Vanderbilt Cup Races

Art, are there any more maps connecting to Ronkonkoma?

From Kleiner's Korner: Riverhead, Long Island - Proposed Site for the 1907 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Nice find Art! Based on the two Riverhead maps above, an overlay of the proposed Motor Parkway in Riverhead

From Kleiner's Korner: Riverhead, Long Island - Proposed Site for the 1907 Vanderbilt Cup Race

I really appreciate all the comments , plus the added information ! My pleasure to post what I can here and have the items /material availability to do so. More signs on their way but I have been working many hours to complete a story for Crankshaft magazine and finally got it researched, written and typed including 18 photo captions then scanned it all. It is on the history of the Willoughby Coach Builders of Utica, NY.  I will get to the sign photos for here this week

From A Walt Gosden Special: Signs of the Times Part I

Most likely just coincidental, but the proposed Ronkonkoma loop track has a very similar layout to the 1936 Vanderbilt Cup course.

From Kleiner's Korner: Riverhead, Long Island - Proposed Site for the 1907 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Missed that mystery train again. 
Motor Parkway East under the Plainview Road Highway bridge (1908-1940s) in Bethpage State Park. Today the Seaford Oyster Bay Expressway’s north lanes partially occupies this space (Map below). The Motor Parkway in this photo follows today’s Picnic Polo Rd in Bethpage Park.
Likely Motor Pkwy manager Alfred J. Kienzle hired photographer to document parkway construction progress before the Parkway’s opening in Sept 1908.
Yes Brian, cedar posts at this time!

From Mystery Friday Foto #31 Solved: The Plainview Road Motor Parkway Bridge in Central Park (Bethpage) in 1910

The OB-Stamford ferry service that was discontinued in 1940 about same time as the opening of the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge in April 29, 1939.

From A Walt Gosden Special: Signs of the Times Part I

Plainview Rd Bridge in Central park ( now Bethpage) looking east
The road on top of the bridge was Plainview Rd and under is the Motor parkway
Date is some time after 1908, when the bridge was completed.
Photographer? Ed Spooner?

From Mystery Friday Foto #31 Solved: The Plainview Road Motor Parkway Bridge in Central Park (Bethpage) in 1910

This is Plainview Rd HWY Bridge overpassing the LIMP in Bethpage NY. Photographer is facing east. I’ll guess that he was jobbed by the LIMP Corporation to capture images of the LIMP ROW. Also guess this was taken around 1918. Bit blurry, but the automobile appears no older than 1920. If those are Cedar Boundary Posts, then pre 1920. These were replaced with Concrete Posts after 1921. Below is 3 screenshots of this location, courtesy of this website & Google Streetview.

From Mystery Friday Foto #31 Solved: The Plainview Road Motor Parkway Bridge in Central Park (Bethpage) in 1910

I think that’s the Plainview Road bridge in Central Park (Bethpage) and the photographer is looking east. Plainview Road is on top with the LIMP going through the bridge. Maybe the LIMP corporation or Willie K. himself employed the photographer to take promotional photos. Since there is no “Please Be Careful” warning on the abutment, the date must be before 1930. Along with style of automobile in the photo, I’ll guess the date around 1920.

From Mystery Friday Foto #31 Solved: The Plainview Road Motor Parkway Bridge in Central Park (Bethpage) in 1910

Center of Photo. Motor Parkway,  Road Overhead Bridge is Plainview Road
Central Park L I   NY.        Photo is Looking.  EAST.

From Mystery Friday Foto #31 Solved: The Plainview Road Motor Parkway Bridge in Central Park (Bethpage) in 1910

LIMP is up top.  Just east of the Bethpage lodge.  Looking south on Round Swamp Rd.

From Mystery Friday Foto #31 Solved: The Plainview Road Motor Parkway Bridge in Central Park (Bethpage) in 1910

This is the Plainview rd bridge in Central Park (Bethpage).  The photographer is looking east.  The motor parkway went under the bridge so its classified as a “highway” bridge.  This bridge was completed in time for the 1908 VCR in October.  However, the facade on side of the road deck on the overpass already looks a bit weathered.  The cement bridge abutments have already started to discolor and the grass on the sides of the road have reestablished itself.  So hard to guess the year on this picture.  Maybe 1918ish.

From Mystery Friday Foto #31 Solved: The Plainview Road Motor Parkway Bridge in Central Park (Bethpage) in 1910

Thanks again, Walt.  Here’s a picture of a sign I recently came across while reading an article about the LI Endurance Run of Sept. 16 & 17, 1908.  Wonder if its still around somewhere.  From “The Automobile” of October 24, 1908.

From A Walt Gosden Special: Signs of the Times Part I

The short section of the track on Bay Ave. I had mention was from an earlier effort
from 1897 to a long pier to accommodate a loaded train on to a ferry to another location in Conn. that didn’t do well and scrapped a short time later, nothing to do with the sign.

From A Walt Gosden Special: Signs of the Times Part I

Walt, that posting from The Stamford Historical Society, I notice of the ferry service timetable of the docking location in Oyster Bay, Oystermen’s Dock near L.I.R.R station, a conformation of the location that I had mention, and the date of discontinued service around 1940, Elizabeth E. Roosevelt, 90? last
of Roosevelt’s in Oyster Bay, had mention to me she had remembered the ferry service, really! I guess when she was about 8 yrs. old.

From A Walt Gosden Special: Signs of the Times Part I

Neat article Art!

From Kleiner's Korner: From Vanderbilt Cup Racer to Jaguar XK120

Walt, thank you for your information about the STAMFORD - OYSTER BAY FERRY sign.
I’m a member of the Oyster Bay Railroad Museum in the hamlet of Oyster Bay.
The museum is a two-part setup, the historic landmarked train station museum by the end of the Oyster Bay line branch. The other side is across of the train yard by Bay Ave. There’s small section on Bay Ave that has a short track from outside Museum train yard that would’ve gone to the ferry in the past, now occupied by fuel tanks and a yard of some sort.
Will be giving the museum officers a printout of this article. Thanks again Walt!

From A Walt Gosden Special: Signs of the Times Part I

Nice find, Mark D : )  The panorama maps are very detailed with building numbers and directory.

From Mystery Friday Foto #29 Partially Solved: A Mitchell at the "Proposed Entrance to the Motor Parkway at Hicksville"

THANKS GREG!

From Classic Motorsports January 2004: Hotrod Falcons: From Economical Grocery-Getter to International Racing Star

Congrats Howie & Roz (from the west coast branch of the family).  You gotta bring the Tucker back out to the West Coast for one or more of the fab classic car shows in California, so I’ll have an occasion to wear my Andante Green tucker cap again (since Pebble Beach 4 years ago).  Maybe Ironstone Winery Concours up in Gold Country (Murphys, CA) last weekend in Sept.????

From Update: Tucker 1044 awarded Best in Show at the Westhampton Beach Concours