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This one had me going too, Frank.  Where’s the fun of it , if it’s not challenging? I’m always ready for a mystery photo that might be in a offset direction. I first thought that was the case here.

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: 1938 Aerial of East Williston, Mineola & Carle Place

From Eric Baudo: “This section of the Motor Parkway is between Hillside Ave. (E. Williston Ave.), and Jericho Tpke. in East Williston and Mineola running North-South parallel to the “new” Northern State Parkway. There is an overpass at Hillside Ave. and an underpass at Jericho Tpke. The Mineola Toll Lodge is also visible south of Jericho Tpke. I attached a Google Earth image matching as close to the photo view as possible. Thanks to you, and Greg for the submission. I really enjoy this site!”

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: 1938 Aerial of East Williston, Mineola & Carle Place

This mid 1930’s aerial is viewed north. The LIMP is left of the aerial, with the Mineola Lodge south of the Jericho Tpke bridge. The next bridge north is at Hillside Ave, and then you see the turn into Wheatley Golf Club.The developing Northern St Pkwy is in the middle of the aerial, and Glen Cove Rd is to the right of the aerial. You can see a portion of Westbury Ave at the bottom of the aerial.

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: 1938 Aerial of East Williston, Mineola & Carle Place

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Good one Greg. Had me going for a while, jumping from Suffolk to Queens and back, to finally land in Mineola. o_O This aerial shows the LIMP exiting Wheatley Hills golf on top and going over the Hillside Ave ( E Williston Ave ) pkwy bridge. The two sand traps on the furthest right are still there today! The Jerico Tpke (as once spelled)  hwy bridge is located further south. I don’t see the kiosk at the top of the entrance ramp heading towards the Mineola Lodge so this photo was taken after 1921 when the kiosk was removed. Mr. Scheuer must be inside the lodge waiting very patiently for the next limper to enter down the ramp. I see the black porte-cochere covering the entrance ramp to the LIMP. Being that the parkway smoothly dipped under white Jericho Tpke, limpers probably accelerated downhill to just make it up on the other side, and for an extra burst of fresh country air. Guinea Woods Rd is to the right, running North-South and parallel to the LIMP. Can’t see the white picket fence under those trees either. Admiring all this open land, this area would be unrecognizable today. With the NSP in place just south of Objector’s Bend, this pic had to be taken on or after 1934.

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: 1938 Aerial of East Williston, Mineola & Carle Place

There was a traction system in Northport and one in Port Jefferson to Patchogue also

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Hillside Ave Bridge, Jericho Ave HW bridge and the Mineola Lodge. The Northern State PW is just to the East where it connects to the Meadowbrook PW.

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: 1938 Aerial of East Williston, Mineola & Carle Place

If I could get this, it can’t be hard: I say it’s the East Williston/Mineola area. The “modern” interchanges are the Northern State and Jericho Turnpike and Glen Cove Road. The golf course at the top/north is Wheatley Hills.

I see two bridges, but, alas, I can’t discern another Parkway structure, although I’ll guess it’s a tollhouse that I just don’t see.

Mitch P.

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: 1938 Aerial of East Williston, Mineola & Carle Place

I don’t know what’s more fun, being the ‘stumper’, or being the ‘stumpee’!!

What I especially love in this 1938 aerial is seeing the just built Northern State. There’s not even a Meadowbrook Pkwy yet. It’s interesting to note the differences between the entrance/exit ramp at the Mineola lodge and the new, ‘modern’ ramps of the NSP.  Also, on the Westbound NSP, it appears there was also an exit ramp right onto Jericho Tpke at what is only an entrance ramp today.
There’s also a different perspective of Guinea Woods Road from last week’s blog entry.

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: 1938 Aerial of East Williston, Mineola & Carle Place

It took a couple of minutes.  Asking for “other” structers helped give it away.  Top is Wheatley Hills Golf Club.  LIMP comes south over HIllside Ave, and under Jericho Tpke.  The Mineola toll lodge looks small.  Is it still a kiosk?
-joe o

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: 1938 Aerial of East Williston, Mineola & Carle Place

It appears that this is a similar omnibus as the steam omnibus produced by the New York Motor Vehicle Co, who showed this omnibus at the automobile show in Madison Square Garden at the end of 1900 (see Horseless Age Vol.7 No.6 p.37 and 38). It is unclear if this omnibus was already in actual service by then. Anyway, the company was apparently looking for more interest in the neighbourhood. Around the turn of the century the number of plans for motorized public transport grew often faster than reality could cope with. Many plans failed because of political, technical or whatever reason. So I’m interested if mr. Miller did succeed? In the Netherlands public transport with motorized vehicles in rural areas was successful only after WW1 (in which success the T Ford had a major role, by the way)!

From The "Automobile Stages" of Long Island

Wheeler’s Bridge was filled in the the 1960’s (I believe) to keep the roadway from collapsing. As a boy, I remember one day coming across another crossing near Creedmor and the entire roadway was gone. I almost fell in ‘cause I was going about 100 mph on my bicycle, as usual. They cut off that hunk and filled in the grade where it goes down to Winchester Blvd.! I do remember being able to look nearly straight down to Winchester at that end. It’s probably wooded slope now. Thank you all for the memories!

From The Lost Bridges of the Motor Parkway: The Wheeler Farmway Bridge in Queens

Oh, WOW!  Thanks folks!  Sam, III (in Massachusetts)

From The Wonderful "Clean-Up Deadman's Curve Day" in Bethpage

I was a little disappointed,I thought that there were going to be more antique cars,too many muscle cars and weren’t allowed to start up those drag racing cars,Pacer and two other plus your’s,they do it at other shows,it would have made it a better show,more exciting, It was good seeing you, See you next time

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Hi Bobby:
Great question! That section of the road is still called Guinea Woods Road. This link to the Westbury Quaker website provides the likely origin of the name:
http://www.westburyquakers.org/qt/archive/files/CSIntro.htm

From Then & Now: Guinea Woods Road in Old Westbury

Hi Howard!  Great job!  Great turn out!  We too are sorry we could not be a part of this historic clean up.  We did have our representative there to help out.  Passing the torch to the next generation.  Ann

From The Wonderful "Clean-Up Deadman's Curve Day" in Bethpage

Any thoughts regarding the origin of name of this stretch of Road…?  More people used to refer to it as Guinea Woods Road years ago…  Nowadays, folks just call that segment Glen Cove Road too…

From Then & Now: Guinea Woods Road in Old Westbury

Thanks to you all for doing this.  Looks like a really nice job.  I’m only sorry that I was unable to participate.

Ken

From The Wonderful "Clean-Up Deadman's Curve Day" in Bethpage

Thanks for that info about the fence Greg,I’ll check it out

From Then & Now: Guinea Woods Road in Old Westbury

Thanks, Howard! Great stuff.

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