Vanderbilt Cup Races

Thanks so much for the wonderful film. A great time capsule of people and cars.

From Images & a Trophy From the Greatest Vintage Car Event Ever Held on Long Island

Car#2 could be j12,a Mitchell,driven by Kerchoff,which came in 6th and the mechancian was standing on the runnning boaed or the j16,a Chalmers-Detroit,driven by George Ainsleewhich came in 2nd. Well tha’s it for me,have to get to bed,for the big day tomorrow

From Mystery Foto #32 Solved: Carman Avenue Bridge in East Meadow During the Opening of the Motor Parkway

Car #1 - Maxwell driven by Charles See in the 1908 Motor Parkway Sweepstakes
Car #2 - Mitchell driven by H.R. Cousins
Carmen Avenue Bridge, East Meadow
October 10, 1908 - Official opening of the Long Island Motor Parkway
Bonus - potato, corn or other crop harvester?

From Mystery Foto #32 Solved: Carman Avenue Bridge in East Meadow During the Opening of the Motor Parkway

Got me working on this one. I have some answers. Car#1 ji3 is a Maxwell driven by Charles See,who came in 4th. The name of the race is Motor Parkway Sweepstakes. The name of the bridge is Jerusalem Ave Bridge. This was only a trial race,not sure of the date,car#2 or the bonus,more research to do on those. Will be back with more

From Mystery Foto #32 Solved: Carman Avenue Bridge in East Meadow During the Opening of the Motor Parkway

-Which Motor Parkway Bridge is in the backround?

  Carman Avenue Bridge

-What was the date that the photo was taken? Besides the race, what other significant event happened on this date?

  The Motor Parkway Sweepstakes were held on October 10, 1908. The other event was the Motor Parkway opened for business on the same day.

Car #1: Name the manufacturer of the car, its driver

  #J13 Maxwell driven by Charles See. Finished 4th

Car #2: Name the manufacturer

  #J18 Mitchell driven by F. Zirbes. Finished 3rd

Bonus: Identify this vehicle.

  Is that actually a covered wagon with the top folded up??!

From Mystery Foto #32 Solved: Carman Avenue Bridge in East Meadow During the Opening of the Motor Parkway

Real quick,you guys are great,I kinda though they were Fiats,but couldn’t find if they were a team

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: The FIAT Team for the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Had some computer issues submitting my answers again the other day. To be sure, I’m re-submitting. DIsregard if duplicated.

This would be the 1906 FIAT race team presumably taken in Sept/Oct 1906.
Car #1 Felice Nazzaro-Mechanician: Fagnaan Antonia
Car #2 Vincenzo Lancia-Mechanician: Ajassa Battista
Car #3 Aldo Weilschott-Mechanician: Columbo

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: The FIAT Team for the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race

I have an update for you. In my travels I stopped to take another look,I met a neighbor,he said that it’s being kept clean by the neighbors and some other people are coming too,people were there just before I was. I’m not sure but I think some of the dirt was pushed to the sides,it might have been that way from the last time I was their. It really looks good

From The Wonderful "Clean-Up Deadman's Curve Day" in Bethpage

Hi,
Just back from holidays and no time for researches, so from my memory:
the Fiat team for the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup
From left to right: Felice Nazzaro, Vincenzo Lancia (Fiats from Hollander & Tangeman) and Aldo Weilschott (owner of the car).
Photo probably taken at the end of september prior to the race.
Next to Lancia is Emanuele Cedrino. Sorry, I don’t remember the two other mechanicians… but I’m sure at least one guy will! 😉

Have a good day.
Jean-Yves

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: The FIAT Team for the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race

It needs to come back to secure and public display on Long Island.

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

seems a shame to just be sitting in a ‘locker’ at the smithsonian and to only come out when ‘requested’...there must be a better place for it!

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

I too agree with keeping it here on Long Island,but as Bob said,the security problem

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

Let’s try this:
All three cars were Fiats that competed in the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race.  Picture probably taken in September or October of 1906.
Photo #1 - Car #4 driven by Vincenzo Lancia, Finished 2nd - Mechanician was Ajassa Battista
Photo #2 - Car #8 driven by Felice Nazzaro, Finished 6th - Mechanician was Fagnaan Antonio
Photo #3 - Car #16 driven by Dr. Aldo Weilschott, Finished 17th - Mechanician was Columbo

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: The FIAT Team for the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Fascinated by the story! Thank you very much.

Jen

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

Sounds like a great idea - wonder if it was made with Mackay silver?

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

Congratulations!  However, what an incredible foul-up for Hemmings!  The so-gennant “1947 De Soto” is actually a 1937 DeSoto Airflow!  Also, there is no space between “De” and “Soto” in the brand name.  Sam, III

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From Sam Berliner III:

Even though we aficionados know just what you mean, the phrase “the one and only Vanderbilt Cup” is a wee bit misleading to the general public; “the original Vanderbilt Cup” might better serve.  There’s always the 1936-37 George W. Vanderbilt, III Cup and the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup; neither one is “the” V. Cup”, but each, quite unlike the CART Cup, is very definitely “a” V. Cup.  Sam, III

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

Even though we aficionados know just what you mean, the phrase “the one and only Vanderbilt Cup” is a wee bit misleading to the general public; “the original Vanderbilt Cup” might better serve.  There’s always the 1936-37 George W. Vanderbilt, III Cup and the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup; neither one is “the” V. Cup”, but each, quite unlike the CART Cup, is very definitely “a” V. Cup.  Sam, III

From A CART Vanderbilt Cup Sighting in 2007

Howard -  Excellent historical background on ‘the Cup’.  I would certainly concur that it should be returned to a place of honor where it would mean the most -  Long Island.

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

Jeff, here is a link to the post on the EMRA “Vanderbilt Cup”:
http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/index.php/blog/article/friday_april_24_2009_a_vanderbilt_cup_seeking

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?