Vanderbilt Cup Races

Sorry to hear of Sam’s passing. May he RIP.

From Sad News: The Passing of Sam Berliner III

Roosevelt Field, from the South parking lot looking Northwest at Macy’s.  Approximately from the Fall of 1957.  Pictures below are from the same vicinity and time frame as the mystery shot.  Cars have era appropriate license plates.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: The Open-Air Roosevelt Field Mall in 1957

Roosevelt Field Mall from a parking lot on West side of mall looking south east.
Date: Some time in late 1950s early 1960s judging by the cars and the open mall.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: The Open-Air Roosevelt Field Mall in 1957

Now I just realized Howard’s last NE aerial shows the former alignment perfectly. So more like opposite of the ball field between Jamaica and Willow.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A 1950 aerial over the Northern State Parkway from the Cradle of Aviation Archives

Your right Al. The map below shows the east ramp from Asbury. This would be just about opposite of today’s Willow St.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A 1950 aerial over the Northern State Parkway from the Cradle of Aviation Archives

One more picture of the 14th hole.

From The Golf Courses Along the Long Island Motor Parkway

The Motor Parkway ran along the right side of the 14th hole of the Glen Oaks Country Club, obviously out of bounds.  The par 5, 553 yard hole ended at a “castle built of sand”, most probably referring to the multiple sand traps surrounding the green.  Who knows, a very errant shot at the flag may have ended in Willie K’s. Deepdale Estate.  I wonder if any cars traveling on the Motor Parkway ended up being a victim of an out of bounds shot, similar to ones I’ve made at Eisenhower Park, along Salisbury Park Drive, formerly the Motor Parkway!  Artile is from The Film Daily of June 24, 1936; photos are from 1928 and 1952.

From The Golf Courses Along the Long Island Motor Parkway

Beautiful Chevy, the year I was born. Amazing maintenance and restoration well done after all these years.

From Test drive the Mercedes EQ this Sunday

Looks like the Roosevelt Field of my youth. I think the photographer is looking southeast, because the Macy’s was at the south end and the shopping center was west of the Meadowbrook Parkway, which can’t be seen.

The cars (left to right):

1956 Chrysler
1953 Dodge
1953 Chevy
1956 Ford
1951 Ford (or a ‘49 or ‘50)
1956 Pontiac (or a ‘55)

The cars on the extreme left and extreme right, not enough is visible for me to tell.

Date: 1956, the year the mall opened, based on the cars.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: The Open-Air Roosevelt Field Mall in 1957

Al, Brian, Regarding Asbury Ave.  I think that the original east bound entrance to Northern State Pky from Glen Cove Rd. was from Asbury Ave.  And, that changed with the building of the Meadowbrook Parkway thru that area. The present day eastbound entrance from Glen Cove Rd. to the Northern State is in the same alignment with Asbury Ave. The western terminus of Asbury today is at Jamaica Blvd. Once the snow clears, going to check if there are any concrete remains west of the end of Asbury Rd.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A 1950 aerial over the Northern State Parkway from the Cradle of Aviation Archives

Hi, I think it’s Roosevelt Field mall before it was enclosed.. the orientation is northeast ? The car .... maybe 57 Chevy? I moved to Hempstead in 1963, so I’m guessing the year of the photo is 1960? Maria Pisano

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: The Open-Air Roosevelt Field Mall in 1957

Soon after the first running of the Cup race, the attitudes of farmers on Long Island had changed due to the economic impact and usefulness of the automobile in transporting their goods to market.  Arthur Pardington reinforced this attitude in this article first appearing in “The Automobile” and then reprinted in “Motor Talk” in May of 1907.

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 1 - Vanderbilt Cup Race Illustrations of "The NY World" - The Impact on Farmers

Yes, Al. I remember driving through Asbury Ave and it’s construction is similar to the original Northern State Pkwy. Knew I was parallel with the Northern State, and figured it was a service Rd.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A 1950 aerial over the Northern State Parkway from the Cradle of Aviation Archives

Wondering, after the Motor Parkway sold the Petit Trianon in the late 1920s what became of the place until the fire in 1958?

From 1958-1967 tours of the Long Island Motor Parkway #6: Petit Trianon in Lake Ronkonkoma

The last 2 photos are definitely the steps leading towards the lake.Kept looking back and forth at Ron Ridolphs photos, and the present day images that we’ve captured.

From 1958-1967 tours of the Long Island Motor Parkway #6: Petit Trianon in Lake Ronkonkoma

Sam - here’s an article from The Automobile of May 10, 1906 with some more info. on the Zust.  Hope all is well!

From Kleiner's Korner: Two Cars that Didn't Make it to the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race

I was curious about the street that branches east from Glen Cove Road just south of the Northern State. Looking at a modern map, I see that it must be Asbury Avenue, which no longer connects with Glen Cove Road due to the presence of the Meadowbrook.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A 1950 aerial over the Northern State Parkway from the Cradle of Aviation Archives

I can just make out the road barrier between Jericho Tpke and the Mineola Lodge in the last 1950 aerial. And the LIMP is more clearly seen through the golf course.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A 1950 aerial over the Northern State Parkway from the Cradle of Aviation Archives

Neat.  Understand how it needs to be moving forward at speed to keep cool, so I’m guessing that the HP and torque show a lot lower than if there had been a way to keep that big radiator and engine cool enough.

From The Alco Black Beast passes a dyno test

The Nethercutt ALCO was found right here in Ridgefield, Ct. by Henry Austin Clark some time right after WWII. Junk yard is long gone and is part of St. Mary Cemetery.

Bob

From In Search of Alcos: #5 1912 Alco 7-Passenger Touring Car at the Nethercutt Collection