional major roads include Glen Cove Road, Northern State Parkway and possibly I. U. Willets Road. The golf course is Wheatley Hills. It appears that the Hillside Avenue bridge has already been demolished, which I believe happened in 1940, so I’ll guess 1940 for the date.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A 1950 aerial over the Northern State Parkway from the Cradle of Aviation Archives

Art’s comment reminds me that the brothers John and Anton Kliegl invented the klieg light that found widespread use in early Hollywood. They named their light the “kleiglight” but somewhere along the way the “light” got separated from the “klieg.”

From Audio: "The Little Chauffeur" from the 1906 Broadway Show "The Vanderbilt Cup"

The creator of the effects, Kliegl Brothers, was located near the Theater District in Manhattan.

From Audio: "The Little Chauffeur" from the 1906 Broadway Show "The Vanderbilt Cup"

Ever wonder how the special effects in the Vanderbilt Cup Race Broadway production were done? Here you go with a special nod to the photographers and special effects gurus among our readership.

From Audio: "The Little Chauffeur" from the 1906 Broadway Show "The Vanderbilt Cup"

I believe the photographer as over the Roosevelt Field area, looking North. E see the Northern State Parkway interchange with Jericho and the Meadowbrook. The Wheatley Golf Course is near the top of the picture. The Motor Parkway comes South from the golf course, crossing Hillside Ave. and then Jericho. The Motor Parkway entrance to Jericho is visible, and also possibly the Roslyn Lodge.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A 1950 aerial over the Northern State Parkway from the Cradle of Aviation Archives

The photographer was over Carle Place near the Mineola border. The view is looking north. Jericho Tpke. bridge over LIMP and the Mineola toll house and the Hillside Ave. bridge are visible. Can’t make out if the farmway bridge and Roslyn Road bridge have been demolished yet. The LIRR bridge would still be there, but not visible. Northern State Pkwy. and Guinea Woods Rd. running parallel north/south and Hillside Ave. and Jericho Tpke. both running east/west. LIMP made it’s curves through Wheatley golf course and heads south through Mineola and Carle Place. The Roslyn Country Club home development behind the golf course was built mostly in 1949. The roads are clearly visible,but I can’t see any houses. Best guess when this picture was taken would be 1949 -1951.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A 1950 aerial over the Northern State Parkway from the Cradle of Aviation Archives

They been trying to make cars fly and float for ever! Even James Bond had flying cars.
AMC Hornet (?) and cars that become submarines Lotus Elite.  But in the end, cars do
much better on the ground. Want to fly, get a plane, Want to go to sea, get a boat.
Great piece of history, Thanks

From A 1936 flying car, Roosevelt Field and a Tucker engine

At this point I have tracked this car to Wayne NJ. No one has returned my call. If any reader knows if it I could make a positive ID with images of the dash board and one from the rear with the tail gate down. It looks like it spent the last 47 + years in NJ mostly parked outside.  Thanks Hugh Nutting now in MT.

From From the Hugh Nutting Collection: Insight into the Woodies of Huntington's J.T. Cantrell and Company

For years the Broadmoor used Pierce Arrow touring cars. Many were scrapped where the Air Force Academy is now. They had cast aluminum bodies that were broken up for the WW2 scrap drives. After the war most of the Broadmoor fleet was Cadillacs.

From From the Hugh Nutting Collection: Insight into the Woodies of Huntington's J.T. Cantrell and Company

I don’t think I have any images of John. He was at the “First Day Cover” Woodie stamp event in Denver and at a VMCCA tour to Sun Valley ID in the early 1990s.

From From the Hugh Nutting Collection: Insight into the Woodies of Huntington's J.T. Cantrell and Company

Found among Peter Helck’s black and white sketches in the Helck Family Collection is this one of a dangerous curve in the Paris to Madrid race. Similar to Ariejan’s picture above except that the dog in this one didn’t appear to be quick enough.

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 2 - The Race that Brought Willie K. "Racing" to America"

An interesting news article of Willie K. and a drowning Foxhall Keene!  From The New York Times of Sept, 14, 1901.

From Nassau County Historical Society Journal: Foxhall P. Keene and His "Life of Pure Delight"

*Area & Direction: viewing north over Mineola, East Williston, Roslyn.

Remaining answers on the marked map attached. Based on the 1950 LRV aerial, say the date of the mystery foto is around 1950. The junction of the Northern State & Meadowbrook Pkwys doesn’t exist yet, not until 1956.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A 1950 aerial over the Northern State Parkway from the Cradle of Aviation Archives