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Frank, you may be on to something here. Take a look at the 1908 Powell Avenue image looking South. Could that be the Nibbe Farmway Bridge in the distance?

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Brian, I know the feeling. I’m about to throw the towel in on this one, ha. Third guess is Powell Ave hwy bridge first, then Nibbes farmway bridge in the distance, looking south, westbound on the LIMP (where today’s Rt. 135 runs south). http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/images/blog/Scanned_Photo-2_editedtiff_J11.jpg  The approximate distance between those two bridges would have been Approx 600ft or .11mi which coincides with the mystery photo. These two bridges would have been in view of each other. Only thing troubling is, like Sam says, the Huntington Sign doesn’t have meaning in that direction. But if you reverse direction, you lose the slight left curve at the bridge in the distance of the mystery photo. It’s possible they were warning LIMPers about parking at the lodge in both directions, while you visited Central Park. Was there back and forth golfing traffic going on in the park? Were U turns permitted on the LIMP? Be advised, “NO PARKING WEST OF HUNTINGTON LODGE”…or else. Not sure, just a theory. The Plainview Bridge sign heading towards the lodge was 3.4mi away from it and the (alleged) reversed Powell Ave sign was 3.8mi from the lodge. They were pretty close to each other in the park. The parking problem may have risen from the trolley running on Broadhollow Road. Howard, the Motor Pkwy Atlas is a great tool! Thanks for sharing.

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

Brian, don’t scramble your brain! However, Ruland/Melville Bridge can be ruled out since it was a “parkway” bridge that carried the Motor Parkway over the intersecting road rather than a “highway” bridge or “farmway” bridge which is shown in the Mystery Foto.

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

My brain is so scrambled now, so I’m writing down my thoughts before typing them. NO PARKING WEST OF. HUNTINGTON. LODGE sign must have been embled on more than 1 bridge in this immediate area. It does’nt seem to matter in what direction one would be driving on the LIMP because this. very sign is posted on the. Plainview. Rd. parkway bridge photo-looking east. ( steel tower on right ). The frontal overpass in the mystery photo has this sign as well, but it’s not the Plainview. Rd overpass. On the 1928 Melville Suffolk prints, it appears than Ruland (Melville)  Rd bridges over the LIMP, even though Ruland Rd is defined as a Parkway bridge. I’m too young to have a actual memory of this area when the remnants of these bridges were intact.  I’m still sticking with my second guess, which would be the Ruland/Melville Rd being the first bridge over the. LIMP; and the Baker bridge in the distance.

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

From Joseph (motorpky) DeBono:
“Howard this is Joseph(motorpky)DeBono The mystery photos of the two bridges are. The first one, Ruland rd The next one is a foot bridge ( a smaller bridge ) near maxess rd, near the Huntington lodge and route 110 Thanks Howard Keep up the good work, and the Chrysler is going to look great.”

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

Howard, the Long Island Motor Touring Club (LIMTC) would like you to provide a ” history of the Vanderbilt Races on Long Island” presentation at one of our monthly meetings. Would you be available on May 9th (Thursday) at 8PM?
Bill Murray (516) 2936378) LIMTC 2nd VP activities

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Forget it. The west railings don’t match OCR.

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

Fascinating, and educational.  Keep it up!

Thanks!

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Please Be Careful. Do Not Pass Cars On Bridges and Curves. My best guess so far is Old Courthouse Road bridge with an unidentified bridge further down (even though this is 18 mi west of the Huntington Lodge). My decision was based on those monuments that were found in the area as indicated on the 1928 Motor Pkwy Atlas. Later, new monuments were set in the same area indicating they were going to change or build something there. At N 40 45 47.2, W 73 41 02.6 I found concrete embedded in the dirt and what appears high elevation on both sides for a bridge abutment? Not sure.  http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/images/blog/Top-1132_edited-2-1.jpg

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

Tony
the lead work will stay, it is in good condition, it is stable and does not crack like plastic filler does if that is put on to thick , lead just makes the cars heavier. this shop can still do lead work like this if they feel it is necessary. Luxury production bodied cars (Packard, Cord etc.) of this era used lead to fill in places where body panels were joined.  Cars built a few years earlier would have a piece of metal trim nailed in place to conceal the joint where the two panels of the body would meet.

From Chrysler’s Chrysler Chronicle II: Restoration of the Doors, Rear Fenders and Skirts

A good site to see the LIMP in NYC is at the DOITT website listed below and click on the camera icon to change to the aerial mode.

http://maps.nyc.gov/doitt/nycitymap/

From Chrysler’s Chrysler Chronicle II: Restoration of the Doors, Rear Fenders and Skirts

What a job they’re doing,looking good as far as it goes now. Correct me if I’m wrong,when this car is finished,it will be the only 1937 Chrysler LaBaron on Long Island restored to it’s original condition and Howard you have it,along with the Black Beast too,what an amazing accomplishment.

From Chrysler’s Chrysler Chronicle II: Restoration of the Doors, Rear Fenders and Skirts

If this picture is really near the Huntington Lodge, then there must be a bridge missing from your overhead view.  My guess is it was between the Ruland Rd and Maxus Rd bridge.

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

Are you going to replace the lead that appeared when the steel was exposed during the restoration process?
Was surprised when they uncovered the rust.
Great story.

Tony

From Chrysler’s Chrysler Chronicle II: Restoration of the Doors, Rear Fenders and Skirts

Thanks to Howard and Walt for keeping us updated about Chrysler’s Chrysler.
It’s amazing discovering all the unexpected work that needs to be done on the car.
Roger Price

From Chrysler’s Chrysler Chronicle II: Restoration of the Doors, Rear Fenders and Skirts

Looking east: Bridge in foreground—Rte. 110
              Bridge in background—Maxess Road

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

First off, we have to be looking west from east of Broad Hollow (110) or the parking notice would have no meaning.  Next, the only place where there are two bridges close by with a gentle left curve would be the bridge where Northcote Drive is now (name?), looking west toward the Pinelawn Road Bridge.  This makes the assumption that the scene is, in fact, near the Huntington lodge (it ain’t necessarily so).  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

I really enjoy the updates, please keep them coming.

From Chrysler’s Chrysler Chronicle II: Restoration of the Doors, Rear Fenders and Skirts

GREAT TO SEE THE FINAL RESTORATION OF THIS ONE OF A KIND AUTO TAKE SHAPE. CAN’T WAIT SO SEE THE FINISHED RESTORATION.

THANKS FOR THE UPDATE.

ROGER

From Chrysler’s Chrysler Chronicle II: Restoration of the Doors, Rear Fenders and Skirts

Still to soon for an update on the chrysler? I watched the films you have of it,very interesting,really a classic car the it was built and how you’re trying to keep it the same.

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