The six Vanderbilt Cup Races held on Long Island from 1904 to 1910 were the greatest sporting events of their day, and the first international automobile road races held in the United States. The races had a far-reaching impact on the development of American automobiles and parkways. This site provides comprehensive information on the races, the Long Island Motor Parkway and current Long Island automotive events, car shows and news.
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I think we’re looking north (or slightly northeast) from a point between Central Avenue and Powell Avenue through an area that was known locally as Nibbe Hollow in Central Park (today’s Bethpage). Off in the distance are the farm buildings belonging to the Stymus family. The photo was probably taken around August, 1908 and this section of the LIMP was completed in time for use in the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race. A large portion of this area was utilized for construction of the Seaford-Oyster Bay Expressway.
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
I have no answers but enjoyed seeing this very early picture of Long Island…
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
Enjoyed the pictures and explanations above…..Thanks…
From The Incredible Vanderbilt Cup Races on Long Island: The Role of Hicksville Updated: 11/22/16
Thanks for the Tucker presentation. It brings back memories(I was 10 years old in 1948) of my father showing me a Tucker (don’t remember where this was) and trying to explain some of its features. I was especially entranced by the center headlight.
Ken Harris
From The 1948 Tuckers: The Cammack Collection
I felt very proud and excited to have rode in the Black Beast race car, with Howard Kroplick. And to think we drove on a former site of the Motor Parkway on Long Island.
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
When I was a kid growing up in West Hempstead, I remember a Tucker dealership on Fulton St. in Hempstead just before where the A&S department store was built. I knew is was to be a Tucker dealership because the big Tucker sign was already installed on the facade of the building. Needless to say, that building never saw a Tucker.
Rog
From The 1948 Tuckers: The Cammack Collection
Mystery Foto #49…. The photo shows the Christopher Stymus farm on Norcross and Central Avenues looking east in what is now Bethpage. Photo taken in the summer of 1908. The 1909 and 1910 running of the Vanderbilt races ran on this section of the road.
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
Sept. 1908 The Peter Nibbe farmhouse in the distance looking northwest from the Bethpage Central Avenue Railroad bridge and the Nibbe Bridge in behind the trees.
Used in the 1910 Cup race.
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
Always loved this photo as well and instantly remembered it can be found on Page 32 of your book!
-Identify the exact location of the Mystery Foto and its orientation
Bethpage (Central Park) looking Easterly. This is the Northward turn at ‘Nibbe’s Hollow’ (Deadman’s curve #2) just before the Nibbe Framway Bridge.
-Identify the family that owned the farm buildings in the background
The William Stymus farm.
-When was this photo taken?
June/July,(probably) 1908
-Which, if any, of the Vanderbilt Cup Races used this section of the Motor Parkway?
1908 VCR
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
Growing up, my backyard boarded the 8 th precinct parking lot, which was motor parkway. As a kid, While digging for China with some friends, we dug up a motor parkway sign, which after doing some research may be a license plate! Then later growing up I ran cross country in high school, 1974. I must have ran past that concrete structure a hundred times on that cross country course wondering how and why that was there! I went on the trail recently looking for it and couldn’t find it. I can’t believe it’s gone, it was a piece of history. I had my suspicions that it was there for a purpose. Now it’s confirmed. Thank you for everyone that contributed to this article. It was first the Vanderbilt parkway, then motor parkway then part of it the lirr, now where the power lines run! ... (in bethpage between the 8th precent and the Levittown fire house.)
From Then & Now: The Botto Farmway Bridge in Bethpage State Park
I say bridge over Plainview Rd. Looking south west. Nebbe Farm.
Photo taken in the summer/fall of 1908, prior to the 1908 VCR.
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL
From The Twelfth Annual Thanksgiving "Turkeys on the Road"
As much as I like 20’s cars, this car is beautiful! Does Wayne actually own it? I can imagine him having done the restoration; it looks perfect in the photos. If only I could afford to have him restore my Packard 243 Touring! 😊
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From Howard Kroplick:
Barry Levinson was the owner when it was shown in the Amelia Concours in March 2016. There is no confirmation that Levinson sold this car to Wayne Carini, who had restored it.
From Mystery Auto Foto #47 Solved: Definitely a 1949 Buick Roadmaster that Starred in the Film Rain Man
i think the 49 Buick is a masterpiece of design,
From Mystery Auto Foto #47 Solved: Definitely a 1949 Buick Roadmaster that Starred in the Film Rain Man
I sure hope I can make it tonight. If my friend feels up to driving me there.
From The Incredible Vanderbilt Cup Races on Long Island: The Role of Hicksville Updated: 11/22/16
From Susan Blackwell:
Easy one it is Wayne Carini, 1949 Buick Road master , from the movie “Rainman”
Dave and I had seen it at Lime Rock in September
From Mystery Auto Foto #47 Solved: Definitely a 1949 Buick Roadmaster that Starred in the Film Rain Man
From Simon Favre:
The car is a 1949 Buick Roadmaster with the straight eight 320 CID engine.
The car is famous because it appeared in the movie “Rain Man” with Tom Cruise.
The car was sold at auction in December 2012 for $170,500 to “an anonymous collector.” NASCAR racer Ryan Newman owns one of the cars from the movie, but it is now green.
From Mystery Auto Foto #47 Solved: Definitely a 1949 Buick Roadmaster that Starred in the Film Rain Man
Back when the Clearview was completed, the plan was to continue it further south. Had that been done my aunt and uncle’s house on 212th St. would have been part of eminant domain
From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure I: Clearview Expressway-Queens
Nice job Dave. Growing up in Queens Village in the 60’s meant many bike trips to Alley Pond, Cunningham, and Pe Pond. We rode our bikes on what we called “The Old Motor Parkway” many times from Winchester Blvd. finding our way to Flushing Meadow Park, the Worlds Fair Grounds. Back then we could faintly see the white centerline on the road. Glad it’s still there. Thanks for making the trip especially with your son.
From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure I: Clearview Expressway-Queens
Paul DiNatale - It sounds like you biked all the way to the Great Neck school without ever leaving the parkway. If this is true, do you or friends have any pictures doing these trips? Those would really be neat to see!
From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure I: Clearview Expressway-Queens
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